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Post by gothos on May 12, 2014 17:49:23 GMT -5
I'm not going to try to re-create the "crossovers" thread from CBR, but since I continue to be interested in the topic, doing my "100 Best Crossovers of All Time," I decided to start fresh. If you're curious about what I've selected so far, here are the first seven: NUMBER ONENUMBER TWONUMBER THREENUMBER FOURNUMBER FIVENUMBER SIXNUMBER SEVENObviously, if anyone objects to this sort of tub-thumping, I shall cease forthwith. On to other stuff... |
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Post by gothos on May 12, 2014 18:02:29 GMT -5
One thing that strikes me as I go over my still-somewhat-provisional list of crossovers is the representation of women therein.
Now, I don't view a lack of 50-50 representation of female characters in pop fiction to be evidence of an oppressive patriarchy. An oppressive patriarchy does exist in specific quarters, but in popular fiction, it speaks more to a biological division of labor that precedes any concepts of politics.
We as modern thinking people don't have to accept this division of labor as an absolute. But to give the devil his due, it should be admitted that our fiction can't help but be informed by the early development of the division, best summed up as "females stay home and take care of the kids, males go out and have adventures killing giant sloths, getting killed by invaders, etc."
We do have real-life heroines like Boudicca and Mulan, though, so while I don't think one should expect a 50-50 representation of women in any category, I would like to think about which types of crossovers have shown women to best effect.
Strangely, though the medium of comic books has IMO shown the most facility with crossovers in general, the genre that seems to do best with female/male crossovers seems to be live-action (and animated) television. So far my provisional list includes:
Magnum PI and Jessica Fletcher
Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew
Maude/All in the Family
Xena/Hercules
Burke's Law/Honey West
He-Man/She-Ra
Now, leaving out crossovers with co-ed teams, what male-female crossovers from comics would you include?
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Post by gothos on May 12, 2014 18:08:23 GMT -5
On a related subject, "girl on girl" crossovers are hard to find in any medium.
In the history of the original BRAVE AND THE BOLD, there was just one-- Supergirl & Wonder Woman. It's a very silly story, but I may include it just as a historical item. The more recent B&B has had a few female-female teams, as with Wonder Woman and Power Girl, which was OK but not outstanding in any way.
Oddly, underground comics had one of sorts, when the creator of "Big Bitch" had her meet "Bettie Page." This is kind of dicey because it wasn't the historical Bettie Page, but sort of a concatenation of the fictional Bettie persona. I haven't entirely decided on this one.
There's also a Vampirella/Witchblade X-over that I found amusing; not sure it'll make final cut.
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Post by Icctrombone on May 12, 2014 18:13:54 GMT -5
I have a Catwoman Vampirella crossover.
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Post by gothos on May 12, 2014 18:16:21 GMT -5
I just recalled that Vampi also met Shi, but I wasn't too impressed with that one.
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Post by Action Ace on May 12, 2014 18:22:58 GMT -5
One of my favorite crossovers ever was a comic book character and a comic
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Post by gothos on May 13, 2014 17:37:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 20:04:02 GMT -5
Nuff said...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 20:08:45 GMT -5
Also liked the Devil's Reign story arc which pitted characters from the once up-and-coming Image/Top Cow with Marvel...back then in the mid to latter 90s, I was buying Top Cow books like Witchblade, Tomb Raider etc....anything to get away from Rob Liefeld.  |
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Post by Action Ace on May 13, 2014 20:17:24 GMT -5
One interesting crossover combination is Captain Marvel and Isis. They crossed over on tv  and in the comics  |
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Post by gothos on May 15, 2014 15:51:59 GMT -5
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Post by Jasoomian on May 15, 2014 18:26:01 GMT -5
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Post by gothos on May 17, 2014 16:25:26 GMT -5
Ouch! And I thought I was devoting too much time to this arcane subject...
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Post by Jesse on May 19, 2014 0:21:29 GMT -5
One crossover that I've reread quite a few times since it was originally published is the Medieval Spawn/Witchblade miniseries written by Garth Ennis.  The writing holds up pretty well, the characters are fun and the Brandon Peterson artwork is brilliant. |
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Post by gothos on May 20, 2014 17:43:22 GMT -5
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