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Post by codystarbuck on May 20, 2023 9:26:01 GMT -5
A squad or gorilla infantry, wearing kepis would be awesome!
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Post by Hoosier X on May 20, 2023 9:29:56 GMT -5
A squad or gorilla infantry, wearing kepis would be awesome! There could be a panel with Scalphunter looking through the brush, with a thought balloon where he says, “WTF?”
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Post by Hoosier X on May 20, 2023 9:54:29 GMT -5
I wanted to point out that this run has a lot of guest-stars who had never teamed with Batman in TBATB or had only appeared once or twice before. The Brave and the Bold displayed a tendency to use a lot of guest stars repeatedly, and would at times go a full year with only one first-time guest.
Starting with #167 ...
#167 - Blackhawk (first TBATB team-up) #168 - Green Arrow (over and over again with this guy!) #169 - Zatanna (first TBATB team-up) #170 - Nemesis (first TBATB team-up)) #171 - Scalphunter (first TBATB team-up)) #172 - Firestorm (first TBATB team-up) #173 - Guardians of the Universe (first TBATB team-up) #174 - Green Lantern (also a frequent TBATB guest star) #175 - Lois Lane (first TBATB team-up) #176 - Swamp Thing (second TBATB team-up) #177 - The Elongated Man (first TBATB team-up) #178 - The Creeper (second TBATB team-up) #179 - Legion of Super-Heroes (first TBATB team-up) #180 - The Spectre (third TBATB team-up with Batman) #181 - The Hawk and the Dove (first TBATB team-up) #182 - Earth-2 Robin (first TBATB team-up) #183 - The Riddler (first TBATB team-up) #184 - The Huntress (first TBATB team-up)
Then they have fewer first-time guest stars, but still do a pretty good job of mixing it up with first-time guests. For the last 16 issues, I’m just going to list the first-timers.
#188, #189 - Rose and the Thorn #192 - Superboy #195 - I, Vampire #196 - The Ragman #197 - Catwoman #198 - Karate Kid
#200 features a team-up between Earth-2 and Earth-1 Batman and as they have both appeared in TBATB team-ups, just not together until this issue.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 20, 2023 11:45:03 GMT -5
I’m skipping ahead to #176. I don’t have #173 and #174 yet. And I read #175 (with Lois Lane) a couple of weeks ago. It’s pretty good!
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Post by Hoosier X on May 20, 2023 12:12:14 GMT -5
The Brave and the Bold #176
Batman and Swamp Thing
“The Delta Connection!”
Written by Martin Pasko
Art by Jim Aparo
Great cover by Mike Kaluta!
I didn’t think too much of this one.
Selina Kyle shows up to ask Bruce to get hold of Batman to help her. She’s retired from being Catwoman and she’s trying to go straight. But her sister Felicia is in prison in Louisiana and some bad guys are trying to kill her because she knows where some stolen diamonds are hidden. Or something.
Felicia was never mentioned before or since. She’s only onstage for a few panels before she’s killed. So Pasko is throwing in an unknown sister of Selina Kyle and then not doing a damn thing with her.
And even if Selina is going straight, she doesn’t need Batman to help her save her sister! I get that this is Bronze Age Catwoman. But I still don’t buy it. It’s like the writer hasn’t read a Catwoman story since the early 1950s when she got her memory back, quit her life of crime and opened a pet store. Like, for example, he didn’t read the story from a year later where she put on the Catwoman suit to try and stop her brother from continuing a life of crime as the King of Cats.
Anyway, Batman goes to Louisiana and meets Swamp Thing, and Felicia is killed, so Batman fails miserably and we never hear of it again after this issue. Selina becomes Catwoman again and seemingly forgets she ever had a sister.
I’ve only read Swamp Thing when Alan Moore wrote it. And that happened a few years later. I think Martin Pasko became the writer on Saga of the Swamp Thing shortly after this TBATB issue appeared. I’m assuming he got better at writing the Swamp Thing because it’s hard for me to imagine the character (as he’s depicted here) thriving long enough for Moore to take over.
He just kind of lumbers around feeling sorry for himself. Batman crashes a disabled Bat-Copter into him, knocking him unconscious. Neither of them can save Felicia. They do manage to get the guy who killed Felicia. Swamp Thing has some kind of mystical experience with the ghost of Felicia that rekindles his will to survive long enough for Saga of Swamp Thing #1 a year later.
The Aparo art is very nice!
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Post by zaku on May 20, 2023 12:27:34 GMT -5
#200 features a team-up between Earth-2 and Earth-1 Batman and as they have both appeared in TBATB team-ups, just not together until this issue. I don't know if I would say that #200 is a bona fide "team-up"... 🤔
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Post by Hoosier X on May 20, 2023 18:11:27 GMT -5
The Brave and the Bold #178
Batman and the Creeper
"Paperchase"
Written by Alan Brennert
Art by Jim Aparo
The Creeper appeared in TBATB three times, in #80, #143 and #178.
This is a pretty weird story. I wasn't sure I liked it at first. But it soon struck me that it's actually a pretty relentless tribute to Steve Ditko in a lot of ways, and I'm rather inclined to give it a lot of points for being weird and fun and completely in tune with the strange nutty vibe of Batman's co-star the Creeper.
Batman is investigating a series of weird deaths. And Jack Ryder is still working in Gotham City media, in charge of security at WHAM-TV. Some of the old Creeper supporting cast is hanging around. And there's a reactionary demagogue, Clayton Wetley, on one of the WHAM programs, ranting about America's moral decay and blaming the recent murders on moral laxity in the media. Jack Ryder doesn't like the show but the station manager defends because it has such high ratings.
The media. A raving demagogue. The effects on society. Talking heads panels with ordinary citizens reacting to the show, like an old issue of Spider-Man. It's all very Ditkoesque. And Jim Aparo does a great job of giving us a bouncy, rubbery Creeper frolicking along the rooftops as Ryder calls on his yellow-skinned alter ego to start looking into the murders.
The Creeper and Batman meet up and join forces to solve these odd murders. The victims are junkies and drunken college students to immigrants with no other connection except being the kind of people that Wetley blames for all of America's problems.
And the murderer turns out to be ... a monster made out of paper! It's like those old pre-hero Marvel stories from Strange Tales and Tales to Astonish where the monster is an alien made out of smoke (Diablo) or mud (Taboo) or wood (Groot). It's more of a Kirby thing, but Ditko drew a few of them.
And, hey, get this! Wetley is an origami collector!
Well, it turns out that Wetley isn't doing it consciously. He has psychic powers that he's been suppressing his whole life, and somehow his anger at those he considers to be bad for America is manifesting in a monster made of origami paper that comes to life through his mind powers and kills people!
Watching Batman and the Creeper getting beat up by the paper monster brings Wetley to his senses and he manages to get control of his powers and the monster bursts into flame!
The end!
I don't know what else to say about it. Just another story about a looney, murdering, Gotham City paper monster!
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Post by Chris on May 20, 2023 22:24:21 GMT -5
This story needed a villain that could go toe-to-toe with Zatanna’s powers, which would be a lot more interesting than exploiting her weakness like a fireplace in a Martian Manhunter story. I suggest DC Comics Presents #18, if you have not read it before. It's not the type of story you're asking for here, but it's very much not the kind of story in that issue of B&B. And it's written by Gerry Conway, whose B&B issues right after this you liked.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 20, 2023 23:34:10 GMT -5
This story needed a villain that could go toe-to-toe with Zatanna’s powers, which would be a lot more interesting than exploiting her weakness like a fireplace in a Martian Manhunter story. I suggest DC Comics Presents #18, if you have not read it before. It's not the type of story you're asking for here, but it's very much not the kind of story in that issue of B&B. And it's written by Gerry Conway, whose B&B issues right after this you liked. But she’s still wearing that space vampire costume! I’ll see if I can get it digitally somewhere.
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Post by Chris on May 21, 2023 0:17:07 GMT -5
But she’s still wearing that space vampire costume! But it's drawn by Dick Dillin, who makes it look less vampire and more pixie-like. Or at least less suck-like.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 21, 2023 8:10:12 GMT -5
The Brave and the Bold #179
Batman and The Legion of Super-Heroes
“Time-Bomb with the Thousand-Year Fuse!”
Writer: Martin Pasko
Penciller: Ernie Colon
Inker: Mike DeCarlo
The art’s pretty good. But oh how I wanted to see Aparo drawing Shadow Lass and Shrinking Violet!
It’s better than it should be. The time-travel angle isn’t as contrived as these things usually are. It’s part of the villain’s plan and Batman gets transported to the 30th century because he interfered at the wrong moment.
You see, there’s this egg-shaped item a little bigger than a football that’s being examined by scientists in the 30th century. They’ve determined that it has anti-matter inside it, and they are trying to figure out what the outer shell is made of that it neutralizes the effect of the anti-matter and prevents it from exploding in a universe made of regular matter. They’ve figured out that it will explode in a thousand years.
So a bad guy named Halitosis Valkor (or something like that) shows up and steals the egg. Several members of the Legion are nearby and they come to help, but they can’t stop the theft. It’s Chameleon Boy, Princess Projectra, Cosmic Boy, Colossal Boy, Sun Boy and Element Lad. (Shadow Lass, Shrinking Violet and Duo Damsel are also in the story, but they are hostages of the main villain as he sends them all to different, dangerous places and threatens to abandon them to great peril if the Legion doesn’t back off.
Halitosis Valkor meets with the main villain, who is shrouded by darkness so the reader doesn’t know that it’s Universo until later. Valkor takes the anti-matter egg 1000 years into the past to hide it in a time capsule that is placed at Gotham Memorial Stadium. Universo has calculated that it will explode in 1000 years exactly when there’s an event at the stadium that will be attended by the Legion. (Something like that. I’m typing this on my phone in bed and I don’t want to disturb my dog or cat to check the details.)
Batman attacks just as Halitosis Valkor is traveling back to the 30th century and he gets dragged along accidentally.
He teams up with the Legion to stop Universo’s plan and they wrap it up in the last few remaining pages.
Rond Vidar is in it. And it’s a full-length story. There’s no Nemesis back-up this month.
I was a little disappointed that the story didn’t use very many of my favorite Legionnaires. Just Chameleon Boy, Shadow Lass and Shrinking Violet, and the latter two weren’t in it very much.
And there’s not much characterization for the LSH members, even those with the most coverage. It’s probably hard to do them justice when there’s so many characters in one book and you have to make time for Batman and the villain as well as the LSH. But I still would like to have seen a few character moments, expressed through dialogue, or something like that. I’m very much under the impression that Pasko didn’t have much experience writing the Legion.
But overall, not a bad effort. Just a little disappointing.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 21, 2023 8:50:54 GMT -5
The Brave and the Bold #180
Batman and the Spectre
“The Scepter of the Dragon God”
Writer: Michael L. Fleisher
Art: Jim Aparo
This is the Spectre’s third team-up with Batman in TBATB. There will be one more in #199. Way back when I was first reading comics, I got a beat-up copy of TBATB #116 at a used-book store. Great Aparo art. Batman and the Spectre fight a bunch of World War II soldiers who had violated a cemetery of Kali worshippers in India with bulldozers while building a road. Crazy Bob Haney stuff.
The story in #180 is not as good. There’s an evil Japanese wizard from many centuries ago who has been resurrected and is robbing museums and stealing the segments of his magic wand so he can be as powerful as he used to be. With the wand fully put together, he beats the Spectre! Fortunately, Batman knock the wand out of his hand with a batarang and he turns to dust.
The end!
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Post by Hoosier X on May 21, 2023 9:08:36 GMT -5
I got another batch of TBATB issues in the mail, so I think I am going to review those in chronological order before going back to the issues from the early 1980s that I had been reviewing.
Here’s what I got ...
#113 - A 100-Page Super-Spectacular guest-starring the Metal Men! Also reprints of Green Arrow, Hawkman, the Challengers of the Unknown and the Viking Prince.
#129 - With Green Arrow, the Atom, the Joker and Two-Face (One of my favorite comics when I was a kid!)
#137 - The Demon
#162 - Sgt. Rock
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Post by Hoosier X on May 21, 2023 11:15:54 GMT -5
I read the first few pages of DC Comics Presents #18. I’m liking it a lot so far. Very nice art by Dick Dillon. And I like the premise, that Superman is trying to figure out why he’s so susceptible to magic, and wondering if there’s a cure for it.
And I’m also smiling at the way he somehow managed to get a copy of the Necronomicon without any trouble. Does Jason Blood have a lending library? Hey Superman! Make sure you get that back in one piece!
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Post by codystarbuck on May 21, 2023 12:02:02 GMT -5
I read the first few pages of DC Comics Presents #18. I’m liking it a lot so far. Very nice art by Dick Dillon. And I like the premise, that Superman is trying to figure out why he’s so susceptible to magic, and wondering if there’s a cure for it. And I’m also smiling at the way he somehow managed to get a copy of the Necronomicon without any trouble. Does Jason Blood have a lending library? Hey Superman! Make sure you get that back in one piece! You could buy that at any sizeable bookstore; we had copies at Barnes & Noble! When they weren't being stolen..... Okay technically, that book is a fake, cobbled together, based on the Lovecraft stories; but, still...... We also used to get people asking about some similar thing from Dean Koontz, something referenced in his stories. I never read his work (not a horror fan); so, I had no idea, but knew it was a plot device, like the Necronomicon, in Lovecraft's work. We also had a few people who thought Star Wars was based on an earlier book series, probably convoluting the Journal of the Wills quote, at the beginning of the novelization of the original film. That came from an early tag line in Lucas' script; but the internet seemed to convolute it into a previous writing. I spent about 15 minutes trying to explain it to a young woman and even showed her the quote in the novelization, but she was determined that I was wrong, even though I saw the film in theaters and read everything about it, before she was born. Trust some fool on the internet but not the bookstore guy who was a huge fan and an obsessive reader of favorite subjects. Not like here though........
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