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Post by coinilius on Dec 9, 2020 8:09:38 GMT -5
Thanks for that! Someone else wanting to become a Joker seems like such an obvious set up for a story.
Does anyone know if there are any other stories where the chemicals actually do transform someone else?
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Post by coinilius on Dec 9, 2020 6:07:32 GMT -5
So I only just recently realised that the comics have adopted the ‘Joker pushes Harley into acid’ backstory (a bad idea, IMO, but that’s neither here nor there), and that got me thinking - have there been other characters that have been pushed into the same chemicals that created the Joker? I feel like there has been at least one other story where the chemicals that created the Joker were used on someone else but I can’t find anything on line about similar stories. Does anyone here know of any stories or characters?
Edit: I do know that the Creeper has been connected to the Joker in at least the animated universe and I think some comics as well, but I still feel like there has been others
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Post by coinilius on Sept 11, 2020 6:14:02 GMT -5
That’s awesome news - I use his website as a resource and enjoy his reviews, as well as reading the comments.
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Post by coinilius on Sept 10, 2020 21:58:09 GMT -5
Sub-Mariner, "the first mutant"... ugh... That Namor is a mutant (specifically because of his ankle wings) was established by Lee and Kirby way back in X-Men #7, so that's never bothered me. That he is somehow the first mutant is simply nonsensical. The Celestials implanted the potential for extreme benevolent mutation in the human race during the Paleolithic Era. Are we to believe *nothing* triggered that potential prior to 1920? And anyway, I thought Apocalypse was supposed to be the first mutant?
Cei-U! I summon the confusion!
Wait is he meant to be the ‘first’ first mutant now? Like the actual first? I always thought that was just a marketing thing/hyperbole - in universe there have been plenty of canonical mutants who were born before him - Apocalypse, Selene, probably most of the X-Ternals - he’s just retroactively Marvels first Mutant superhero, not the actual first mutant...
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Post by coinilius on Sept 10, 2020 20:04:53 GMT -5
Not saying that bad writing isn’t a culprit for some of that, Brutalis, because there has definitely been plenty of bad writing in the X books over the years (and good writing, don’t get me wrong), but how many of those changes have also been because of legitimate character growth and development over the years?
Considering it has been almost 60 years in the real world and who knows many years in-universe since the X-Men debuted as teenagers (it might be around 14 years or so by now?), then it’s not that surprising that they are very different characters now to when they first started out. Whether those changes are always organic and/or make sense is another issue...
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Post by coinilius on Sept 4, 2020 5:52:20 GMT -5
I haven't read that run of Firestorm. But it was written by John Ostrander who will always get every benefit of every doubt from me. I loved this run on Firestorm! I thought it was very interesting, especially the story with the Orishas.
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Post by coinilius on Sept 4, 2020 2:59:51 GMT -5
I’m not afraid to say that I am actually a fan of Rob Liefeld’s Captain America run - it’s not good writing by any stretch of the imagination but I found it fun and actually tracked down Fighting American as a result, since it contained some of the work that would have gone into the later issues.
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Post by coinilius on Sept 3, 2020 0:05:04 GMT -5
Hawkman/Carter Hall/Katar Hol Hawkgirl/Shiera Hall/Shayera Hol Captain Marvell/Walter Lawson/Captain Mar-Vell Some more great examples - as a big Silver Age Hawkman/Woman fan I should have remembered them lol
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Post by coinilius on Sept 1, 2020 16:56:09 GMT -5
Along similar lines, something I always found interesting with some of the DC heroes is the way they have 3 names/walk in 3 worlds - Superman is the hero, his human name is Clark Kent and then his ‘secret’ name is Kal-El. There’s a sort of mythological feeling to it, with the mundane human world, the superhero world and then another, mythic world they also operate in.
Other examples include:
Wonder Woman/Diana Prince/Princess Diana The Martian Manhunter/John Jones/J’onn J’onzz
Even Aquaman ended up getting one:
Aquaman/Arthur Curry/Orin
Obviously they are all ones who are ‘others’ that have come to the human world from outside, so it makes sense that they would have 3 identities.
Was typing this at work while waiting for the coffee jug to boil so sorry if it is a little stream of consciousness...
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Post by coinilius on Aug 22, 2020 5:57:22 GMT -5
Don’t forget the non-human Marvel monsters like Molten Man-Thing, Devil Dinosaur or Fin Fang Foom! The Molten Man and Man-Thing should team up to take on the Molten Man-Thing!
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Post by coinilius on Jul 26, 2020 20:04:04 GMT -5
Assistant Editor’s Month comics tended to be pretty laboured...
I’m currently reading through Spider-Man from the beginning to The Final Adventure mini-series (using it as a stopping point) but afterwards I would really like to get into a sustained Iron Man read through - I started on some collections of earlier material and kind of lost interest but I’d really like to tackle the 80’s issues.
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Post by coinilius on Jul 25, 2020 6:25:27 GMT -5
I'm not really understanding why any What If story would affect a story set in the "real" universe. Well it happened. Like Spider-girl. They just thought the reveal/story element of the baby Supreme Intelligence would be too similar - basically it would be old news and not as interesting for readers as they would think it was just being rehashed from a recent What If issue.
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Post by coinilius on Jul 23, 2020 22:35:21 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure Uncle Scrouge wOils count as top tier, especially thanks to the various Ducktales cartoons and the works of artists like Carl Barks and Don Rosa.
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Post by coinilius on Jan 10, 2020 16:56:23 GMT -5
Clark Kent is visiting the Daily Bugle Christmas party in the marvel team-up where Mary Jane is transformed into Red Sonya.
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Post by coinilius on Jan 9, 2020 17:21:38 GMT -5
For me, the good thing about the Batman/Cap team-up was that although it was Elseworlds, it still took place on a shared Earth (even if it was a different Earth from "our" Earth). So no dimension-hopping exposition needed! John Byrne’s Generations series of stories also draws from the concepts set up in that Batman/Captain America story
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