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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 14, 2024 12:17:19 GMT -5
I've heard Andor is incredible... Incredibly slow and drawn out, yeah.  For me, it's not even in the same league as Rogue One. Not by a long shot. Plus, I tend to agree with you that I'm not sure it was even a story that required telling. I guess you could legitimately say the same about Rogue one, but the proof of that was in the pudding and for my money the pudding was fantastic cinema. That said, Diego Luna was great reprising his title role in Andor and the production values are predictably high...and I also enjoyed the fact that, like Rogue One, it showed us the morally grubbier underside of the early Rebellion. But by far its biggest sin for me is that the story is unnecessarily stretched out, almost to breaking point, just to get 10 episodes (or whatever it was) out of it. It needed a good editor with the balls to say, "there's really not enough story here for a full series. Let's turn it into a feature-length TV movie." I really liked Andor... I thought it was some really interesting background on how the Death Star was built and the conditions of the average citizen in the Star Wars galaxy. Was the pace a bit slow? For sure. Alot like Bad Batch.. it's a great story being told in the Star Wars universe that I had no idea I wanted to hear about. If they MUST tell stories within the frame work of the existing movies (rather than moving forward) this is the sort of stuff I want. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 14, 2024 12:30:29 GMT -5
That’s similar to how I felt about the Obi-Wan show. Yes; like a tooth extraction, the shorter that was, the better!  |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 14, 2024 13:37:48 GMT -5
Incredibly slow and drawn out, yeah. For me, it's not even in the same league as Rogue One. Not by a long shot. Plus, I tend to agree with you that I'm not sure it was even a story that required telling. I guess you could legitimately say the same about Rogue one, but the proof of that was in the pudding and for my money the pudding was fantastic cinema. That said, Diego Luna was great reprising his title role in Andor and the production values are predictably high...and I also enjoyed the fact that, like Rogue One, it showed us the morally grubbier underside of the early Rebellion. But by far its biggest sin for me is that the story is unnecessarily stretched out, almost to breaking point, just to get 10 episodes (or whatever it was) out of it. It needed a good editor with the balls to say, "there's really not enough story here for a full series. Let's turn it into a feature-length TV movie." I really liked Andor... I thought it was some really interesting background on how the Death Star was built and the conditions of the average citizen in the Star Wars galaxy. Was the pace a bit slow? For sure. Alot like Bad Batch.. it's a great story being told in the Star Wars universe that I had no idea I wanted to hear about. If they MUST tell stories within the frame work of the existing movies (rather than moving forward) this is the sort of stuff I want. Yeah, the pacing was definitely a weak point but overall I really enjoyed And or and Bad Batch is honestly amazing. |
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Post by impulse on Apr 20, 2024 10:05:17 GMT -5
I'd like to see Star Wars content that is far away in time from anyone that even know a Skywalker. The story in the Knights of the Old Republic games was fascinating and had nothing to do with this 60 year period of time.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 20, 2024 14:20:50 GMT -5
Whoever made this video shares my opinion on RotS!
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Apr 20, 2024 15:09:19 GMT -5
There's a whole subculture of 'AI Star Wars' on Youtube now. That seems to be referencing another channel that has the 'Anakin's thesis' Saga where Anakin did his Jedi thesis on the 'Tragedy of Darth Plageius the Wise.'
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 20, 2024 21:34:09 GMT -5
I am amazed by what these people do with the help of A.I... It's like we're witnessing the birth of a new art form.
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Post by Dizzy D on Apr 22, 2024 7:43:22 GMT -5
Incredibly slow and drawn out, yeah. For me, it's not even in the same league as Rogue One. Not by a long shot. Plus, I tend to agree with you that I'm not sure it was even a story that required telling. I guess you could legitimately say the same about Rogue one, but the proof of that was in the pudding and for my money the pudding was fantastic cinema. That said, Diego Luna was great reprising his title role in Andor and the production values are predictably high...and I also enjoyed the fact that, like Rogue One, it showed us the morally grubbier underside of the early Rebellion. But by far its biggest sin for me is that the story is unnecessarily stretched out, almost to breaking point, just to get 10 episodes (or whatever it was) out of it. It needed a good editor with the balls to say, "there's really not enough story here for a full series. Let's turn it into a feature-length TV movie." I really liked Andor... I thought it was some really interesting background on how the Death Star was built and the conditions of the average citizen in the Star Wars galaxy. Was the pace a bit slow? For sure. Alot like Bad Batch.. it's a great story being told in the Star Wars universe that I had no idea I wanted to hear about. If they MUST tell stories within the frame work of the existing movies (rather than moving forward) this is the sort of stuff I want.
I will also speak up for Andor, which turned out to be one of my favourite Star Wars projects, but it probably didn't even need the Star Wars connections to work. It's slow (though I would prefer to say it takes its time), but I didn't feel that the story was stretched out.
It's basically 4 movies in 12 episodes: - Episodes 1-3: Andor gets into trouble with the law
- Episodes 4-6: The heist - Episodes 7-10: The prison break - Episodes 11-12: Andor returns home
With all the stories follow several different characters living under the Empire. I think in the whole series only 4 characters are pre-existing Star Wars characters (and two of them only appear very briefly).
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 22, 2024 8:09:39 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the world building in Andor. Simple things like that dude striking an anvil/bell in a steeple go a long way to draw me into a make-believe world. I also thought the popular uprising was very relatable; episode after episode, you could feel how discontent was growing and how the pressure cooker was about to blow. That earthy aspect of the rebellion felt more real than Mon Mothma's more academic stance in Kenobi.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 29, 2024 17:08:18 GMT -5
No slight to John Williams, but everything is better with the Space: 1999 theme!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2024 1:12:38 GMT -5
Random late night musing...you can tell you're getting on in life a bit when you watch Empire Strikes Back for the umpteenth time and it genuinely occurs to you, "wow, Vader doesn't ever have to run his staff terminations and promotions through HR".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2024 20:36:50 GMT -5
 My niece and I tried the Blue Milk. Tastes a bit like a melted vanilla shake. But my niece is in love with it. Had to go and buy a second half gallon. |
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Post by Dizzy D on May 1, 2024 4:09:55 GMT -5
Random late night musing...you can tell you're getting on in life a bit when you watch Empire Strikes Back for the umpteenth time and it genuinely occurs to you, "wow, Vader doesn't ever have to run his staff terminations and promotions through HR".
You wonder if Vader also writes letters to the family's of his fallen soldiers: "It regrets me to say that your son died due to his own incompetence. But rest assured, he made the Empire stronger by his absence."
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 1, 2024 19:30:59 GMT -5
Bad Batch finale today was quite good...totally NOT what the rumors thought, which was refreshing. I definitely hope we see more with Omega at some point.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2024 18:20:21 GMT -5
Hopefully we’ll get an Alpha meets Omega story relatively soon.
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