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Post by paulie on Jan 28, 2015 10:37:51 GMT -5
Some books from the 2000's I do think have growth potential and will keep their value due to small print runs. There are some indie books in particular that have amazingly small print runs, like Walking Dead. Even some mainstream books; I don't expect Archie stuff to ever get hot, but the major Archie titles were selling in the 10-20k range for an entire decade or more, with most of those copies being sold on the newsstand to kids rather than collectors. It's like pulling teeth to put together a run of Archie or Jughead from the 2000's. I do think some books that have already reached high prices are in for a fall, though. Batman #1 is silly to me. As was mentioned, it sold 188k copies, far more than most books of the past 15 years. There are plenty of copies out there. Walking Dead I think is also due for a fall when the TV show goes off the air, simply because it is so expensive now; it will always be worth money thanks to the low print run, but I can see it settling back to maybe half its current value once the show is off the air. You can apply this to 1st appearances of obscure Marvel Characters that people are speculating might pop up in a movie or on Agents of SHIELD (or now Daredevil.) This has made Ebay shopping tedious as I've seen a 20-30% spike in anything with a 1st appearance. Which I understand in the case of Scott Lang (Avengers 181) but Tagak from Daredevil 72? But this is what we are dealing with in the collectors market right now.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 28, 2015 10:53:53 GMT -5
The big question with Walking Dead #1 is will it drop in price when the show goes off the air and a new audience to fuel demand is no longer being created. I know 2 dealers who recently put high grade CGC copies up for sale (one a 9.2 one an 8.5) and it took both books nearly a week to get their first bid and both went for close to the minimum asking price (which was quite high admittedly), but neither garnered a ton of bids/interest, so I think questioning how long demand will fuel the current prices on that book despite the low print run is a legitimate question. I don't see it ever becoming a dog seller worth nothing, but I could see it's price tag losing as much a quarter to a third of its current value once the gravy train of demand in the form of the TV show goes off the air... -M The price has definitely stabilized... I sold mine for a hair over $1000 via E-bay about 2 years ago... non-CGC'ed ones are still running from $900-$1000. I too suspect that price will drop when the show ends (which is why I sold mine when I could). What I think will be interesting is if the relative scarcity will make it hold that price or not, despite the many other ways to get the story. Right now, it's a hot, collectible property, and many of the books being exchanged are going to people looking to make a profit... once that ends, who knows. A couple others I thought might be high: Saga looks like it's running $80-$100 for #1, with a 9.8 CGC'ed going for $400.. not many listed though (unlike Walking Dead), so I suspect that'll go higher. Fables #1 (maybe 1999) looks like about $40... $100-ish CGC'ed That's pretty much where it's been Ms. Marvel (1st Printing) is already up to $25-$30.. a CGC'ed 9.8 went over $100 Guardians of the Galaxy #1 from Bendis(the regular one) is going for cover or less.. a couple of the variant are getting $20-$30 The 1st issue of the DnA series, though is around $100
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Post by Crimebuster on Jan 28, 2015 11:02:17 GMT -5
What I find weird about Ms. Marvel in particular is that the normal version appears to be going for more money than most of the incentive variants, even thoough the variants have a much smaller print run. The Art Adams 50:1 variant commands a premium, but the normal cover seems to be going for more than the other variants, which I think were 10:1 and 25:1. I can only assume people like the normal cover better and that this is driving things for once instead of artificial scarcity? That would be nice to think, even though I own one of the variants.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jan 28, 2015 11:14:35 GMT -5
It seems extremely silly that a comic that is not even 3.5 years old and sold that many copies like Batman #1 could be selling for that much.
As to whether or not to sell it, it comes down to which do you want more, the comic or the money? I would be pretty surprised if it stayed that high long term, so if I had a copy, I'd sell it.
Is the New 52 Action #1 selling for a lot? I do have a copy of that, and I'd sell it in a heartbeat for $100.
EDIT: I figured as much. A quick check of sold issues on Ebay shows it going for $6-$8 dollars, with free shipping. One listing even had issues 1-8 that sold for $9.50. Guess I won't be cashing in. <sigh>
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 28, 2015 11:20:13 GMT -5
Nope..The 'usual' price seems to be $5-$6 for the regular 1st print... but a few sold in lots for under cover.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jan 28, 2015 11:23:16 GMT -5
Nope..The 'usual' price seems to be $5-$6 for the regular 1st print... but a few sold in lots for under cover. Yeah I saw that. Just goes to show why I never speculate on comics. I'm always wrong about what will make money.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jan 28, 2015 18:44:03 GMT -5
All I know is that if and when I see newer books that I know have value, I snag and try to resell. Because there is someone out there that needs that Walking Dead/Ms. Marvel/New GOTG/Deadpool ish and is willing to pay and for me, that is money I can put towards a true classic like ASM #50 or #129
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 28, 2015 19:01:25 GMT -5
All I know is that if and when I see newer books that I know have value, I snag and try to resell. Because there is someone out there that needs that Walking Dead/Ms. Marvel/New GOTG/Deadpool ish and is willing to pay and for me, that is money I can put towards a true classic like ASM #50 or #129 It's usually just a happy accident with me, I don't go out and buy 12 copies of an issue that might be big I just buy what normally interests me and occasionally if I notice that one of those books has an inflated value I might sell it.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jan 28, 2015 19:28:21 GMT -5
I more so just do research so that when I am out hunting or buying in bulk on Ebay, I know what I can flip. 12 copies of one ish is just hoarding.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 28, 2015 21:40:43 GMT -5
I more so just do research so that when I am out hunting or buying in bulk on Ebay, I know what I can flip. 12 copies of one ish is just hoarding. Meh. Who's it hurting? People who really NEED the issue pre-ordered it, and if you can make some money by doing this, then it's not hurting you either. "Hoarding" implies that there's something unhealthy or immoral about it.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 28, 2015 21:44:21 GMT -5
As a follow up to all this, I purchased five copies of Batman #655 (1st Damian Wayne) only a few months ago from mycomicshop for less than cover price. They're now selling for $14 on the site.
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Post by Action Ace on Jan 28, 2015 21:55:21 GMT -5
Bleeding Cool had an article about recent comics hitting $300 today. linkOdd to think that, in my collection of 20,000 comics, the one I could sell for the most is Batman Adventures #12.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 28, 2015 22:11:26 GMT -5
Bleeding Cool had an article about recent comics hitting $300 today. Wow. I paid $150 for my Albedo #2, and now it's in the four digits? Still, I'll likely never let it go. Irreplaceable.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 29, 2015 9:59:34 GMT -5
Bleeding Cool had an article about recent comics hitting $300 today. linkOdd to think that, in my collection of 20,000 comics, the one I could sell for the most is Batman Adventures #12. I can't imagine stuff like Chew and Copra are going to hold any value... once those series are done, they'll be forgotten... stuff like Badger and Nexus didn't hold any value, after all. Surprised to see Usagi on there... imagine if he ever got a legit cartoon?
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Post by shaxper on Jan 29, 2015 10:03:45 GMT -5
Surprised to see Usagi on there... imagine if he ever got a legit cartoon? Usagi remains an odd phenomenon to me. As a loyal fan, myself, I KNOW there isn't a large fanbase out there (the official website and discussion forum are all but a ghost town these days), and I also know print runs are significantly lower than they used to be (under 8K last time I checked), but yet the hardcover editions of the trades continue to sell out and go for crazy money on the aftermarket, and Albedo #2 just keeps going up in price. It helps that there are less than 2000 copies in existence (possibly MUCH less, as the original print run was given away for free at conventions and, likely, tossed in the trash by many), but even still, it took until 2005 for Overstreet to even catch wind that the book was worth more than the $4 it had been valued at previously.
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