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Post by Hoosier X on Jul 1, 2023 13:56:23 GMT -5
OK, Bob. I looked over the latest script for Brave and Bold. The bad guy can have an army of gorilla henchmen OR an army of zombie Nazis, but not both.
How can I work under these conditions! Just for that, I’m going to write another Sgt. Rock story. You can tell Kanigher to go to HELL!
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 1, 2023 14:48:39 GMT -5
eh. Bob Haney wasn't the only one wonky with continuity.
- Batman was raised by Joe Chill's mother following the murder of his parents. Batman #208 by E Nelson Bridwell. Referenced again in Untold Legend of the Batman
- The Joker glows in the dark thanks to his falling in that vat of chemicals. Detective Comics #388 by John Broome.
- Bruce Wayne once spent some time in Smallville as part of his training to become a crimefighter. Who brought him to Smallville? His still living parents. Adventure Comics #275 by Jerry Coleman.
And what about the stuff which would probably have raised an eyebrow if it hadn't been picked up by later writers? What would readers have made of, say, Thomas Wayne being the first Batman if no one ever referenced Bill Finger's story later on? Or Bruce Wayne being the first Robin?
It was pointed out somewhere - perhaps on these boards - that it was actually Bob Haney who first underscored just how obsessed Batman was with Joe Chill when, in Brave and the Bold #124 Batman subverts the psychological torture he's being forced to undergo by repeating the name 'Joe Chill' over and over and over again. I don't think any writer ever established just how messed up Batman was by the guy before this. The murder of his parents? Sure, but Haney may have been the first to depict Batman really obsessing over Chill beyond the point which I think readers could be expected to take it for granted he would be. Nowadays, Batman probably says 'Joe Chill' over and over in his sleep, but back then, he only got referenced whenever a flashback was called for.
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Post by zaku on Jul 1, 2023 15:55:59 GMT -5
eh. Bob Haney wasn't the only one wonky with continuity. - Batman was raised by Joe Chill's mother following the murder of his parents. Batman #208 by E Nelson Bridwell. Referenced again in Untold Legend of the Batman - The Joker glows in the dark thanks to his falling in that vat of chemicals. Detective Comics #388 by John Broome. - Bruce Wayne once spent some time in Smallville as part of his training to become a crimefighter. Who brought him to Smallville? His still living parents. Adventure Comics #275 by Jerry Coleman. I don't think there is anything strange about the first two points. About the third, well, they later explained that  |
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Post by zaku on Jul 1, 2023 16:21:57 GMT -5
But do you want to know a story that really gave continuity a stroke? This one.  Where it is said that Kal-El's parents were still alive and had managed to escape the explosion of Krypton. What. The. F.?!?! This is seriously worse than anything ever born from the mind of Bob H. How is it physically possible that someone gave the OK to this story?!? |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 1, 2023 18:21:27 GMT -5
OK, Bob. I looked over the latest script for Brave and Bold. The bad guy can have an army of gorilla henchmen OR an army of zombie Nazis, but not both. How can I work under these conditions! Just for that, I’m going to write another Sgt. Rock story. You can tell Kanigher to go to HELL! What about an army of Nazi gorilla zombies?  |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 1, 2023 19:00:50 GMT -5
OK, Bob. I looked over the latest script for Brave and Bold. The bad guy can have an army of gorilla henchmen OR an army of zombie Nazis, but not both. How can I work under these conditions! Just for that, I’m going to write another Sgt. Rock story. You can tell Kanigher to go to HELL! What about an army of Nazi gorilla zombies? They mated? |
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Post by Hoosier X on Jul 3, 2023 10:22:03 GMT -5
I’m supposed to get Batman #260 today! EBay says it’s out for delivery.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jul 25, 2023 20:28:06 GMT -5
Who remembers the Underworld Olympics? This is a four-part Batman storyline from the mid-1970s. Batman #272 to #275, to be exact.
I’ve never read it.
But I do remember reading a little bit about it in the letters page in Batman #279 (which I bought for the Riddler. I wouldn’t buy Batman regularly until a few years later).
I was reminded of the Underworld Olympics while scrolling around on the Internet a few days ago. I looked it up and found out it was four issues long!
I decided to go ahead and order them on eBay. I should have them in a few days. And after almost 50 years since I first heard about it, I’ll finally know what the Underworld Olympics is all about.
Written by David V Reed. Art by Garcia-Lopez and Chua.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 31, 2023 21:21:34 GMT -5
The ashes thing is easy... When Bruce was excavating an expansion for the Batcave, he needed the space where the graves were, so he cremated the bodies in the newly installed Bat-incinerator and displayed the urn in the Manor sitting room.
I'll be looking for my No-Prize in the mail.
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Post by zaku on Aug 1, 2023 0:50:04 GMT -5
The ashes thing is easy... When Bruce was excavating an expansion for the Batcave, he needed the space where the graves were, so he cremated the bodies in the newly installed Bat-incinerator and displayed the urn in the Manor sitting room. I'll be looking for my No-Prize in the mail. This is quite dark. I love it! 🤣 |
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 1, 2023 20:36:27 GMT -5
The ashes thing is easy... When Bruce was excavating an expansion for the Batcave, he needed the space where the graves were, so he cremated the bodies in the newly installed Bat-incinerator and displayed the urn in the Manor sitting room. I'll be looking for my No-Prize in the mail. Now you see, that seems to me to be a perfectly rational explanation for something that happened in the Haneyverse. |
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Post by zaku on Aug 2, 2023 0:47:03 GMT -5
But did readers ever try to point out these inconsistencies on the mail page? And what was the answer? "Shut up and enjoy the story"? "Get a life"?
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 2, 2023 10:39:14 GMT -5
But did readers ever try to point out these inconsistencies on the mail page? And what was the answer? "Shut up and enjoy the story"? "Get a life"? Hoo-boy... Catching mistakes seems to have been a regular past time of readers writing into the Superman titles during Weisigner's era, but I never saw much of it elsewhere. "Shut up and enjoy the story" and "Get a life" aren't too far off the mark of some of the responses Weisigner gave, but more often than not, he'd try to explain how these mistakes weren't mistakes. And not just in the letter pages either. Have you ever read a Silver Age Superman comic and wondered why the dialogue is the way it is? The way Superman doesn't just catch Lois when she falls from a plane but instead catches her and then thinks to himself something like "Normally, a fall from such a height would cause great injury to a person landing upon my steel-like arms! However, by extending a stream of super breath between Lois and my arms, I can cushion her fall so that no harm is done!"? Chances are, Weisigner had received a letter pointing out that Superman catching someone from a falling building would cripple that person thanks to landing on his girder like arms and decided to head off any criticisms at the pass. It's why I think that if you're not reading the letter pages for these comics, you're missing a lot of context for why they read as they do. So why can't Superman think or say something like, "Great Scott! Red Kryptonite!" when he encounters the mineral instead of "Great Scott! Red Kryptonite! Unlike Green Kryptonite which can prove fatal, red kryptonite's effects wear off after 24 hours! At least I know that whatever changes it creates in me this time will only occur only this once since after every encounter with the substance, I develop an immunity to that piece. However, that won't be the case if in the future, I come into contact with a different piece!"? It's because Weisigner knew that if he didn't include this mouthful, he'd be treated to a deluge of "Dear Editor, you goofed!" letters about a mistake that wasn't actually a mistake (ie. "Shouldn't Red Kryptonite kill Superman?" "I thought Red Kryptonite could only work on Superman once! Admit it, you goofed!") Frankly, I'm glad that Haney never went this route. "There's my parents' urn!" just sounds more natural to me than "There's my parents' urn which has rested there since I asked Alfred, my faithful butler, to sell their bodies to that haunted house exhibit down the road in exchange for having my permission to keep whatever jewelry he finds on them! Although not cremated, the urn nevertheless serves as both a tribute to their memory and to the fifty bucks I made that day!" |
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 4, 2023 20:57:49 GMT -5
I ordered a beat-up copy of Detective Comics #239 off eBay.
It’s another one where there’s a Batman robot!
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Post by zaku on Aug 5, 2023 6:41:21 GMT -5
But did readers ever try to point out these inconsistencies on the mail page? And what was the answer? "Shut up and enjoy the story"? "Get a life"? Hoo-boy... Catching mistakes seems to have been a regular past time of readers writing into the Superman titles during Weisigner's era, but I never saw much of it elsewhere. "Shut up and enjoy the story" and "Get a life" aren't too far off the mark of some of the responses Weisigner gave, but more often than not, he'd try to explain how these mistakes weren't mistakes. And not just in the letter pages either. Have you ever read a Silver Age Superman comic and wondered why the dialogue is the way it is? The way Superman doesn't just catch Lois when she falls from a plane but instead catches her and then thinks to himself something like "Normally, a fall from such a height would cause great injury to a person landing upon my steel-like arms! However, by extending a stream of super breath between Lois and my arms, I can cushion her fall so that no harm is done!"? Chances are, Weisigner had received a letter pointing out that Superman catching someone from a falling building would cripple that person thanks to landing on his girder like arms and decided to head off any criticisms at the pass. It's why I think that if you're not reading the letter pages for these comics, you're missing a lot of context for why they read as they do. So why can't Superman think or say something like, "Great Scott! Red Kryptonite!" when he encounters the mineral instead of "Great Scott! Red Kryptonite! Unlike Green Kryptonite which can prove fatal, red kryptonite's effects wear off after 24 hours! At least I know that whatever changes it creates in me this time will only occur only this once since after every encounter with the substance, I develop an immunity to that piece. However, that won't be the case if in the future, I come into contact with a different piece!"? It's because Weisigner knew that if he didn't include this mouthful, he'd be treated to a deluge of "Dear Editor, you goofed!" letters about a mistake that wasn't actually a mistake (ie. "Shouldn't Red Kryptonite kill Superman?" "I thought Red Kryptonite could only work on Superman once! Admit it, you goofed!") Frankly, I'm glad that Haney never went this route. "There's my parents' urn!" just sounds more natural to me than "There's my parents' urn which has rested there since I asked Alfred, my faithful butler, to sell their bodies to that haunted house exhibit down the road in exchange for having my permission to keep whatever jewelry he finds on them! Although not cremated, the urn nevertheless serves as both a tribute to their memory and to the fifty bucks I made that day!" BH grown up in the most peculiar environment  |
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