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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 13:20:49 GMT -5
No, I have not. But now I want to own them. That cover is beautiful (on the one pictured). |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 3, 2015 15:55:35 GMT -5
I haven't read it Rob, but the fact that it was published in 1948 seems to support the train of thought I had above about that year being the year of Namora. Marvel really seemed to be pushing the character, trying to attract the new segment of female readers that was then emerging with the onset of romance comics. I do have a copy of Sub-mariner #27 from August 1948, the same month as Namora #1, and likewise cover featuring the titular character. It's strange that not a single story from the Namora run has ever seen subsequent reprint in a Marvel book, even with the draw of Everett art. Several of Bill's Sub-Mariner stories were added as backup fodder in various books in the 70's with Subby feature stories. Yeah, I don't think it's reprinted anywhere, is it? Which sucks. I'd really like to read it. Anyway Benday's right - it was one of three female led superhero-ish-sorta books launched at about the same time: Sun Girl and Venus were the other two. I keep hoping for reprints of all of 'em - some of Venus was reprinted, but not the Bill Everett material 0 but so far no dice.. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 5, 2015 20:10:35 GMT -5
I'm reading through Marvel Masterworks Golden Age Human Torch vol. 3 where Namor is the back-up feature - and Oh My God does his head get stranger and stranger looking throughout these 4 (quarterly) issues reprinted. In fact, I can see a change between the first pages in the Torch/Namor team-up in issue # 10 and the last pages. By the end there it's almost an equiliateral triangle... except that there are another couple lines in their so it's technically a pentagon... The whole thing is very disturbing.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Mar 5, 2015 20:30:34 GMT -5
Oh My God does his head get stranger and stranger looking ...The whole thing is very disturbing. The cover of Marvel Mystery Comics #77 by Syd Shores is one I single out as being representative of Namor's appearance going completely off the rails. He seems to be suffering from hydrocephalus here. Disturbing is right!  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 5, 2015 20:35:24 GMT -5
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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Post by DE Sinclair on Mar 6, 2015 11:38:32 GMT -5
Oh My God does his head get stranger and stranger looking ...The whole thing is very disturbing. The cover of Marvel Mystery Comics #77 by Syd Shores is one I single out as being representative of Namor's appearance going completely off the rails. He seems to be suffering from hydrocephalus here. Disturbing is right! Yikes. I didn't realize it was that extreme. That's not right. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 6, 2015 15:04:05 GMT -5
I recall Sub-Mariner demonstrating his power to change shape in an early issue of FF, turning into a puffer fish.  For a time in the mid-1940s he was into triangle fish  |
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Post by Rob Allen on Mar 6, 2015 15:27:30 GMT -5
The pufferfish maneuver was something Jack Kirby dreamed up while drawing that story. Namor never did anything like that before and never did it again.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Mar 6, 2015 16:23:17 GMT -5
The pufferfish maneuver was something Jack Kirby dreamed up while drawing that story. Namor never did anything like that before and never did it again. That's from Strange Tales #107. It's Dick Ayers working from a Stan Lee plot and Larry Lieber script. I don't think we can blame Jack for it.  |
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Post by Rob Allen on Mar 6, 2015 18:27:45 GMT -5
Good point. OK, Jack's off the hook for that one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 20:00:01 GMT -5
Oh My God does his head get stranger and stranger looking ...The whole thing is very disturbing. The cover of Marvel Mystery Comics #77 by Syd Shores is one I single out as being representative of Namor's appearance going completely off the rails. He seems to be suffering from hydrocephalus here. Disturbing is right! That's just scary. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Mar 6, 2015 20:16:45 GMT -5
Good point. OK, Jack's off the hook for that one. The early Strange Tales stories with the Human Torch are kind of weird and experimental. This is where Johnny has a secret identity for a minute and a half. The idea of a shared universe with a hard continuity was still a little bit in the future. This issue shows Namor exhibiting the powers of an electric eel in addition to the pufferfish!
A letter column in the mid-sixties (Fantastic Four? Tales to Astonish?) would specifically address these odd powers that the Sub-Mariner demonstrates here and the editorial response explicitly stated that Namor no longer has these abilities.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 21:03:08 GMT -5
Tales to Astonish are some of the best comic stories I have ever read. EVER.
I used to dislike how Stan Lee wrote Namor (because I didn't like how he'd speak to Lady Dorma when Stan wrote him), but oh god, he makes Namor a thing of hilarious beauty. The stories are fun, and Namor is great and soooo funny.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Mar 6, 2015 23:11:12 GMT -5
Tales to Astonish are some of the best comic stories I have ever read. EVER. I used to dislike how Stan Lee wrote Namor (because I didn't like how he'd speak to Lady Dorma when Stan wrote him), but oh god, he makes Namor a thing of hilarious beauty. The stories are fun, and Namor is great and soooo funny. Totally agree. It's especially gratifying to see Everett gradually return to the character in TTA. First inking, then eventually producing story, pencils, and inks in Sub-Mariner #50-55. It's a testament to his great talent that Everett's creation continues to captivate in its eighth decade of existence. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 6:47:02 GMT -5
Tales to Astonish are some of the best comic stories I have ever read. EVER. I used to dislike how Stan Lee wrote Namor (because I didn't like how he'd speak to Lady Dorma when Stan wrote him), but oh god, he makes Namor a thing of hilarious beauty. The stories are fun, and Namor is great and soooo funny. Totally agree. It's especially gratifying to see Everett gradually return to the character in TTA. First inking, then eventually producing story, pencils, and inks in Sub-Mariner #50-55. It's a testament to his great talent that Everett's creation continues to captivate in its eighth decade of existence. Oh, yes. And Everett's drawn Namor will ALWAYS be my favorite. Not just because he created the character, but he actually draws him best. He gives him the perfect balance between human and Atlantean as far as looks go. Perfect head shape (triangular but not too much), and he, by far, gives him the best eye shape. I love the extended eyelashes he gives Namor. And the eyebrows are perfect, too. I just love Everett's Namor. |
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