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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 23:02:43 GMT -5
MadBum with another dominate performance tonight. The guy is unreal!
Giants need one more win, but they'll have to do it in KC.
R.I.P. Taveras. Just saw him hit a big HR in the NLCS. So sad.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Oct 27, 2014 2:48:47 GMT -5
MadBum with another dominate performance tonight. The guy is unreal! Giants need one more win, but they'll have to do it in KC. R.I.P. Taveras. Just saw him hit a big HR in the NLCS. So sad. Bumgarner had a legendary performance. That was great to watch. Now we just need to hope Jake Peavy doesn't struggle in two days. I have a feeling he will. He's been horrible at Kauffman Stadium. The passing of Taveras is so surreal. Just saw him about a week and a half ago light up Jean Machi. I remember being nervous when he came to the plate in the last round. Can't believe he's gone. |
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Post by ironchimp on Oct 27, 2014 16:03:51 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if baseball had higher levels of concussion than other sports and I'd expect it to be far lower than many. Cricket is far more violent than baseball, allows balls aimed at the head, and fielding literally with a couple of feet of the bat, and they don't have anything like the issues of head injuries compared to many sports. Equipment is the key. Baseball has a 25 man active roster, so lets say 30 over the course of the season for a normative with call ups etc.-the Red Sox had 7 (I think, I would have to go back and check exact numbers but Holt, Pedroia, Napoli, Boegarts and Ross for certain, and I think Drew and another outfielder-Nava maybe-were tested after collisions) players tested for or put on the 7 day concussion DL this season-that's nearly a third to a quarter of the roster over the course of the season with potential concussions. Other sports may be higher, for certain, but that is still a significant percentage of the players involved suffering head trauma over the course of the season, and too high for it to be downplayed or brushed off as baseball isn't a dangerous sport for head injuries. On an NFL roster of 53 (say 60 for a normative with moves with practice squad) that would mean 15 or more players getting tested for the season to have the same percentage of players undergoing concussion protocols. IS the NFL at that level-if not than near so, but that doesn't lessen the impact or prevalence of concussions and head trauma in baseball just because it doesn't happen in as flashy and highlight reel inducing way. -M Obviously one would measure per game not per season as one plays 10 times as many games in a season as the other. This is a more accurate comparison of sports. www.headcasecompany.com/concussion_info/stats_on_concussions_sports(everyone seems to be using the same study for their data - this site just had an easy to digest table) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 18:30:16 GMT -5
Baseball has a 25 man active roster, so lets say 30 over the course of the season for a normative with call ups etc.-the Red Sox had 7 (I think, I would have to go back and check exact numbers but Holt, Pedroia, Napoli, Boegarts and Ross for certain, and I think Drew and another outfielder-Nava maybe-were tested after collisions) players tested for or put on the 7 day concussion DL this season-that's nearly a third to a quarter of the roster over the course of the season with potential concussions. Other sports may be higher, for certain, but that is still a significant percentage of the players involved suffering head trauma over the course of the season, and too high for it to be downplayed or brushed off as baseball isn't a dangerous sport for head injuries. On an NFL roster of 53 (say 60 for a normative with moves with practice squad) that would mean 15 or more players getting tested for the season to have the same percentage of players undergoing concussion protocols. IS the NFL at that level-if not than near so, but that doesn't lessen the impact or prevalence of concussions and head trauma in baseball just because it doesn't happen in as flashy and highlight reel inducing way. -M Obviously one would measure per game not per season as one plays 10 times as many games in a season as the other. This is a more accurate comparison of sports. www.headcasecompany.com/concussion_info/stats_on_concussions_sports(everyone seems to be using the same study for their data - this site just had an easy to digest table) If you are measuring games then, baseball players put themselves at risk 162 times a year while football players only 16. But since it is at practice according to your report not games, that most head traumas resulting in concussions occur, Football players are at risk from August-January while Baseball players are at risk from February-October. It occurs more frequently in football, but baseball players are at risk a longer period of time. Any concussion, no matter what sport is dangerous, and if it affects the same percentage of the rosters in each sport, how many games and practices each participates in becomes irrelevant. At the high school level, length of at risk time is reversed as football practice and season is quite longer than baseball season at the scholastic level, and in most schools the size of the football team is 3-4 times the size of the baseball squad as well. The class action suit against the NFL raised awareness and drew attention to concussions in football, but since that suit was filed and awareness of injuries and requirements for reporting head traumas and putting concussion protocols in place we have also seen a dramatic increase in the number of concussions in MLB and the NFL, two sports where players were expected to play hurt and play more often while hurt than the NFL. Yes, concussions in the NFL are prominent and a concern, but to dismiss the danger of them in other sports based on impressions and old data gathered before concussion protocols were in place is foolish. -M |
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Post by Rob Allen on Oct 27, 2014 19:26:15 GMT -5
Didn't George Carlin tell us everything we needed to know about the differences between baseball and football?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 19:48:49 GMT -5
Didn't George Carlin tell us everything we needed to know about the differences between baseball and football? -M |
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Post by Action Ace on Oct 28, 2014 18:24:46 GMT -5
Baseball might end tonight, but here comes the NBA!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 18:54:26 GMT -5
Baseball might end tonight, but here comes the NBA! It's a weird feeling to hate your favorite team more than any other team. This may be the year I'm finally done with the NBA completely. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 23:04:06 GMT -5
Baseball might end tonight, but here comes the NBA! It's a weird feeling to hate your favorite team more than any other team. This may be the year I'm finally done with the NBA completely. Can't stand the NBA, don't much like basketball at any level higher than high school hoops, it's a better game to play than watch, and as I have said before, I believe that the NBA is as much a scripted sport entertainment corporation as the WWE. I will say that I agree with Dan B about the ABA though-that was some entertaining sports.... -M |
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Post by The Captain on Oct 29, 2014 5:55:24 GMT -5
I've lived my entire life in an NBA-free city, so I have no affinity for it at all. Love college hoops, particularly University of Pittsburgh (my wife went to grad school there), but the NBA holds no interest for me.
Luckily, living in Pittsburgh, I can go from baseball season to hockey season back to baseball again without having to bridge any gaps with the NFL or NBA.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 7:25:27 GMT -5
I will say that I agree with Dan B about the ABA though-that was some entertaining sports.... Haven't watched it yet, but I noticed a couple of weeks ago that the ESPN "30 for 30" documentary on the Spirits of St. Louis, possibly the quintessential ABA team, is now available via Netflix streaming. I remember listening to the their first game via a very static-filled broadcast on KMOX. Didn't know it at the time, but in retrospect I was hearing a very early performance by a tyro named Bob Costas. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 7:27:01 GMT -5
I've lived my entire life in an NBA-free city, so I have no affinity for it at all. Love college hoops, particularly University of Pittsburgh (my wife went to grad school there), but the NBA holds no interest for me. Luckily, living in Pittsburgh, I can go from baseball season to hockey season back to baseball again without having to bridge any gaps with the NFL or NBA. Speaking of the ABA ... home to the league's very first championship team, the Pittsburgh Pipers. I own two ABA T-shirts; one is for the franchise's final incarnation, the Pittsburgh Condors. (The other is the Mempis Pros.) Bought them from a guy who was hawking them while a bunch of us were standing outside the arena in Indianapolis waiting for the doors to open for the ABA reunion autograph session back in 8/97. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 10:47:24 GMT -5
Welp, the Giants got walloped by the Royals last night to even up the series to 3-3. Seems like my Giants are a different team when MadBum isn't on the mound, unfortunately.
Royals have the momentum but MadBum may pitch (not start) after only 2 days rest. Going to be a huge Game 7 tonight. May the best team win.
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Post by Action Ace on Oct 29, 2014 17:01:18 GMT -5
Not confirmed yet, but CBS Sports is reporting that Joe Maddon to the Cubs is a done deal.
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Post by Action Ace on Oct 29, 2014 17:03:27 GMT -5
I will say that I agree with Dan B about the ABA though-that was some entertaining sports.... Haven't watched it yet, but I noticed a couple of weeks ago that the ESPN "30 for 30" documentary on the Spirits of St. Louis, possibly the quintessential ABA team, is now available via Netflix streaming. I remember listening to the their first game via a very static-filled broadcast on KMOX. Didn't know it at the time, but in retrospect I was hearing a very early performance by a tyro named Bob Costas. The fact that owners of that team got a cut of the TV money from the NBA for decades is the best part. I think they pocketed over $300,000,000 during the course of the deal. |
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