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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 29, 2022 9:01:43 GMT -5
Reading Goals: After a couple of years reading a lot of Marvel Westerns, I'd like to find another genre I haven't sampled in depth, something I can access online. I'm leaning towards jungle comics. I'd also like to tackle reading complete runs of a few Golden Age features; I've made a good start on The Lost World (from PLANET COMICS) and Hour-Man (from ADVENTURE COMICS), and I certainly want to complete those. (I was toying with an in-depth thread on Hour-Man, something like chadwilliam's Spectre thread, but I don't know if anyone would really stick around for it.) Jack Cole's Midnight is one I'm interested in, The Heap is another. Wait, was Hourman this year??? I'd have sworn I did that in 2021, it feels like so long ago, but no, I covered almost everything in excruciating detail in the past 12 months! And I got a good start on my Jungle Gems or Jungle Junk sampling thread--limiting myself to one issue of each jungle comic I could identify has proven to be a wise choice; I think I can bring it to a close in the next few months. Review Goals: I plan to finish my look at Marvel's 2nd tier Western heroes, since I've only got a few features left to spotlight: Black Rider, Wyatt Earp, and the original Rawhide and Two-Gun Kids. My instincts for completionism may compel me to spend at least a little effort on an overview of Marvel's Big Four Western features, Rawhide, Colt, Two-Gun, and Ghost Rider, but they got a lot of attention in my Western Team-Up thread. I added a few more entries to that thread. The Marvel Westerns are a good change of pace now and then. Who's left now? Wyatt Earp, Rawhide & Two-Gun Version I, a pair of Annies, Arrowhead and Billy Buckskin, maybe a few others...should be able to finish that one off, too... Non-comics Goals: Another read-through of Mark Z. Danielewski's The Familiar Volumes 1-5, continuing my youtube synthesizer tutorials, getting the house in shape and sold so we can move into someplace new, refining my geoguessr skills, and writing some music! Got the house painted, but not sold. I only got around to The Familiar re-read this month and I'm some 400 pages into Volume 1 and still loving it. It's one of the most amazing writing accomplishments I've ever experienced; Danielewski pulls off an astounding effect I've never seen anyone do: this series is partly about subtle shifts in reality, as if the Mandela effect were really happening every so often. That's an oversimplification, and it's not expressed in such crude and direct fashion, that's just my shorthand way of explaining the small but intentional inconsistencies that develop between volumes. What's amazing is that when I re-read the book, I encounter parts of the story I don't remember happening at all in my previous readings, making it seem as if the books themselves have changed while they were on my bookshelves! My youtube synth tutorials have stalled, since I found someone who was doing what I planned but doing it better than I could, so I've got a new synth tutorial idea brewing, focused on microtonal music.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 28, 2022 18:52:46 GMT -5
Just wanted to say I miss Bruce "brutalis" Hinds. Cutter and LeetahA 40 year love story of 2 people from different worlds united together raising their children, raising their tribes and uniting new tribes, trolls and humans in changing the world they live in. From a rocky start this desert heale is attracted to this wild wolf rider from the forest but Rayek has claims of his own towards Leetah. Eventually after various fights between the two warriors Recognition comes through for Leetah choosing Cutter. From there the two grow stronger together, their bonds uniting their love. Compelling reading!
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 28, 2022 11:08:03 GMT -5
Hey, gang, don't miss the secret crossover with this thread going on over in the Classic Cover Contest Hall of Fame thread .
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 28, 2022 7:22:31 GMT -5
Some artistic conventions are so common that we process their meaning immediately, without questioning or taking particular notice of the convention itself. Consider ghosts, phantoms, and spectres, the subject of this week’s cover contest, and one which, very surprisingly, doesn’t appear to have ever been used here. Why do we recognize that an all-white (or mostly white) figure is a ghost? This week's challenge is to post a cover showing a white figure meant to be perceived as a ghost, a phantom, a spectre, any sort of alabaster apparition. It doesn’t matter if the story inside reveals that it’s really the old man operating the amusement park who would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those nosy kids—as long as the reader is supposed to look at the cover and think “That’s a ghost!”, it’s a valid entry! All-white figures, sheet-clad figures or merely white- skinned figures, as long as that effect is intended to suggest a visitor from beyond the mortal pale or some other ethereal entity! The Rules: - Post one, and only one, classic cover that fits the theme of the contest. - Cover must be from a published comic book or collected volume published before January 2013. - Please include the title and the issue number of the comic in bold in case some posters cannot see your image. - Covers must be posted before voting begins. - Voting takes place on Tuesday, January 03, beginning at 12:01am PST and ending at 11:59pm PST. - Vote by posting the name of the poster whose cover best fits the theme or that you simply like the most in bold. - The winner of the contest is the entrant with the most votes after the voting period ends. - The winner chooses the theme for the next week's contest. - If you don't think the cover fits the theme, don't vote for it; please don't post disparaging remarks about it. - If a cover is more recent than the classic time frame (currently Jan. 2013), kindly point it out to the poster, who may then choose an alternate before voting begins. Your eerie example comes, as you might have anticipated, in response to this: mwgallaher(Whoever wins this week should make next week’s topics chandeliers or hacksaws or opera houses so that we can see this masterpiece again.) Yes, it’s Phantom Stranger #23 by Jim Aparo:
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 28, 2022 6:53:09 GMT -5
And I tip my topper to the troops! Thanks for the votes in another round of exceptionally elegant offerings!
A new contest shall be up as soon as I finish consulting the topic list.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 27, 2022 21:29:08 GMT -5
Good points, tarkintino . For a "relevant" comic, pro-environmentalism is playing it safe, since that was the one area of progressivism that the conservative establishment was willing to tolerate and even encourage in the youth of the 70's. (Today, even that has become a stark line dividing the culture, with some subsets in America not revelling in conspicuous, audacious acts of intentional pollution. Just last week, I witnessed for the first time some [expletives deleted] engaging in the repugnant act of "rolling coal".) In comparison, Shanna's feminist leanings were understated and rendered mostly irrelevant by her transplanting herself to the jungle. But yeah, her origin is hard to swallow, and it's surprising that even then Marvel didn't realize the unseemliness of creating a new white jungle goddess type in the Sheena mold (right down to coming as close as possible to swiping the character name!) in 1972. Jumping from a training montage to being a jungle heroine revered by the natives? Talk about your "white privilege" in action! I do want to acknowledge my appreciation for Seuling introducing Jakuna Singh, a Sikh agent of SHIELD, in issue 2. That was a fresh example of diversity, but Singh got killed off after just a few appearances.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 27, 2022 9:49:09 GMT -5
It should get tiresome, but I was always happy to let a Flash story expend a panel to show us this:
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 26, 2022 17:47:40 GMT -5
I've never read the Shanna story in full but I do think Tuska's art was not a good fit for either the character or the jungle setting. Perhaps this is largely a matter of personal taste, but for me his Shanna has no visual charisma - in contrast to, for example, Steranko's as seen on the cover - and doesn't look convincing in the training or fighting scenes. Actually, looking at the samples again, there probably isn't enough seen here to judge the jungle backgrounds fairly so maybe I spoke too soon in regard to that aspect. But I would love to have seen someone like Marie and/or John Severin or Russ Heath or Gray Morrow on a series like this. That's a good way to express it, berkley . All your proposed artists could have brought the verve and authenticity and imagination these pages needed to elevate them, but SHANNA got Tuska and Andru, both good artists but neither of whom were well suited for this kind of material.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 26, 2022 14:02:45 GMT -5
SHANNA THE SHE-DEVIL #1 was cover-dated December, 1972. Marvel brought this to the stands as a part of a short-lived attempt to publish comics with more appeal to female readers. Here’s how it was explained in the Bullpen Bulletins: In the Bullpen Bulletins the following month, it’s noted that “writer Carol (sic) Seuling and artist George Tuska were helped out at the last minute by a bit of additional dialogue from the nifty new ballpoint pen of Steve Gerber—a name we predict you’ll be seeing a lot more of, in the near future! Steve’s an old confidant and correspondent of Roy’s, whom he brought east to help himself and Steve Englehart with the editorial efforts on our ever-expanding comix line.” SHANNA initially seems like an odd choice for a “girl’s line”, since jungle girl comics, I presume, had a track record of appealing more to boys. The Cat could have been intended as Marvel’s answer to Wonder Woman, and Linda Carter, the night nurse, had potential appeal in a market that sill supported nurse books, romance books, and gothic books on the paperback rack. SHANNA did have a 70’s “women’s lib” vibe and an ecological perspective that lent it a more contemporary feel than the classic jungle girl books, though. The debut story, “Shanna the She-Devil”, is penciled by George Tuska and inked by Vince Colletta. It opens with Shanna, assisted by her leopards Biri (a black panther) and Ina (a spotted leopard) intervening before “Ivory Dan” Drake can slaughter an African elephant in an illegal poaching expedition on a protected game reserve. Shanna orders Drake and his men off the grounds, but Ivory Dan intends to defy her commands by moving to a different hunting location. His hired native man, Kula, refuses to assist him: “I will not hunt with you! You are evil! And to evil men, Shanna brings death!” Drake responds poorly, and beats Kula, who is left seeking revenge for the humiliation. Kula reports his former employer’s plan to Shanna, who heads off to stop the poachers, sending Kula to summon the game warden. Shanna tracks down the sexist pigs and begins upsetting their plans, “asserting her femininity until she gets a cowardly rifle butt to the skull: The sight of the gun triggers a flashback in Shanna’s concussed noggin. We learn that she is Dr. Shanna O’Harra, a well-to-do Manhattanite veterinarian serving as environmental specialist for the Municipal Zoo. When the zoo’s big cats are slaughtered, Shanna rescues the sole survivor, a leopard named Julani, who Shanna had hand-raised. A panicked guard finishes the slaughter, thinking the leopard was a danger to Dr. O’Hara. We get another sub-flashback to her childhood, when she tried to prevent her own father from shooting a leopard in Africa, then return to her origin. Not only have zoo animals been under attack across the country, and Americans have been increasingly cruel to animals. Now another sub-flashback shows that the “leopard” Shanna’s dad was firing on was actually his wife, Shanna’s mom! Shanna takes Julani’s cubs, who had been safe in the hospital at the time of the slaughter, and makes plans to leave the “civilized” world behind. Training montage time: Shanna takes a new job opportunity to relocate the cubs (Ina and Biri, as I’m sure you’ve guessed) to the Dahomey Reserve in Africa. She dons Julani’s pelt in order to better bond with the growing cubs and becomes a jungle girl in the classic mold… …At which point we catch back up with her as she recovers consciousness, bound and helpless before Drake and his men Vole and Zarg: Zarg is a gargantuan brute, but Shanna’s training allows her to defeat the big galoot. She tries to stop Ivory Dan from shooting the elephants, but he fires before she can do so, starting an elephant stampede that leads to Dan’s demise: In the closing panels, we get a quick introduction to the game preserve’s warden, Patrick, evidently an Irishman, and Gerber and Seuling establish that Patrick has been wooing our jungle queen with frequent but refused proposals. SHANNA’s main flaws are its awkwardness, its overblown messaging, and its paucity of jungle atmosphere. The awkwardness shows in the pieced-out flashback to her childhood, which are nested at two different levels of the story (part in the “now” storyline, part within a different flashback. The training scene is necessary to set her up as being capable of jungle survival, but it comes unexpectedly, and is unconvincing. This awkwardness may be due to Carole Seuling’s rookie status as a comics writer, and may be why Gerber was recruited to assist. Seuling only has a few credits other than this one. Her husband was well-know retailer Phil Seuling, and that probably played some part in her getting this gig. The messaging is endemic of the times, and I admit I probably would have been receptive to it if I’d bought this off the stands. It does transform the tone to make this jungle queen an activist, feminist environmentalist, and it’s a nice touch to give her a Ph.D. and a notable career. The final-page insertion of a romantic interest blunts the effect, though. I can’t pinpoint the reason for the lack of jungle atmosphere, though. George Tuska draws decent animals, he draws jungle environments, and Vince Colletta is at least compatible, as he usually was, with Tuska’s work, and I can’t blame things on any obvious shortcuts on Colletta’s part. It may just be the “Marvelizing” of the scripting that saps this book of the immersive feel of a good jungle comic. For all its flaws, though, the book reads well enough, and if it doesn’t ascend to any heights, it’s not at the Jungle Junk level. At the least, the book seemed to have an intent behind it, rather than just being another adventure book to flood the stands with. I liked Marvel’s efforts at jumping on the “relevance” trend, and its experiments outside the conventional superhero stuff with these female characters, more minority leads, and expanding new material in the Western, horror, and war genres. But I admit to preferring THE CAT and, particularly, NIGHT NURSE to SHANNA.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 25, 2022 16:16:47 GMT -5
Great, now we've got the stovepipe covered! Thanks, Rob!
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 24, 2022 8:07:47 GMT -5
1. The Suicide Squad
DC and Marvel had tried to use some of their popular, colorful, well-established villains as leads—Joker, Dr. Doom. They’d tried to make teams of them into successful series—Super-Villain Team-Up, Secret Society of Super-Villains. It took John Ostrander to crack the code and make an ongoing work. While the core concept is not completely novel—it is, after all, a super-hero version of the Dirty Dozen—once you have that premise, so many problems associated with making a super-villain book work resolve themselves and open up fascinating new avenues. Coercion, blackmail, bribery, whatever it takes to force a super-villain to do (ostensibly) the right thing, on threat of the ultimate punishment! And for once, the deep library of expendables made paying off on that threat feasible! I expect we’ll see both the Suicide Squad and the Thunderbolts hit some number one slots today (foxley has already made the same choice!). I could certainly have included the T-Bolts in my top tier, but I left those praises to others. But even knowing others would offer up the Squad, I loved this series too much not to give it my top ranking. Comparing it to the Thunderbolts, not to denigrate Kurt Busiek’s take but to spotlight some of the aspects that make Suicide Squad appeal to me: Suicide Squad had better potential for longevity, since Ostrander could rotate the core cast in and out as need be, while Thunderbolts couldn’t pull their gimmick off with an endless supply of new members. Thunderbolts could really head only toward the redemption or reversion of their roster, the Squad could become—and did become—a fixture of the DC superhero universe. The Suicide Squad could use the costumes, characters, codenames of the villains we’d come to know, where T-Bolts relied on their new personas. Even after the jig was up, and the heroic community knew what was going on at Belle Reve, the Squad could continue. The Squad had a conceptual viability apart from the superhero community, as demonstrated by two films that didn’t much rely on establishing the villains in context with the heroes. Yes, Marvel’s going to bring Thunderbolts to the screen, but they won’t be able to stay true to its powerful original premise, and will be relying mostly on previously established villains. And what a name! Plucking a memorable moniker Robert Kanigher gave to a nonpowered team that bombed out of Brave & Bold as well as to the G.I.’s unfortunate enough to be recruited to fight the War That Time Forgot, Ostrander found exactly the premise for a team called the “suicide squad”, a team where the danger was real, the worst could and did happen! Thunderbolts was, intentionally, a generic enough team name that didn’t give away its critical secret. And sure, depending on your tastes, those might have been to the advantage or disadvantage of either team, and since they were both executed well, Ostrander and Busiek both capitalized on those and other differences between their approaches to create outstanding series. But the Suicide Squad, with their legacy connection to one of the most obscure of DC’s Silver Age teams, they’ve got my undying affection. They made Captain Boomerang into an endearing, rich character, established Deadshot as an unforgettable personality, brought the obscure Enchantress from Forgotten Villain to big-screen menace, elevated the Bronze Tiger from abandoned Kung Fu Fighter supporting cast member to prominence, and brought a depth and humanity to a large cast, including villains, support personnel, and Amanda Waller, a powerhouse of a character unlike anyone we’d ever seen in comics. I don’t think you can do a super-villain team any better than this.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 23, 2022 13:09:38 GMT -5
2. The Crime Syndicate of America | It's my turn to pay tribute to the JLA's evil doppelgangers of Earth-3! I would have been introduced to this gang in 1974, when JLA #114, a Super-Spectacular 100-pager, reprinted JLA #29-30, in which the CSA takes on, in turn, both the JSA and then the JLA! And right there is one of the things I enjoyed about this bunch: they didn't have some absurd scheme to take over the world--they had already (basically) achieved that!!!
Nope, they were motivated by the perverse instinct intrinsic to their universe to be bad, something that Gardner Fox doesn't explicitly say, but Fox's explanation--that since Earth-3 inverts most Earth-1 events, so there are no super-heroes, only super-villains--doesn't exactly follow, since there should then be heroic counterparts to, say, the Joker and Captain Cold.
I'm a sucker for a good "evil twin" story, so I appreciated that the CSA had specific Earth-1 counterparts (unlike the JLA and JSA, which didn't match up one-to-one). The fact that the CSA got pretty far in defeating both teams, sequentially, is testimony to how unbridled use of these top-level superpowers would give them a significant advantage over their principled counterparts.
I was disappointed to see the team and their Earth annihilated in COIE #1, but I appreciated them getting such prominent demises, and the suggestion that as the only superpowered beings of their world, they would feel responsible to attempt to save it. DC promised multiple one-shot Specials to support CRISIS, but those plans petered out, leaving only the tangentially related LOSERS Special. They missed the boat in not producing a CSA Special--I'd have loved reading their mostly-undocumented origins and seeing their final days! |
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 22, 2022 23:23:38 GMT -5
This climactic scene from NEW GODS #5: In the years since, we've seen plenty of instances where the creators try to depict a hero letting his savage side out, but I've never seen it done as effectively as Kirby did it here. In the first few issues, we were told that Orion was repressing a brutal nature, but the readers were utterly unprepared for this nearly sadistic celebration. Snuffing out someone's Mother Box, that artificially intelligent companion of the New Gods, then laughing uncontrollably, taunting the hideous Slig with the destruction of the one "being" that loved him? Gut-wrenchingly brutal stuff...and this guy's the hero of the book?! This is a page I would shove under the noses of people who say Kirby couldn't write, or that the Fourth World would have been so much better if someone else had scripted it. I can just imagine how Stan Lee would have watered this page down to maintain Orion's "heroic" stature.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 22, 2022 7:44:46 GMT -5
3. The Brotherhood of EvilSo I asked myself, out of all the villain teams you love, which ones would you really want to read about in their own comic, just following them around doing their villain thing, hanging out in whatever they do in their daily lives? The Brotherhood of Evil, that's who! They were already a lock on my list, but that realization rocketed them high up the rankings. M. Mallah and The Brain, Madame Rouge, and anyone else they recruited, that imaginary series would be right up my alley. I loved the Doom Patrol from my first exposure in an early 70's reprint, and I eagerly snapped up every other reprint that hit the stands. A 6th-grade classmate brought a copy of #121, the final conflict between the Brotherhood and the Doom Patrol, but I wasn't able to get much more than a tantalizing glimpse and the unbelievable assurance that yes, the DP did in fact die in this issue! Oh, the cruelty stays with me to this day... One of the really cool things about the Brotherhood is how European they felt. I see these guys in a high budget Italian crime movie from the 60's, yachting in Monaco, plotting in the Alps, holding the Eiffel Tower for ransom... I'm certain a lot of that vibe came from the participation of Italian artist Bruno Premiani, whose unique style was perfect for the DP and for the Brotherhood.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 21, 2022 11:15:38 GMT -5
I find trademarks to be an interesting subject. I've long understood that a comics company can lose a trademark if they don't use it, hence different DAREDEVIL and CAPTAIN MARVEL comics from different publishers jumping on abandoned trademarks. But if you look at the registry of trademarks, it's not just the phrase but the logo design itself covered by trademark protection. In comics, there are several instances where a defunct trademark title was appropriated, but it's almost unheard of, so far as I've seen, for a publisher to pick up another publisher's trademark and logo design, except when a license changes hands or a title is sold off to a different company. So I was surprised to see that Dynamite Entertainment would not just scoop up Marvel's unused "Savage Tales" as a title, but also swipe its original logo design: Yes, there are some slight modifications, but the Dynamite logo uses an almost identical pattern of raggedness on the edges of the letters. That's taking things to a remarkably detailed level of swiping!
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