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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 0:31:40 GMT -5
Spoke to the same friend of mine who is a production assistant on the show... Assures me that a Netflix Punisher series starring Jon Bernthal is essentially a formality. He knows I'm a huge Punisher fan and told me, and I quote... "Looks like Frank's story is finally going to get the justice it deserves". Hyped, folks. As if you didn't know already. And then head of Marvel TV yesterday shot down any rumors that there is a Punisher show in the works... BC article on Loebso that formality that your PA friend said is what is lacking seems to be a renegotiating of the original deal between Marvel and Netflix that neither side wants to alter at this point to accommodate new series until the original contracted ones launch and see what gets second season orders. So I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a Punisher series until at least after the Defenders series launches and then only if one of the already agreed upon series doesn't get an order for additional seasons. There's also the issue of whether Marvel wants to put a series out there with a main character who could be seen as promoting gun violence in the current political climate-a supporting character or antagonist sure, but the protagonist of a series might get some backlash and Marvel Studios/television doesn't want anything that can hiccup the momentum and mojo they have going right now. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 9:25:10 GMT -5
I would love a Netflix Punisher series. I enjoyed the Thomas Jane Punisher movie several years ago, but Bernthal looks like the Punisher I conjure up in my mind. He has the tired, hollow look that I would expect someone who has been through what the Punisher has endured would look like. Almost like all that keeps him going is taking down bad guys. I think he will be a great fit in the world of Daredevil. While the cast is very attractive, they look like people you would see everyday. One of the reasons I enjoy the show so much is that despite the extraordinary circumstances they find themselves in, the series is rooted in a dark, scary, and corrupt reality.
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Post by Warmonger on Feb 25, 2016 9:57:38 GMT -5
Spoke to the same friend of mine who is a production assistant on the show... Assures me that a Netflix Punisher series starring Jon Bernthal is essentially a formality. He knows I'm a huge Punisher fan and told me, and I quote... "Looks like Frank's story is finally going to get the justice it deserves". Hyped, folks. As if you didn't know already. And then head of Marvel TV yesterday shot down any rumors that there is a Punisher show in the works... BC article on Loebso that formality that your PA friend said is what is lacking seems to be a renegotiating of the original deal between Marvel and Netflix that neither side wants to alter at this point to accommodate new series until the original contracted ones launch and see what gets second season orders. So I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a Punisher series until at least after the Defenders series launches and then only if one of the already agreed upon series doesn't get an order for additional seasons. There's also the issue of whether Marvel wants to put a series out there with a main character who could be seen as promoting gun violence in the current political climate-a supporting character or antagonist sure, but the protagonist of a series might get some backlash and Marvel Studios/television doesn't want anything that can hiccup the momentum and mojo they have going right now. -M Meh, I wouldn't expect any kind of formal announcement for at least another 4-5 months anyway. I think it's really dependent on how well Bernthal's portrayal of Frank is received in the 2nd season of Daredevil. Punisher is still an immensely popular character, so I'm sure they'd definitely have a sizable audience that is interested. |
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Post by Warmonger on Feb 25, 2016 11:31:39 GMT -5
2nd Trailer
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 12:12:38 GMT -5
And then head of Marvel TV yesterday shot down any rumors that there is a Punisher show in the works... BC article on Loebso that formality that your PA friend said is what is lacking seems to be a renegotiating of the original deal between Marvel and Netflix that neither side wants to alter at this point to accommodate new series until the original contracted ones launch and see what gets second season orders. So I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a Punisher series until at least after the Defenders series launches and then only if one of the already agreed upon series doesn't get an order for additional seasons. There's also the issue of whether Marvel wants to put a series out there with a main character who could be seen as promoting gun violence in the current political climate-a supporting character or antagonist sure, but the protagonist of a series might get some backlash and Marvel Studios/television doesn't want anything that can hiccup the momentum and mojo they have going right now. -M Meh, I wouldn't expect any kind of formal announcement for at least another 4-5 months anyway. I think it's really dependent on how well Bernthal's portrayal of Frank is received in the 2nd season of Daredevil. Punisher is still an immensely popular character, so I'm sure they'd definitely have a sizable audience that is interested. It'll come down to money. Marvel won't just give the character to Netflix to develop, so a deal will have to be worked out. Netflix will want something from Marvel in return which may be alterations or concessions on the original deal for the Defenders slate of shows or more characters along with Punisher, or something behind the curtains. MArvel may have things they want to accomplish with the Defenders slate that may or may not tie in to the movie slate and Infinity War stuff as rumored, which makes the timing of the shows critical to them, so they may not want the Punisher series to affect the schedule of the other shows' production and release. Netflix may want to alter that schedule to hit while the iron is hot with Punisher if indeed that are considering a Punisher series. There's a lot more going on there at the suit level than anyone involved in the actual production/making of the shows is probably aware of. Loeb's statement makes it seem pretty clear Marvel's plans are geared towards the original deal and slate of shows and that is their priority. The success of the Daredevil and Jessica Jones shows only means they want to continue to build those brands with additional seasons. Things could change certainly, but Marvel has invested quite a bit in the hype/development of that original slate of shows with the Defenders series as the big payoff, and Punisher, while getting good buzz, doesn't fit in with the long term pan as we see it. The strength of Marvel Studios under Feige is that they have had a vision of the endgame in mind all along and have stuck to the plan and built the successes into franchises in phases. They haven't abandoned the plan for a phase to chase the success of something, but have shown a steady hand in building each layer as planned and then moved forward to the next phase. The slate of Netflix shows leading to the Defenders is phase one of their Netflix plan. I wouldn't expect any alterations to that phase one plan until it is seen to completion, which is still 2-3 years away I believe. Build on Berenthal as the Punisher within the shows of phase one, sure, spin a series out of it in phase 2, sure, I can see both of those, but to alter the plans for the first phase to chase something else, that doesn't seem to be the way the studio division of Marvel works, and why they have been successful in keeping the momentum going and the growth of their brand steady. -M |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 25, 2016 19:51:13 GMT -5
Could they do a Punisher show on another platform?
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Post by Warmonger on Feb 25, 2016 20:38:41 GMT -5
Could they do a Punisher show on another platform? Not sure...but if they decided to go in that direction, it better be on AMC, HBO, or Showtime or something. I doubt anyone would have much interest in a toned down Punisher series on The CW, Fox, etc. And sadly, I doubt we'll see another Punisher movie on the big screen any time soon with the lack of success of the previous 3 films. |
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Post by Gene on Feb 25, 2016 20:45:32 GMT -5
I'm sure we'll see a Punisher show on Netflix eventually. They probably just want to get Defenders out of the way before committing to any new series.
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 25, 2016 20:51:05 GMT -5
Could they do a Punisher show on another platform? Not sure...but if they decided to go in that direction, it better be on AMC, HBO, or Showtime or something. I doubt anyone would have much interest in a toned down Punisher series on The CW, Fox, etc. And sadly, I doubt we'll see another Punisher movie on the big screen any time soon with the lack of success of the previous 3 films. I'd be interested in a CW Punisher show. It'd be hilarious... |
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Post by Warmonger on Feb 25, 2016 21:40:36 GMT -5
Not sure...but if they decided to go in that direction, it better be on AMC, HBO, or Showtime or something. I doubt anyone would have much interest in a toned down Punisher series on The CW, Fox, etc. And sadly, I doubt we'll see another Punisher movie on the big screen any time soon with the lack of success of the previous 3 films. I'd be interested in a CW Punisher show. It'd be hilarious... LOL True |
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Post by coke & comics on Feb 26, 2016 22:31:36 GMT -5
At the risk of hyperbole, I believe this will be basically the best thing ever. |
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Post by Gene on Feb 27, 2016 16:33:25 GMT -5
At the risk of hyperbole, I believe this will be basically the best thing ever. Everything about it is Daredevilish. Ninjas? Check Questioning the nature of vigilantism? Check. Sleeping with an improbably beautiful yet dangerous woman in an unusual location? Check. |
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Post by Warmonger on Feb 28, 2016 12:38:28 GMT -5
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Post by Warmonger on Mar 5, 2016 9:49:42 GMT -5
www.forbes.com/sites/merrillbarr/2016/03/01/daredevil-season-2-review/#6b1e547a104d"While the improvements are great, though, the big question everyone has going into the new season is, “how good is Jon Bernthal as the famed Punisher?” Luckily, that question is a very simple one to answer: he’s great. This is the Punisher fans know. This is the Punisher fans want. This is the Punisher the MCU needs. While Thomas Jane, Ray Stevenson and even Dolph Lundgren put their own spin on the character in years past, Bernthal’s is the one that’s most true to the image that made Frank Castle a key player. He’s unrelenting. He’s brutal. He’s terrifying. He’s a killer. This is the Punisher everyone has been waiting for. This is the Punisher everyone wants, plain and simple."
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Post by Warmonger on Mar 8, 2016 9:09:34 GMT -5
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