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Post by Outrajs on Nov 9, 2017 8:49:38 GMT -5
That's pretty interesting, for some reason I always thought it was just DC. Initials always seem cooler than full names...ie Adam Jenson = AJ or Mary Jane Parker = MJ (and the last lettering being a J is just automatically that much better...)
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Post by Outrajs on Nov 9, 2017 8:45:21 GMT -5
I think I would like to see the avenger villains against the Justice League. That would be fun. Superman up against Ultron. Kang pulling time whammies with past and future villains and heroes tossing them whilly nilly at the JLA. Interesting to see how the Avengers do up against the likes of Starro, Despero, the Key and others. How about Shaggy Man anyone?!? Brutalis...you ascribe WAY too much to me! I never would have put those pairings together! Now, that being said...I would like to see Wonder Woman's Silver Swan up against the X-Men's Storm. Or Cheetah...or better yet, Silver Swan AND Cheetah against Storm. And what about Mystique against Wonder Woman? Can you imagine Mystique in the Lasso of Truth? I would also like to see Warbird kick Lex Luthor's butt!
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Post by Outrajs on Nov 7, 2017 13:12:15 GMT -5
Heroes who use rings for their powers: Green Lantern(s) Sargon the Sorcerer Magicmaster Underdog (sort of) Lone Starr (SPACEBALLS) Xena!!!
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Post by Outrajs on Nov 7, 2017 13:10:55 GMT -5
Greatest Stan Lee moment ever..."WHO WANTS TO BE A SUPERHERO"
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Post by Outrajs on Nov 7, 2017 13:10:20 GMT -5
A great Stan Lee moment would have been grabbing the pen and stabbing Todd McFarlane's black heart out before he could single-handedly derail the comic book industry. Brutal there, Shaxper!
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Post by Outrajs on Nov 7, 2017 13:08:30 GMT -5
I think I would like to see the avenger villains against the Justice League.
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 29, 2017 8:27:52 GMT -5
I gave up on comics after DC's Crisis. At the time I was in college and had to make cuts in my budget. For the most part I went along with the single universe theme though it meant saying goodbye to my beloved Earth-Two. I bought the occasional comic, and Marvel was still simpler to follow. Then came the crossovers, so it was impossible to follow one comic. And multiple covers. DC said getting rid off Earth-Two and its doppelgangers of the prime universe characters was too confusing but then came a whole slew of "legacy" characters with so many suffixes to their name one had to brush up on Roman numerology. Soon comics disappeared from the local grocery stores, etc. The comics code -- whether good or evil -- was gone. Comics became more violent, dark and gritty. And don't forget the reboots! The term "comic book" became an oxymoron. A few years ago, DC announced 52, and started all over. And now DC announces Rebirth. Still not sure what that's going to be. Anyway, to get to the point, are comics still fun? Am I just an old man who misses .25 comics on a spinner rack? The days of letter columns. The smell of newsprint. Editor's notes. Actual comic panels. Or did I just answer my own question. I come from a different world where I was only mildly exposed to comic books as a kid. Some of the names interested me, but not enough to actually pick up a book and read them. So I missed out on the whole "wait in line to get the next edition" phase. Today, I have found a love of comic books (and mostly just the classics) in the "simple, straightforward, and child-like" writing of a bygone era. I can go back and not have to deal with politics or current trends slipping into the stories I am reading. The stories (although certainly not all) had heart, if not necessarily Pulitzer Prize writing. So, yes, comic books are still fun, but not necessarily new comic books.
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 26, 2017 13:10:42 GMT -5
That’s correct, or the repercussions are minor and the event is brushed under the carpet because no writer wants to follow through on someone else’s awful plotting decision. Cyclops had to pay a much higher price for killing Xavier while possessed by the Phoenix than for abandoning his family, even if it’s easily argued that he had very mitigating circumstances in the first case and not in the second. But it’s just not him, naturally. Over the years we’ve seen a popular fellow like Wolverine stab Rachel Summers through the heart because he disagreed with her philosophically (according to him, believe it or not, “X-Men don’t kill!”) He never had to answer for that. Years later he tried to murder the innocent Hope Summers just to be safe, because she might become a new Phoenix. No consequence. Captain America defied the government over a regulation issue, and in the following Civil War among costumed heroes people died and gazillions of dollars of damage were inflicted to the country. His trial never went anywhere because he coveniently “died”, and when he came back everything was forgotten. As long as you’re a popular character and someone wants to use you in a story, it seems, you never have to realistically face the consequences of your actions. To be fair, most people don't read comic books for rational thinking and reality. They red them for suspension of disbelief...but to me, a LITTLE reality makes it easier to lose myself in the book. Also, if you proclaim to be for the people and to protect them and serve them and blah blah blah...well there should be consequences if you expect the bad guy to face them!
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 26, 2017 13:04:38 GMT -5
But that's not what she looks like in the TV show!!!
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 26, 2017 3:58:38 GMT -5
My Top 5Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez Darwyn Cooke George Perez Jerry Ordway Dan Jurgens These five artists are my top five in order! This is my favorite picture of Garcia! You have exquisite taste, sir! But why do they always leave Hawkwoman off these group shots of the satellite-era JLA? I have a tin sign with a similar shot of the League by Ross Andru and she's left off that too. She joined before Zatanna or Firestorm. Cei-U! I summon the injustice! Love this pic! But who is the chick, second on the left next to Flash and who is the chick, second on the right next to Green Lantern?
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 26, 2017 3:56:23 GMT -5
I wouldn't. If you are going to argue for creator rights and comics as art and then put forward a product that is commercial and interchangeable despite who draws it, it's a hypocritical proposition. As much as I like George Perez, I don't want to see another artist trying to do a Perez pastiche for the artwork (or a Kirby pastiche, or a Kubert pastiche, or a Garcia-Lopez pastiche, etc.). Some artists may be influenced more and imitate another's work at various points in their development as artists, but that's part of the growth process and finding their artistic identity. Being forced to do so, is another matter altogether. If you are going to have a house style, you might as well do art for each issue by committee and not credit the work, because even if one artist is doing it, it's not an expression of themselves or their creativity, it is them consciously swiping another's style to meet the commercial desires of the client. I don't want generic product churned out to meet a predetermined style standard. I want creators exploring storytelling to the best of their ability and inspiration. House styles enable people like Bob Kane to put their name on other's work and get away with it. And that's not something I want comic companies to strive for or aspire to. -M Wow, I must b e a complete idiot. When the OP asked about adopting "house styles" I was thinking architecture...I didn't know it meant as in an overall style for a comic book. Yes, Virginia, I am a blonde.
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 26, 2017 3:44:50 GMT -5
Oh, they eventually tried to undo that grotesque decision by showing his wife was actually a Mr. Sinister construct (a demon-possessed one too, eventually), that Cyke was mentally manipulated by the evil Cameron Hodge, that he actually stayed oin New York for a very short time before going home again and blah blah blah. Typical awkward retcon of an undefensible, editorially mandated plot twist. Cyclops, the ultimate boy scout with starched underwear, would never have abandoned his wife and kid. That was character assassination, and I don’t hold it against him any more than I blame Peter Parker for striking his pregnant wife when Marvel tried to replace him with Ben Reilly. Such unforgiveable behaviour is not representative of who these characters are, and is attributable only to lousy decisions by misguided writers and editors. If it is explained that the recent soft reboot of the Marvel Universe got rid of that type of event, I won’t mind! Those kinds of "plot twists" make my heart hurt. And if his ex-wife was a construct, what about their kid? Look, people can make bad decisions (in real life or in comic books) and I think they should be able to move on...but seriously. Take the Hank Pym slap. Okay, was it a breakdown in communication between the writer and the illustrator? Was it intentionally scripted that way? Either way it happened, he should be able to move on once he has paid the price of the consequences. Cyclops should be able to have the same, but they never seem to have to deal with the repercussions of their actions.
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 26, 2017 3:38:09 GMT -5
Batgirl quit. Granted, she continued on as Oracle but one could argue that without the events of Killing Joke, Barbara Gordon could have remained a retired superhero. Coming back as another hero negates the whole "quit and never came back" part.
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 26, 2017 3:36:46 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that no one from the big two will ever stayed retired as long as the creative teams continue to change hands. It might happen in an Independent book. I mean , heck, they couldn't even keep Barry Allen and Bucky in the grave. It's like a soap opera...no body? Great, they're not really dead! But wait...sometimes there IS a body and they're still not dead! Why does it seem like they are afraid to actually kill anyone off and keep them that way?
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 24, 2017 20:32:27 GMT -5
So, basically, with the exception of a very few, the only reason a superhero would quit or retire was because their book was ending and no one wanted to take it up? Once a hero, always a hero? In hindsight yes, but there is another factor: writers or editors who won’t stand for cetain heroes to be retired and will bring them back into the fold, even if it makes little sense. Cyclops well and truly retired after X-Men #175, and that was supposed to stick. It was writer’s Chris Claremont’s gift to the character, who he felt had had a pretty crappy life. Cyke got married and got a job as an airplane pilot in Alaska. For a few hears he’d sometimes pop up in the X-Men book but his regular hero days were done. But then Marvel got the idea of X-Factor, and he was un-retired, uncharacteristically dumping his wife and kid to go play the hero in tights again. Ugh. That, right there, is a reason Cyclops is no longer a hero. If you can't be a hero to your own family, how can you truly be a hero to anyone else? That is the saddest return I have ever heard!
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