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Post by zaku on Jan 6, 2023 15:04:54 GMT -5
So Selina Kyle both is and is not a sex worker? A Heisenberg's sex worker ^_^
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Post by zaku on Jan 6, 2023 8:31:32 GMT -5
I googled it and it seems that after Dark Nights: Metal everything is canon. Like, everything. Even this one
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Post by zaku on Jan 6, 2023 7:39:23 GMT -5
Well it didn't last right? Or yes? I've no idea what is still canon nowadays ^^;; It did and it didn't. Ultimately, I've argued that Year One served as more of an inspiration and less of a definitive "this is what happened and this is who Batman is," for the Post-Crisis Bataman francise, but I'll also concede that the Post-Crisis Batman office is an ugly mess of contradictions that can never be totally straightened out. Fortunately, for the purposes of looking at the Post-Crisis Batman Family, the contradictions are less plentiful and less problematic. Also, keep in mind, that the DC Universe has since been rebooted again (a soft reboot in 1994 and again in 2005, and a hard reboot in 2011), so I have no idea what is canon nowadays either! I googled it and it seems that after Dark Nights: Metal everything is canon. Like, everything. By the way, while googling I found this article which put a positive spin about "Catwoman-as-a-prostitute". While I find it relevant only to the United States (it is one of the few countries in the world where sex workers are technically criminals, along with Sharia-enforced countries), I find some of the reasoning expressed in it interesting. CATWOMAN AND THE CASE FOR DECRIMINALIZATION OF SEX WORK
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Post by zaku on Jan 6, 2023 5:04:44 GMT -5
I seriously hated Miller's take on Catwoman/Selina, both in Dark Knight and Year One. The man has a serious fixation with prostitution. Well it didn't last right? Or yes? I've no idea what is still canon nowadays ^^;;
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Post by zaku on Jan 5, 2023 14:57:57 GMT -5
Just for the sake of curiosity I read a very detailed synopsis of Untold Legends Of Batman and from what I can understand: a) Robin plays a substantial role in the story. b) There is the quite comprehensive summary of his life until his departure for university (the story is from 1980) but no mention of the Titans, as far as I can gather. I don't know if it's of any use.
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Post by zaku on Jan 2, 2023 12:50:17 GMT -5
Did Peter Parker ever tell Aunt May the truth about the burglar? (I’m thinking how he did in the movies, Spider-Man 2 I think) I believe when Aunt May found his secret identity (but it was retconnected so many times that I no idea it is still valid).
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Post by zaku on Jan 1, 2023 19:34:41 GMT -5
Pre-Crisis Superman was canonically 29 years old. It's hard to imagine him nearly the same age as the Teen Titans. Post-Crisis Superman ages a week for every month in our world, so that might help a little more! To make any sense, Superman's age right before Crisis should have been somewhere between 35 and 40. For example, when he (and he is already an established reporter for at least a few years) finds Supergirl she's about 15 and right before Crisis she's at least 22-24. But I guess DC didn't want to show Superman as a middle-aged bachelor with no romantic relationship of any kind, so "29" was the age limit not to be considered an invert or any other non-pc word that it was used at the time for anyone other than a married heterosexual male with 2.4 children
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Post by zaku on Jan 1, 2023 9:18:16 GMT -5
IMO, by the time they dropped the 'Teen' in the name (the new book was just 'New Titans') they were all in their mid-20s. I might even argue late twenties. Pre-Crisis Superman was canonically 29 years old. It's hard to imagine him nearly the same age as the Teen Titans.
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Post by zaku on Jan 1, 2023 5:11:34 GMT -5
Yeah, it makes sense. I don't know if it's something which happened in the pre-Crisis era too, but often during post-Crisis people told Batman that putting kids in danger by putting them in a colorful costume and making them fight crazy killers was reckless. Of course he couldn't tell the truth ("In the 1930s this was better than the other alternatives") so these conversations always ended in an awkward silence from the Caped Crusader. I don't think that's required at all.... he could be Robin at 11 and start the Titans at 15 or 16. The Wolfman/Perez Titans weren't 'teens' anymore , that's just for the marketing. I know, it says, but I don't believe it. IMO, by the time they dropped the 'Teen' in the name (the new book was just 'New Titans') they were all in their mid-20s. Making sense of the Pre-Crisis Earth-1's timeline is simply madness, but according this hypothesis, what was Dick's Age when Batman and Superman met for the first time?
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Post by zaku on Jan 1, 2023 5:08:21 GMT -5
Yep! Incidentally, googling Robin's age pre-Crisis, I saw that he has a fairly large role in Untold Legends of The Batman. Did you review it and I missed it? It's a favorite storyline of mine, but I remember it in terms of what it did for Batman. I don't recall it having much importance for Robin (unless you mean Bruce being the first Robin, which had been previously established). Did I miss something? I didn't actually read the story so perhaps I'm wrong, but while I was googling about Dick's age when he had debuted as Robin, I found this article by Brian Cronin: www.cbr.com/did-batman-seriously-have-an-8-year-old-crime-fighting-partner/It gave me the impression that the Boy Wonder had a substantial role in the story, but, as I said, perhaps I'm wrong :-)
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Post by zaku on Dec 31, 2022 10:02:34 GMT -5
Of course he couldn't tell the truth ("In the 1930s this was better than the other alternatives") so these conversations always ended in an awkward silence from the Caped Crusader. This was the same logic that governed the Jason Todd retcon. An(other) acrobat kid with dead parents could end up okay going through the foster system of the 1980s, but a kid boosting tires in crime alley was headed for serious danger without a Batman to guide him. Then they gave us Tim Drake, a totally well-adjusted kid with two living and affluent parents. It made no sense, so they had to get conveniently killed (or nearly killed) in order to somehow justify Tim's becoming Robin, and that STILL didn't really explain why it was a good idea for Tim to become Robin. Yep! Incidentally, googling Robin's age pre-Crisis, I saw that he has a fairly large role in Untold Legends of The Batman. Did you review it and I missed it?
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Post by zaku on Dec 31, 2022 4:45:48 GMT -5
Yeah, it made more sense in the 1940s (when the foster care system was far more cruel and unregulated) than in 1983. Still, it would take some heavy condensing of Batman and Robin's timeline to have him join at, say, age twelve and then found the Teen Titans almost immediately after. Yeah, it makes sense. I don't know if it's something which happened in the pre-Crisis era too, but often during post-Crisis people told Batman that putting kids in danger by putting them in a colorful costume and making them fight crazy killers was reckless. Of course he couldn't tell the truth ("In the 1930s this was better than the other alternatives") so these conversations always ended in an awkward silence from the Caped Crusader.
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Post by zaku on Dec 30, 2022 20:08:15 GMT -5
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Post by zaku on Dec 29, 2022 13:03:57 GMT -5
This was supposed to be some not-canon story like Planetary-JLA? Because I don't remember if the rest of the series was set in the, uhm, what was called?, Wildstorm Universe? Or yes? Too many years, too many comics... ^^;; Nope. This was pretty clearly set in the main Planetary storyline. It just didn’t add up to much. And yes, Planetary was in its own little corner of the Wildstorm Universe. Oh thank you. I think from a narrative point of view it would have made more sense if it had been set in a universe of its own. I mean, it ruin the magic a bit if the characters exclaim, "Look! Amazing! Aliens! Monsters! Super-beings!" when you live in a world where alien invasions are the norm... The Four kill the equivalent of Superman, but there are other equivalents out there like Mr Majestic and Apollo. They didn't finish the job?
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Post by zaku on Dec 29, 2022 3:30:22 GMT -5
This was supposed to be some not-canon story like Planetary-JLA? Because I don't remember if the rest of the series was set in the, uhm, what was called?, Wildstorm Universe? Or yes?
Too many years, too many comics... ^^;;
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