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Post by Pat T on Jan 17, 2018 0:53:20 GMT -5
You'll find examples of both. There are "Superman got old" stories like Kingdom Come published the same year as "Superman is still young" stories. It's neither necessary nor possible to fit all of the stories into a single continuity without contradiction. It's collaborative fiction with hundreds (thousands?) of authors choosing and rejecting story elements from a buffet of concepts, according to the needs of the moment. Just keep reading, and you will figure out how it all works. If you are new to comics, then get recommendations as to which old stories are worth reading, and which are not worth your time. I used to feel this way too, there is a large part of me that wants all that continuity and realism, "this happened in Cap 113 and I want it to still be true" kind of rubbish. However when I think of reading comics as a kid, there were plenty of 2nd or 3rd part stories I picked up. All it ever did was make me determined to get the earlier books. I "got" the story, I enjoyed what was in front of me, I moved on. Simple. Look at cartoons, I was watching Brave and Bold this morning. Bats gets to play with everyone in that show. So there is an episode with Kamandi. Kids dont go...duh who is this guy and which earth is he from and is that an alternate future story deriving from.... No,they go...hey cool story with the talking lions and Gorillas. They get the cool stuff and care less about all the mumbo-jumbo-continuity-crap. Maybe we should too, like a story arc for what it is and not sweat the How-to-tie-it-all-together rubbish im not new to comics, not counting kids comics, been reading for years now Just guess im used to liner format. I only read 2000 AD, they seem more precious (not sure if correct word) with characters so less chance the history is messed around. For each year that passes, in general the characters age a year. or at least the timeline is consistant and new arcs set after the last ones. The stories have set length, generally always finish the same time with shorter stories that last just that Prog to fill if something finishes earlier then the others. Then when one set of characters story arcs end, new ones begin with new set from the 2000 AD world. This is kept track of too in the intro at start of the comic, so you know how many Progs are left in the current stories and what is coming next. There are also often ‘jumping on Progs’ so new readers can pick it up and not be lost in the middle of anything. Continuity is important I think. I realise some contradiction would happen, has happen in one my fav 2000 AD character stories (Bad Company) where lot meant to have died but brought back for a reboot. Just feel to constantly use it to alter and change things seems like lazy writing. But Marvel/DC has twice the history, I guess maybe it inevitable to have so many different timelines and universes Anyway, maybe I was an odd child, I very much care about mumbo-jumbo-continuity-crap and noticed when someone was in my cartoon that shouldn’t be lol But what gives one generation of reader the right to enjoy the best version of a character during the character's prime over somebody who happens to be born later? The Spider-Man I like is the same guy a brand new reader can read about. He's the one that became the icon. Why should a new reader be forced to see him as an old man or wait for a new one?
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Post by Pat T on Nov 7, 2017 10:09:39 GMT -5
It will be a big title. DC wouldn't bring him over to write secondary characters. He'll probably get 2 or 3 books.
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Post by Pat T on Nov 3, 2017 23:12:43 GMT -5
What is the simplest way to post pictures? I have tons of purchases to share, but I can't figure out how on my own. Keep in mind I'm not the best operator, so layman's terms would be great. I use Imgur. You can download pictures from your computer to the website and then cop and paste the images on the reply. Thank you. I'll try it.
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Post by Pat T on Nov 3, 2017 21:33:38 GMT -5
I ordered Detective Comics #387 from eBay yesterday. When I get it, I'll have every issue of Detective Comics from #366 to the present. If you count the New 52 and Rebirth (which just reached #966), I'll have 600 consecutive issues of Detective Comics! I've been working on Detective & Batman pretty heavily lately. I like that you can get Silver Age Detective issues in good shape for relatively cheap. Batman not so much, though. My collection isn't quite as complete as yours, but between the two original titles I own over 1,000 books. I'm planning on going as close to the beginning as I can for the Batman and Superman books, so I have a project to work on until I die. There is a slim chance that in my later years I might be able to get 1 or 2 of the Grails, but that is many years away. Amazing Fantasy 15 is the only Grail book I'm determined to acquire in the immediate future. The others are mostly pipe dreams.
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Post by Pat T on Nov 3, 2017 21:04:53 GMT -5
What is the simplest way to post pictures? I have tons of purchases to share, but I can't figure out how on my own. Keep in mind I'm not the best operator, so layman's terms would be great.
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Post by Pat T on Oct 29, 2017 8:39:49 GMT -5
Only to you. Most didn't find it as egregious a failure as you did. (and some of those adaptations you mentioned weren't that good). Most of us read it for what it was and moved on to his new work. It in no way defined his second act at Marvel. "Only to you" Hardly. I get your bias, considering your username, but I'm talking about history, not rewriting it to defend someone to the end because he is one of your favorites. I'm discussing the opinion of many fans of that period. They were certainly disappointed by his inferior adaptation, or (to be truthful) bastardization of 2001, which was a major project for Marvel to obtain and promote. This cannot be shoved in a corner as part of his second act at Marvel. Regarding the other adaptations you're trying to downgrade, well, I would bet real money that next to no one would say the work of Al Williamson, Alberto Giolitti and George Perez, et al "weren't that good" (whether the readers appreciated the film source or not), nor have I ever heard or read much criticism of their work on the film projects. Kirby's monumental failure on 2001 does not pull everyone else down with him in the category of film adaptations. I don't understand what your game is here. I don't hold Kirby in as high esteem as most comic fans do, but I can appreciate their feelings about his work. This is clearly a thread started by a passionate fan to discuss a specific period in Jack Kirby's career with people who share an affection for this era. More than one poster has hinted that this might not be the place for you to insult the man's work. It's obvious to me that it's a sensitive subject to these people, and by continually trying to justify all your negativity, you're just pissing them off even more. We all get it. You don't think much of this part of his legacy. Leave the people who do like it alone. You aren't making friends by antagonizing people.
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Post by Pat T on Oct 27, 2017 2:02:22 GMT -5
Avengers 167-168, 170-177.
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Post by Pat T on Oct 26, 2017 1:04:18 GMT -5
I have that entire Black Panther series and most of Eternals, but I've never quite gotten the urge to read them. Seeing how bizarre both stories look, I'm kind of intrigued now. I read his Captain America when it was coming out, and I have to admit, I thought it was pretty bad back then. But revisiting those books in the last few years, I appreciated them more. Still, I feel like he was maybe so determined to do things his own way that he hurt the stories by trying to be so different than what people expected. I'll probably read BP first, because it looks like it's action packed at least. Does it seem to anybody that he went out on his own tangents in the 1970's Marvel stuff as an act of spite? I have the impression that Jack Kirby was angry at the world and carried a chip on his shoulder because he felt mistreated, and just wonder why this stuff doesn't compare to his great work before he left Marvel the first time. In my opinion, of course.
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Post by Pat T on Oct 25, 2017 23:49:17 GMT -5
I also like it when I see books selling for $20, $30, $40 but I manage to find it for $5. Makes me happy I found a deal Well, I do too. Most of the books on my want list now aren't the kind found in dollar bins, although that's probably where most of my collection came from. It's becoming difficult for me to find books to buy in those places (unless I want to start collecting more titles than I already do) because I have most of them now. I have to shop around for deals, and I am always able to find something I need at a good price. I try to get books that have nice eye appeal but are lower to mid grade, especially if they look like pressing will correct some of the flaws, so I'm always searching for something. It's a great satisfaction when I find the right deal, just like it is when completing a long-running title.
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Post by Pat T on Oct 24, 2017 22:11:47 GMT -5
Oh, man...I saw someone asking for $374 for a copy of Avengers #183. That's crazy. Nothing of significance with the issue. I know because I bought my beat up copy for $2. I don't care if that book is tip top, no flipping way that I'd ever spend that much on a comic book. I think the most that I've ever spent on a comic book was Avengers 150 in the late 80's. I think I paid $3.50 for it. Other than that, most comics I buy are $2 or less. I love the low grade, beat up books. Glad that I'm a frugal guy and not moronic enough to pay that much for a comic book. You're calling a bunch of people on this site morons. Some of us have enough money left every month to do whatever we want with it, and are passionate about our hobby. You're not frugal. You're cheap and scared to spend your money, but you're no wiser than anybody else here.
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Post by Pat T on Oct 23, 2017 17:41:11 GMT -5
Ive been reading some of the original Amazing Sider Man stuff. first appearance of Green Goblin was ok but kind of dull. I also hated reading the first Kraven appearance. Man that was slow to read and go through. Scorpion was pretty good. Hope the other issues get better before I get up to issues 121 and 122 I think you'll notice a big difference when John Romita takes over the art in issue 39. I know some people love Ditko's art in the early Spideys, but it's always been a distraction to me. I started reading ASM in the 130's, and Marvel Tales was reprinting stories in the 60's at that time. Those stories seemed just as modern to me as the brand new books I was buying. But the first Treasury Edition I bought was where I saw the early issues, and I had difficulty getting in to them. I really only like the covers of those first 38 issues, and it is a chore to read some of them. Hang in there. It gets much better, and stays good.
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Post by Pat T on Oct 11, 2017 22:15:56 GMT -5
It sounds like the criteria being used is whether or not DC was putting out too many of those awful mainstream books instead of the "groundbreaking" ones that only smart people who claim to understand art truly enjoy, like fans of indie bands until they have a hit. Or maybe that's my imagination. Just sounds pompous to me.
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Post by Pat T on Oct 11, 2017 21:46:23 GMT -5
I was first drawn to Spider-Man from reruns of the 60's cartoon when cable tv was new. The costume was (and is) so perfect and different from the only other superheroes I knew of back then, the Super Friends. To me, Superman and Batman seemed boring in comparison. I started reading ASM right after Harry became the Green Goblin for the first time, so I was right in the middle of Peter trying to get over Gwen and developing feelings for Mary Jane, when the Gwen clone showed up and blew everything up for Peter. At the same time, I was able to read reprints in Marvel Tales that featured Gwen while she was alive, so I was able to see what Peter had lost first-hand and sympathize with him. Considering I was 9-10 years old, the writing felt like I was reading something more "adult" than a comic book, and I liked that the series pretty much always dealt with themes other than Spidey beating up bank robbers all the time. I've always liked how Peter has used humor (although some writers were much better at it than others) particularly when it was self-aware. See, in my opinion, "Parker Luck" isn't what always kept Peter from achieving his potential; from the time he made the wrong choice with Uncle Ben's killer, he feels a responsibility above all else to do whatever he can in a situation,repercussions be damned. It's cost him in every way imaginable, and the times he has shirked his responsibility, it has always come back to bite him. Yet he soldiers on with whatever life throws at him and does what he can. I have to admit it's been a long time since I've seen him portrayed like this, but it's the core of the character. It's difficult to put into words what I'm trying to say, so I hope what I wrote makes sense.
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Post by Pat T on Oct 7, 2017 20:42:14 GMT -5
Uncanny X-Men 94-544 & Annuals Giant Size 1 & 2 X-Men/New X-Men/X-Men Legacy 1-275 & Annuals Full runs of later volumes of each title And about a longbox of minis & one-shots
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Post by Pat T on Sept 5, 2017 18:37:02 GMT -5
I store my books so that they will stay in the best condition possible, but that's purely so that I can enjoy them for a long time, and within reason. I don't use expensive bags and boards, I don't do CGC, and I don't handle my books as if they were priceless treasures. But then again, most of my books are inexpensive and easily replaceable. I might think differently if I had Golden Age back issues that were very valuable. I sometimes think we might be overthinking the storage thing. I remember reading somewhere that one of the higher graded copies of Action Comics #1 that sold recently was found in someone's attic, pressed between a bunch of other books, not bagged and boarded or treated any differently than any other book or magazine. The fact that it was not handled over the years and kept in an environment that was dark and of relatively constant temperature and humidity probably helped, but still, pretty amazing considering the lengths the average collector goes through. It's pure luck the book survived like that. Imagine how many times over the years somebody could have ruined the book while going through stuff up there. A mylar bag with backing board is plenty of protection for my expensive books. I don't wear gloves like some people I've seen handling them either.
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