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Post by badwolf on Dec 24, 2014 11:40:21 GMT -5
He was the only one who was able to draw him correctly! I will agree with the more cat like evolution of Beast yes. Blue fur Beast I have a few favorites. Yah that's what I meant, the catlike Beast. Other artists could never get the snout quite right.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 24, 2014 11:47:11 GMT -5
I will agree with the more cat like evolution of Beast yes. Blue fur Beast I have a few favorites. Yah that's what I meant, the catlike Beast. Other artists could never get the snout quite right. With out incurring too much wrath ... I think Lee's was one of the best blue furred Beast artists. There's probably others that aren't coming to mind. Salvador Larroca did fairly well in X-treme X-Men.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 24, 2014 15:39:06 GMT -5
Frank Quitely: chicken scratch(literally): I think the difference is clear. Haha? Not sure if serious. You do know that the term "chicken scratch" is figurative, not literal right? Even so...that looks more like chicken scribble if anything. The point is in my view Frank's line work just doesn't have the confidence with the lines he throws down like a Neal Adams. And sometimes they seem randomly placed without purpose. This image of Robin's face is kind of what I'm talking about. But whatever. His style is his style. I just don't think he warrants being the 2nd best comic book artist of all time. It's a term that when used to describe art that is poorly done to the point of being nearly indecipherable, I chose a literal picture it's true but the meaning is the same and as I said the difference is clear as Frank's work is crystal clear, especially in the way he conveys motion and and emotion. And I don't see anything with out purpose either. And I don't think he's second best either, and certainly not above Moebius either, whom I think is his biggest influence, but chicken scratch? That goes way into the realm of hyperbole.
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Post by badwolf on Dec 24, 2014 19:07:07 GMT -5
Yah that's what I meant, the catlike Beast. Other artists could never get the snout quite right. With out incurring too much wrath ... I think Lee's was one of the best blue furred Beast artists. There's probably others that aren't coming to mind. Salvador Larroca did fairly well in X-treme X-Men. I remember John Cassaday, who I think is otherwise a rather good artist, always made him with the snout smooshed in, so he looked like one of those horrid designer cats that has trouble breathing because it has no nasal passages.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 26, 2014 20:08:46 GMT -5
I wonder many times on list complied by a websites' constituents, how many subconsciously vote for the popular people. Like how Lee and Byrne are as high as they are, yet good artists like Banks, Toth, Sale, and Coipel, are in the bottom rung of the list. I don't think people will, or can, be honest about rating an artists on their actual art not some bias to their popularity or cultural impact. If McFarlane (who I have nothing against) is even on the list (going by previous post, I didn't look through them all) and say Moebius isn't, it's clear the list is flawed in examining the art it it's craft, anatomy and in it's ability to make sense sequentially; which is after all what makes a good artist in the medium of comic books and comic strips. Moebius is #11. The criterion for the list had nothing to do with cultural impact. People were supposed to vote for their favorites.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 22:09:26 GMT -5
McFarlane is is surely some people's favorite. Some people say he's the greatest ASM (or Hulk) artist ever, and many of those people wouldn't be venturing too far from the top selling Marvel and DC books to know what else is out there.
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Post by berkley on Dec 27, 2014 0:11:05 GMT -5
I like Frank Quitely but don't think his style is particularly well-suited to superhero comics. If superheroes are drawn too realistically they just end up looking slightly ridiculous to me - like saggy-drawers Batman and cos-play brat Robin in the larger panel above.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 27, 2014 14:32:09 GMT -5
I like Frank Quitely but don't think his style is particularly well-suited to superhero comics. If superheroes are drawn too realistically they just end up looking slightly ridiculous to me - like saggy-drawers Batman and cos-play brat Robin in the larger panel above. I agree. Probably why We3 is my favorite work of his.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Dec 28, 2014 21:09:20 GMT -5
I like Frank Quitely but don't think his style is particularly well-suited to superhero comics. If superheroes are drawn too realistically they just end up looking slightly ridiculous to me - like saggy-drawers Batman and cos-play brat Robin in the larger panel above. I tend to agree with this, if I'm having supers I want the whole suspension of belief, give me spandex etc, but put him on an SF book or somesuch and hes fine. I think that Steve Dillon is another who fits this category, I love Preacher with a vengeance, but have just tried Wolverine: Origins by him and have found it unreadable(partially because of the art). Never liked his Ultimates stint either.
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Post by Dizzy D on Dec 29, 2014 4:41:34 GMT -5
I like Frank Quitely but don't think his style is particularly well-suited to superhero comics. If superheroes are drawn too realistically they just end up looking slightly ridiculous to me - like saggy-drawers Batman and cos-play brat Robin in the larger panel above. Agree, which is (imho) also why there was so much backlash against Igor Kordey when he did American superhero comics.
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