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Aug 23, 2016 17:56:20 GMT -5
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Post by coinilius on Aug 23, 2016 17:56:20 GMT -5
Yeah there have been plenty of additions to the burglar from Spider-Man's origin - I have known what they were in the past but couldn't tell you off the top of my head may more. He has a daughter that dated Ben Reily for awhile though.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 23, 2016 7:45:17 GMT -5
There was a Steven Grant/Charie Adlard X-Man short story in an issue of X-Men Unlimited as well if you want (slightly) more of that X-Man run.
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Aug 23, 2016 2:29:08 GMT -5
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Post by coinilius on Aug 23, 2016 2:29:08 GMT -5
Ma and Pa were still old in the present day stories though, they were just younger when they found Clark - meaning they were still old and grey and making apple pies and giving sage advice in the present. Personally, I think there are good and bad points to both versions of the Kents; it depends on which version of the story you want to tell. Having loving and supportive parents who are there to visit and talk to and who are also the heroes closest confidants actually strikes me as pretty unique amongst the long underwear crowd, and it's a status quo that I think has been used to good effect in other media as well, such as in Lois and Clark. I was speaking about this issue from 1968 where some alien serum de-ages the Kents. Why the editors went this route I can only guess. Maybe they thought that since most Superman readers were about 14 years old, having parents that look middle aged was something they could identify with more than elderly parents. Since Superboy stories disappeared a few years down the road , replaced by the Legion, and I stopped reading Superman altogether, I have no idea how they aged for the balance of pre-crisis. After the crisis, it was no longer the same character anyway Ah yes - yeah, making them young in the Superboy stories was probably not that good an idea. Your comment coming after the other comments about the Byrne reboot, I figured you were talking about that young Ma and Pa, sorry.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 22, 2016 23:56:34 GMT -5
Ma and Pa were still old in the present day stories though, they were just younger when they found Clark - meaning they were still old and grey and making apple pies and giving sage advice in the present. Personally, I think there are good and bad points to both versions of the Kents; it depends on which version of the story you want to tell.
Having loving and supportive parents who are there to visit and talk to and who are also the heroes closest confidants actually strikes me as pretty unique amongst the long underwear crowd, and it's a status quo that I think has been used to good effect in other media as well, such as in Lois and Clark.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 21, 2016 9:16:03 GMT -5
Since it seems, everyone has posted heroes or protagonist, is second stringer a applicable label for villains and antagonists too? It is probably harder to say who is a second-stringer among villains (especially given that we can't even agree who is a second-stringer among the heroes ). Having said that, I am really fond of the Gentleman Ghost as a villain. Visually he is one of the most striking villains. I really liked the Gentleman Ghost's turn in the Tony Isabella initiated Hawkman series from the 80's - he was a great supporting character from a great short-run series.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 21, 2016 9:07:00 GMT -5
i kind of figured that Dum Dum had taken some of that same anti-aging serum that Nick Fury had supposed to have been exposed to...
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Post by coinilius on Aug 21, 2016 8:55:44 GMT -5
Yep, as far as I know that is how the Vision/Human Torch situation currently stands - not including the Vision being destroyed in Avengers Disassembled and rebuilt as sort of a new person or something so he could hang with the Young Avengers and Human Torch being destroyed and coming back as well... Not sure if there is anything else that has happened to the two characters that have changed their timeline/construction/backstory.
I believe Roy Thomas intended the Vision to be made from a second Horton android, not the original Human Torch - he had an Adam II in an issue of What If? Also I think the Geoff Johns Vision mini-series from the early 2000's might have mangled things a bit more too, but I never read it...
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Aug 21, 2016 6:05:14 GMT -5
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Post by coinilius on Aug 21, 2016 6:05:14 GMT -5
I always liked Vision and Human Torch not being the same character - for one thing, it means that the awesome Jim Hammond Human Torch can be around again in the present alongside Vision. As I said before, it was later established that Vision was the original Torch, he was simply a temporally divergent version, which is why the two characters can now co-exist. Yeah that is actually a retcon that I didn't like - the original was handled well, IMO, while that just felt like too much. A lot of it just comes down to personal preference, and the Vision/Human Torch for me was better when they were revelled to be seperate and no time twisting shenanigans were involved.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 20, 2016 18:36:42 GMT -5
I always liked Vision and Human Torch not being the same character - for one thing, it means that the awesome Jim Hammond Human Torch can be around again in the present alongside Vision.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 16, 2016 17:54:20 GMT -5
There was a really good issue of Comicscene which was about all the new comic book universes that we're starting around the same time - Uktraverse, the Dark Horse ones, maybe the Clive Barker-verse comics marvel was doing as well - I can't remember exactly what all the content was, but I think Warriors of Plasm was in there too lol
I enjoyed what I read of the Ultraverse, which was mainly Prime and Mantra.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 15, 2016 18:35:13 GMT -5
Ron Lim was such a great artist during the 90's and the Infinity books - I thought he was great on Silver Surfer.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 14, 2016 19:49:34 GMT -5
The earlierClassic X-Men also had edits made to them, though by the time I started reading them I don't think they were still doing that... But I would have been too young to notice at the time (and didn't have the original issues to compare with). The back up strories were great though, some of them are really quiet good.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 14, 2016 17:36:26 GMT -5
I was a big reader of Classic X-Men when I started out - it was a great way to read the X-Men's history along with what was currently happening. Some of the new covers they had weren't too bad.
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Post by coinilius on Aug 14, 2016 6:08:01 GMT -5
Three cows shot me down... Bang bang, that awful sound... Bang bang, three cows shot me down... (Moo)
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Post by coinilius on Aug 13, 2016 22:33:48 GMT -5
DC produced some of the MotU comics - there are different waves of MotU mini comics, including creators such as Alfredo Alcada, Mark Texeria and Bruce Timm.
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