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Post by Fan of Bronze on May 30, 2014 6:08:23 GMT -5
What I don't get is the DVD/Blu Ray combo. Why would you want that? Either you want the Blu Ray or you want the DVD, right? "Oh look, honey, we can own that X-Men movie now." "On DVD? But you know we've been talking about getting that Blu-Ray player in a couple of months." "Yeah, you're right. We should wait." |
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Post by Cei-U! on May 30, 2014 7:32:32 GMT -5
Sound quality is superior on vinyl.The record industry sold people horse manure when they stated the opposite when CDs were introduced. Color me skeptical, because that hasn't been my experience at all. When people make such claims, I want to recommend a good ear doctor to them. I'll take the crisp, clear sound of a CD over the pops, clicks and hisses of vinyl every time. Ah well, to each their own. (Incidentally, I agree with jez about the album art but that's packaging, not sound quality.) Cei-U! I summon the different drummer... on digital! |
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Post by Ozymandias on May 30, 2014 7:33:50 GMT -5
If the books aren't readily available to you,its like you don't own them anyway. That's basically the conclusion I reached 25 years ago. If I'm not going to read it again, why keep it? You only have at hand what you really want. Unless you live alone in a big house. |
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Post by Ozymandias on May 30, 2014 8:06:45 GMT -5
The resolution of the best digital reading devices now available cannot hold a candle to the full-color resolution achievable with the 500-year-old technology of print. True for most devices out there, but not the future. I bought a 13" rMBP as soon as they became available, for the main purpose of reading comics, and they look better on digital form, than the originals. |
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Post by Ozymandias on May 30, 2014 8:12:37 GMT -5
So he's in a metal band with international following and sells 100 copies of each album. When he gets too old for tours, he'll rethink the whole business side of his activities. |
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Post by Ozymandias on May 30, 2014 8:18:03 GMT -5
You can stream movies and television on your smart phone, so why do people still buy enormous HD TVs with 1083p resolution? Not a good analogy. The experiences change. If your floppy comic came in two formats, manga sized pages or magazine sized pages, which would you choose? The bigger one. Easier on the eyes, better display of the details. Tablet displays are comparable to comics in size these days. Bigger is better? Depends on the actual size of the page, the artist was working on. You don't want to look at details, when you're just zooming. |
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Post by thecolortechnic on May 30, 2014 9:27:38 GMT -5
I will never, ever, EVER understand people who prefer vinyl to digital. Cei-U! I summon the enigma! I believe it's as simple as the fact that you can touch vinyl. It's a whole other experience similar to the difference in reading comics in your hands as opposed to on a screen. The content is (essentially) the same but not the experience, allowing you to prefer one over the other, if you so choose. Quality of sound is debatable but moot since it requires high end speakers that most people do not have. But there certainly is a difference, just not how people think. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 30, 2014 13:00:15 GMT -5
Shax, I hope I'm wrong.Its too late for me since my old collection is sitting somewhere in some stranger's home 3000 miles away but it would put a big smile on my face if there was a huge epiphany amongst people that comics are the greatest storytelling format ever devised and millions of folks became collectors. But you and I and most folks here are from a different generation. And I see how 95% of younger folks (below 20 years old) abandoned vinyl or CD for digital music.They're not gonna collect old,smelly paper but will be happy to read things on their e-devices You're right about music, but it seems like people are more hesitant to make the switch to digital for books... even young people. My daughter and all her buddies love books, and scoff at e-books... even though a couple of their parents have kindles collecting dust. I think for books/comics is more about availability then format preference. As far as condition goes, it's hard to say. I'm in Shax's boat, I like having the originals if I can get them, but I don't care about grade. I've never bought a book for investment, though, I just don't roll that way. Other than duplicates or trying to spread the word, the only comic I've ever sold is Walking Dead #1 (which I got about $1000 for like 2 years ago)... I bought it off the shelf the month it came out and had no idea I had it until I was re-organizing around then. I didn't CGC it, just tossed it on ebay for .99 minimum, then put $500 in the bank and turned the rest into about a long box and a half worth of civil war era Marvel I had missed. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 30, 2014 13:02:07 GMT -5
What I don't get is the DVD/Blu Ray combo. Why would you want that? Either you want the Blu Ray or you want the DVD, right? That's an easy one... blu ray for home, DVD for laptop. I don't pay extra for it, but it's nice to have. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 14:39:45 GMT -5
What I don't get is the DVD/Blu Ray combo. Why would you want that? Either you want the Blu Ray or you want the DVD, right? "Oh look, honey, we can own that X-Men movie now." "On DVD? But you know we've been talking about getting that Blu-Ray player in a couple of months." "Yeah, you're right. We should wait." The DVD will work in a Blu Ray player, and Blu Ray players are like $30 now. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 14:41:37 GMT -5
Not a good analogy. The experiences change. If your floppy comic came in two formats, manga sized pages or magazine sized pages, which would you choose? The bigger one. Easier on the eyes, better display of the details. Tablet displays are comparable to comics in size these days. Bigger is better? Depends on the actual size of the page, the artist was working on. You don't want to look at details, when you're just zooming. Assuming they were drawing on a standard sized Bristol. Even if they weren't. Even if the comic page was meant for manga format, I'd rather be reading Lone Wolf And Cub in a magazine sized format than the tiny volumes I'm reading now, if that were an option. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 14:45:52 GMT -5
Sound quality is superior on vinyl.The record industry sold people horse manure when they stated the opposite when CDs were introduced. Color me skeptical, because that hasn't been my experience at all. When people make such claims, I want to recommend a good ear doctor to them. I'll take the crisp, clear sound of a CD over the pops, clicks and hisses of vinyl every time. Ah well, to each their own. (Incidentally, I agree with jez about the album art but that's packaging, not sound quality.) Cei-U! I summon the different drummer... on digital! It's the range of high and low frequencies analog can deliver that digital could also deliver, but currently doesn't because they prefer saving file space to fit more songs on a CD. So they're mastered to have less range. Like I said, it would take a higher end stereo to actually deliver the range found in analog anyway, so if all you have is a mid to low end stereo, the highs and lows of analog won't exist anyway. Eventually, when physical media is a memory and everyone has ultra fast and cheap internet and our MP3 players all have 500gb worth of memory, digital will probably deliver audiophile quality sounds. They have the capability to do it now, but every song would be like 2gb. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on May 30, 2014 15:02:09 GMT -5
I have a very good home system. Certain instruments,particularly horns,sound richer on vinyl.
Yes and the compression they use when manfacturing CDs drives the quality down
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 15:04:35 GMT -5
One thing I've noticed about AV equipment is that I hardly notice a difference when I upgrade, until I watch or listen to something at someone else's house without gear as good as I have. I bought my first decent stereo in around 97. It was about a mid range at the time. Top of the line at Circuit City or Best Buy. I noticed it was louder, and I could hear the surround sound effects pop on sometimes, but for the most part it seemed like a novelty. Then after I get used to it and I watch a movie at a friends house out of the tiny TV speaker at the front of the house and it kills me. That's when I really notice the difference. So I would probably have been better off never buying the stereo and always being happy with the TV speaker.
I don't have that stereo anymore, but I have an okay sound bar and subwoofer that I won in a contest at work. Sometimes I turn it off to hear the TV speaker just to remind myself how much better the soundbar is.
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Post by thecolortechnic on May 30, 2014 15:30:13 GMT -5
The way I understand it, the loss of dynamics comes from how you have to record to digital. Like digital images, digital sound is made up of, essentially, pixels. So just like how the more pixels a camera can capture the nicer a picture will look (i.e. less pixely), you have to record as loud as possible, without clipping, to emulate a smoother sound wave. You'll visibly see this in Soundcloud, for instance, where you'll notice that 99% of the song played will have a sound wave that consistently hits the top and bottom. Anything not recorded at max volume will have that pixelated, metallic sound. Compression isn't just for saving space, it's for evening out the sound wave to make it digital appropriate.
So in essence all instruments you hear in new music, recorded digitally, is all actually at the same volume. Our minds make up the difference from the context of the song. If a song is supposed to sound "softer" it'll sound that way not because of a decrease in volume but in our minds reading the context that the song shifted in tone.
What this means then is that if you want to hear everything that was intended of a classical piece, jazz song or a pick floyd track, you'll probably want to listen to it on vinyl. Newer music doesn't matter as much since typically it's recorded digitally and at what is now being called "loud".
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