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Post by Crimebuster on Jan 28, 2015 12:29:20 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I think the NFL are a bunch of fools as well. But Lynch is supposed to be a grown man, not a petulant child. If he wants to protest the league's hypocrisy, he could do it by, say, using the platform the NFL has provided him through media day and access to tens of millions of fans worldwide to make an actual statement that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 12:36:47 GMT -5
He did use the platform to protest. That's why you're calling him a petulant child.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jan 28, 2015 12:58:24 GMT -5
He did use the platform to protest. That's why you're calling him a petulant child. No, I have no problem with him protesting the league's silly and draconic policies. It's the form in which he chose to stage that protest that I find idiotic. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 13:12:01 GMT -5
I also have no problem with him grumbling protesting, but here's the thing, ultimately they are the organization allowing you to make millions of dollars. He said last week he is embarrassed to be employed by the NFL. Well, if you are embarrassed and don't want to meet their requirements, don't work for them. There have been rumors he is considering retiring because he doesn't like working for them. If you truly don't like it, put your money where your mouth is and retire. If however, you are going to continue to suck from their teat and take their money, then you are their employee, do your job, and part of the job is participating in the dog and pony shoe and dealing with inane members of the media.
How many other employers have dress codes/uniforms for work? Mandatory attendance for events, meetings, training, etc. outside the regular job? Conduct codes and morality clauses in the terms of employment? Answer: lots. If you don't like them, you don't take those jobs and if you have to take the job, you suck it up and do the job as required. Just because you are an athlete and your contract is for more than most Americans will make in a lifetime doesn't make you special and above the requirements of your job. If you want to grumble and protest, that's fine. But there are consequences to that. You make the choice to not comply, then you are also choosing to take the consequences that come with that. I don't support the NFL and some of its idiotic policies, but I also don't feel sorry for poor put upon Marshawn Lynch and his rich man problems...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 13:15:05 GMT -5
You gonna make that same point a fifth time?
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Post by Action Ace on Jan 28, 2015 14:10:41 GMT -5
I'm back again to post so I don't get fined.
And I changed my hat to a CCF Board approved one as well.
What time is the Hurray For Everything concert?
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Post by Jasoomian on Jan 28, 2015 14:29:27 GMT -5
Sometimes incurring an NFL fine for spiking the ball or breaking some other petty rule helps the player build his brand and bring in more money for endorsement deals. Which are a job in and of themselves.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 28, 2015 14:30:37 GMT -5
Sometimes incurring an NFL fine for spiking the ball or breaking some other petty rule helps the player build his brand and bring in more money for endorsement deals. Which are a job in and of themselves. True. Notice Lynch's hat yesterday? I guess it sold out on the intertubes in moments. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 28, 2015 14:46:41 GMT -5
I also have no problem with him grumbling protesting, but here's the thing, ultimately they are the organization allowing you to make millions of dollars. He said last week he is embarrassed to be employed by the NFL. Well, if you are embarrassed and don't want to meet their requirements, don't work for them. There have been rumors he is considering retiring because he doesn't like working for them. If you truly don't like it, put your money where your mouth is and retire. If however, you are going to continue to suck from their teat and take their money, then you are their employee, do your job, and part of the job is participating in the dog and pony shoe and dealing with inane members of the media. How many other employers have dress codes/uniforms for work? Mandatory attendance for events, meetings, training, etc. outside the regular job? Conduct codes and morality clauses in the terms of employment? Answer: lots. If you don't like them, you don't take those jobs and if you have to take the job, you suck it up and do the job as required. Just because you are an athlete and your contract is for more than most Americans will make in a lifetime doesn't make you special and above the requirements of your job. If you want to grumble and protest, that's fine. But there are consequences to that. You make the choice to not comply, then you are also choosing to take the consequences that come with that. I don't support the NFL and some of its idiotic policies, but I also don't feel sorry for poor put upon Marshawn Lynch and his rich man problems... -M He did comply and I don't see how saying, "I'm contractually obligated to be here." is any different than grumbling a protest other than the fact that in this case it was televised for all to see. He wasn't standing up and giving every one the finger or interrupting the ceremonies in any way, he was just stating that he was here and that was all that was actually required. If the league would like more than just showing up they would have to stipulate that and further if that was their aim I would think they'd want to ban the clowns; if you want serious replies you have to create a serious environment and that's true of any job; you want your employees to care about their jobs and conduct themselves at work like mature adults you have to treat them like adults and illustrate that their efforts are worth while and appreciated. The NFL isn't doing that here, by letting in these bozos they're setting a tone that says this doesn't matter and when you do that you can't expect any one to act any differently. So the NFL has two options, if the tone matches their stance and they truly feel this is a worthless exercise then they need to just do away with the event rather than forcing their employees to go through with it, or establish a base line for credentials so that only serious sports journalists can attend and with that level of decorum in place the players will follow suit. |
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Post by Jasoomian on Jan 29, 2015 1:01:58 GMT -5
teamcoco.com/video/drew-brees-on-deflategateWherein Brees can tell a football is 11psi within two seconds of picking it up. A longer clip I've seen has him also immediately identifying another ball as being at 13psi. But Tom Brady had no idea... right.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jan 30, 2015 5:39:19 GMT -5
Hearing what Lynch said at the presser...for some reason I just don't care one way or the other. Perhaps it's because I've distanced myself from football since Harbaugh was "let go". I don't know. I'm trying to think to myself if I was Lynch, why would I care what the media says one way or the other? I don't see why he would be bothered by anything that is or isn't said. He can just show up, answer questions with one word answers (like Colin Kaepernick does) and leave. The fact that he's complaining about having to be there is weird to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 19:49:03 GMT -5
Here's my five selections that are HOF Material.
Jerome Bettis, RB (1993-2005)
Don Coryell, Coach (1973-86)
Charles Haley, DE (1986-99)
Orlando Pace, LT (1997-2009)
Junior Seau, LB (1990-2009)
I want Don Coryell to get in the HOF because he was an innovative-type coach that made the Air a lethal weapon; I shudder the thought of Air Coryell because Dan Fouts, Charlie Joiner, John Jefferson, Chuck Muncie, and Kellen Winslow scared the daylights out of me. With all those offensive weapons - I'm surprised that they never, ever won a Super Bowl together. It's baffled me.
I was hoping that these three will make it eventually.
Morten Andersen, K (1982-2007)
Will Shields, RG (1993-2006)
Kurt Warner, QB (1998-2009
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Post by Rob Allen on Jan 30, 2015 20:30:23 GMT -5
Morten Anderson is the NFL's all-time leading scorer, but as a kicker I doubt he'd get enough of the necessary votes at this time How can the league's all-time leading scorer NOT be in the Hall of Fame? |
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Post by Crimebuster on Jan 30, 2015 20:36:51 GMT -5
I'd put him in before Jerome Bettis. I always thought Bettis was overrated. And... checking... yep, I still do.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 30, 2015 20:47:33 GMT -5
Completely disagree on Kurt Warner. He had three great seasons with the Rams to start his NFL career, then a string of six seasons where he was average or worse with the Rams/Giants/Cardinals, then finished up with two decent seasons in Arizona.
If people like Tim Brown, Marvin Harrison and Jerome Bettis are having difficulty getting into the HOF, there is no way on earth Warner should get in unless he buys himself a ticket to see the guys who actually deserve to be there.
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