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Post by senatortombstone on Dec 10, 2016 10:32:15 GMT -5
I did not realize this resource existed. Very nice to know! Say, I was going through my Conan the Adventure back issues, finished reading issue 1, then went on to 2, only to discover it was a reprint of CtB #2. Well, I was reading the synopses of the CtA series and realized there was an actual new story in CtA #2, so I checked another copy of the book I had, and there it was, the new (at the time) story. I re-checked the issue of that had the CtB #2 reprint and at the bottom of the first page, it indicated the issue as Conan Classic #2. Has anyone ever seen this error before? I've never seen an error like it elsewhere, but I do have that misassembled comic. There are correctly assembled copies of CtA #2 out there, though. I believe that the DH King Conan Volume #3 has a misassembled version of issue #13. These certainly are odd errors. I wonder if they have any particular value - probably not. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 10, 2016 10:40:59 GMT -5
I've never seen an error like it elsewhere, but I do have that misassembled comic. There are correctly assembled copies of CtA #2 out there, though. I believe that the DH King Conan Volume #3 has a misassembled version of issue #13. These certainly are odd errors. I wonder if they have any particular value - probably not. As ever, they are valuable if someone is ready to pay for them. I personally consider my misassembled CtA #2 a problem, not an asset!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 12:21:30 GMT -5
I did not realize this resource existed. Very nice to know! Say, I was going through my Conan the Adventure back issues, finished reading issue 1, then went on to 2, only to discover it was a reprint of CtB #2. Well, I was reading the synopses of the CtA series and realized there was an actual new story in CtA #2, so I checked another copy of the book I had, and there it was, the new (at the time) story. I re-checked the issue of that had the CtB #2 reprint and at the bottom of the first page, it indicated the issue as Conan Classic #2. Has anyone ever seen this error before? Yeah, the error is more common than the correct version. I have recounted my adventures trying to get a correct copy here on forums elsehwere. Essentially all of the copies form one of the printing plants (the one on the east coast that did the bulk of the print run) put the interiors to Conan Classic #2 into a Conan the Adventurer #2 cover and that was what Diamond and other distributors sent to comic shops in the eastern US, so it was virtually impossible for a while to get the actual story from CtA #2 in the eastern US until the advent of the internet and the correct copies had dispersed throughout comicdom. It wasn't an isolated mistake on a few copies, it was most of the print run of CtA #2. And it didn't sell well enough for Marvel to go back to press and make corrected copies to replace the other ones. -M |
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Post by ArizonaTeach on Dec 12, 2016 16:44:05 GMT -5
I did not realize this resource existed. Very nice to know! Say, I was going through my Conan the Adventure back issues, finished reading issue 1, then went on to 2, only to discover it was a reprint of CtB #2. Well, I was reading the synopses of the CtA series and realized there was an actual new story in CtA #2, so I checked another copy of the book I had, and there it was, the new (at the time) story. I re-checked the issue of that had the CtB #2 reprint and at the bottom of the first page, it indicated the issue as Conan Classic #2. Has anyone ever seen this error before? Yeah, the error is more common than the correct version. I have recounted my adventures trying to get a correct copy here on forums elsehwere. Essentially all of the copies form one of the printing plants (the one on the east coast that did the bulk of the print run) put the interiors to Conan Classic #2 into a Conan the Adventurer #2 cover and that was what Diamond and other distributors sent to comic shops in the eastern US, so it was virtually impossible for a while to get the actual story from CtA #2 in the eastern US until the advent of the internet and the correct copies had dispersed throughout comicdom. It wasn't an isolated mistake on a few copies, it was most of the print run of CtA #2. And it didn't sell well enough for Marvel to go back to press and make corrected copies to replace the other ones. -M You learn something new every day! Thanks for the info! |
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Post by senatortombstone on Dec 14, 2016 7:45:07 GMT -5
I did not realize this resource existed. Very nice to know! Say, I was going through my Conan the Adventure back issues, finished reading issue 1, then went on to 2, only to discover it was a reprint of CtB #2. Well, I was reading the synopses of the CtA series and realized there was an actual new story in CtA #2, so I checked another copy of the book I had, and there it was, the new (at the time) story. I re-checked the issue of that had the CtB #2 reprint and at the bottom of the first page, it indicated the issue as Conan Classic #2. Has anyone ever seen this error before? Yeah, the error is more common than the correct version. I have recounted my adventures trying to get a correct copy here on forums elsehwere. Essentially all of the copies form one of the printing plants (the one on the east coast that did the bulk of the print run) put the interiors to Conan Classic #2 into a Conan the Adventurer #2 cover and that was what Diamond and other distributors sent to comic shops in the eastern US, so it was virtually impossible for a while to get the actual story from CtA #2 in the eastern US until the advent of the internet and the correct copies had dispersed throughout comicdom. It wasn't an isolated mistake on a few copies, it was most of the print run of CtA #2. And it didn't sell well enough for Marvel to go back to press and make corrected copies to replace the other ones. -M Maybe it would have sold better if people had been given new material to read. I just read CtA #1 - and it was good to see Conan begin anew, with all the continuity cohesively merged into the new storyline. So sad to see the demise of the Marvel Conan, back in the mid-90's. How is the Darkhorse Conan doing sales wise? Does anyone know? |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 14, 2016 9:54:19 GMT -5
Yeah, the error is more common than the correct version. I have recounted my adventures trying to get a correct copy here on forums elsehwere. Essentially all of the copies form one of the printing plants (the one on the east coast that did the bulk of the print run) put the interiors to Conan Classic #2 into a Conan the Adventurer #2 cover and that was what Diamond and other distributors sent to comic shops in the eastern US, so it was virtually impossible for a while to get the actual story from CtA #2 in the eastern US until the advent of the internet and the correct copies had dispersed throughout comicdom. It wasn't an isolated mistake on a few copies, it was most of the print run of CtA #2. And it didn't sell well enough for Marvel to go back to press and make corrected copies to replace the other ones. -M Maybe it would have sold better if people had been given new material to read. I just read CtA #1 - and it was good to see Conan begin anew, with all the continuity cohesively merged into the new storyline. So sad to see the demise of the Marvel Conan, back in the mid-90's. I really would have loved to see SSoC and CtB continue, but frankly I really didn't much like CtA. The reboot aspect bothered me, as Conan as a youth was really a case of "been there, read that". The freshness of the early days was rarely recaptured (mostly in the Watkiss issues) and I really wanted to know what happened next, not what had ahppened ten years ago. The argument that younger readers would identify better with a younger hero was a little odd, since Conan usually looks and acts just the same way, whether he be 17 or 35. The few mini-series that followed CtA were also pretty underwhelming, and some caused continuity problems (as "The usurper" completely contradicted SSoC 49-52 and "Death covered in gold" seemed to forget that Conan and Jenna had already met again after CtB #11... in CtB #118). There was nothing broken with SSoC and CtB. It's a pity someone decided to fix them anyway. Sure, sales weren't that great... but hey, those numbers today would make publishers drool! According to Comichron, the estimated sales for Conan the slayer # 4 are in the mid 8,000. |
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Post by senatortombstone on Dec 14, 2016 13:22:19 GMT -5
Maybe it would have sold better if people had been given new material to read. I just read CtA #1 - and it was good to see Conan begin anew, with all the continuity cohesively merged into the new storyline. So sad to see the demise of the Marvel Conan, back in the mid-90's. I really would have loved to see SSoC and CtB continue, but frankly I really didn't much like CtA. The reboot aspect bothered me, as Conan as a youth was really a case of "been there, read that". The freshness of the early days was rarely recaptured (mostly in the Watkiss issues) and I really wanted to know what happened next, not what had ahppened ten years ago. The argument that younger readers would identify better with a younger hero was a little odd, since Conan usually looks and acts just the same way, whether he be 17 or 35. The few mini-series that followed CtA were also pretty underwhelming, and some caused continuity problems (as "The usurper" completely contradicted SSoC 49-52 and "Death covered in gold" seemed to forget that Conan and Jenna had already met again after CtB #11... in CtB #118). There was nothing broken with SSoC and CtB. It's a pity someone decided to fix them anyway. Sure, sales weren't that great... but hey, those numbers today would make publishers drool! According to Comichron, the estimated sales for Conan the slayer # 4 are in the mid 8,000. Forgive my ignorance, but is this a good figure? It doesn't rate too high overall, but Conan seems more niche than super-hero books. I don't know what all goes into the costs of producing comics, but it seems hard to imagine how a book can survive on such numbers. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 14, 2016 13:31:25 GMT -5
I really would have loved to see SSoC and CtB continue, but frankly I really didn't much like CtA. The reboot aspect bothered me, as Conan as a youth was really a case of "been there, read that". The freshness of the early days was rarely recaptured (mostly in the Watkiss issues) and I really wanted to know what happened next, not what had ahppened ten years ago. The argument that younger readers would identify better with a younger hero was a little odd, since Conan usually looks and acts just the same way, whether he be 17 or 35. The few mini-series that followed CtA were also pretty underwhelming, and some caused continuity problems (as "The usurper" completely contradicted SSoC 49-52 and "Death covered in gold" seemed to forget that Conan and Jenna had already met again after CtB #11... in CtB #118). There was nothing broken with SSoC and CtB. It's a pity someone decided to fix them anyway. Sure, sales weren't that great... but hey, those numbers today would make publishers drool! According to Comichron, the estimated sales for Conan the slayer # 4 are in the mid 8,000. Forgive my ignorance, but is this a good figure? It doesn't rate too high overall, but Conan seems more niche than super-hero books. I don't know what all goes into the costs of producing comics, but it seems hard to imagine how a book can survive on such numbers. It is by no means a great seller, but I don't think it's in the immediate cancellation range just yet. My guess is that Dark Horse recoups some of its money with the hardcovers and trade paperbacks, as these remain really good buys for people who aren't really into comic-books (unlike, say, a collected arc of Superman). |
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Post by jbruel0 on Feb 4, 2017 5:33:54 GMT -5
Holy cow...someone actually noticed that? That's been my project for ages now and it was really just an excuse to read all the stuff in order. I thought there were like four people on the planet that even knew about it...But yeah, I've been trying to get to it every day lately. Just to say that I continue reading this, now at n° 121 and noticed that n°117 seems corrupted: conan.wikia.com/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian_117In case you could correct it.... Thanks Jb |
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Post by ArizonaTeach on Feb 8, 2017 17:13:02 GMT -5
There's a reason for that...116 and 117 are out of the chronological order...after Thomas left in 115 and DeMatteis got rolling with 118, there was an adaptation of a Conan book-on-record thing. I've been pretty much going through them by Thomas's chronology from Conan Saga. Pre-Belit there are a TON of Savage Sword and other tales mixed in there so it bounces around a lot, but after it's a pretty straight run of Conan the Barbarian for awhile. And my god the DeMatteis stuff is garbage wrapped in refuse tied together with fish intestines. I jumped ahead to Conan the King to get the stench out for a bit while I try to get through the main book. When 116 and 117 come up in the chronology I'll get those in there.
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Post by jbruel0 on Feb 9, 2017 2:53:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification
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Post by docthompson on Feb 22, 2017 22:49:55 GMT -5
I miss the old 1970 Salvage Tales and Savage Sword of Conan.Most non Roy Thomas Conan comics stink.I tried to read Conan the Savage and its worse than the 1980' Conan comics.Leonard Carpenter just babels on and guy is Conan the Stupid.Even REH's worst is better than this.Please stop writing new Conan stories.And if you have try Prince Conan or grandpop Conan.There is way room there.
I'd someone talk about Kothar.Some says anything about him,other than he was just another Clonan.I only know the Marvel Conan adaption.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 23, 2017 8:41:55 GMT -5
I miss the old 1970 Salvage Tales and Savage Sword of Conan.Most non Roy Thomas Conan comics stink.I tried to read Conan the Savage and its worse than the 1980' Conan comics.Leonard Carpenter just babels on and guy is Conan the Stupid.Even REH's worst is better than this.Please stop writing new Conan stories.And if you have try Prince Conan or grandpop Conan.There is way room there. I'd someone talk about Kothar.Some says anything about him,other than he was just another Clonan.I only know the Marvel Conan adaption. Kothar was clearly created to cash in on Conan's popularity, but his adventures were certainly more entertaining than those of, say, Thongor. There were five paperbacks written by Gardner F. Fox (who is well-known in the comic-book field) : Kothar, barbarian swordsman (a series of short stories that include Kothar's "origin", and that first set him against the sorceress Red Lori) Kothar of the magic sword (more short stories) Kothar and the demon queen (a novel-length story in which the hero almost manages to get rich) Kothar and the conjurer's curse (that's the one adapted in Conan the barbarian #46-51) Kothar and the wizard slayer (in which the hero settles in with his erstswhile enemy Red Lori). The premise is very simple: Kothar is a wandering warrior who got his hands on an ancient sword (Frostfire) that acts as a talisman against magic. With the sword comes a caveat : whoever owns it can never own any other riches. Kothar is therefore always poor, but even if he bemoans his constant penniless status, he thinks his life of adventure is worth it. It's mindless (and harmless) sword-and-sorcery fun, with no pretension to literary greatness. It is nevertheless quite enjoyable, whereas other similar works (the aforementioned Thongor, for example) collapse under their own ponderous self-importance. |
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Post by elliotja on Mar 20, 2017 7:12:34 GMT -5
I like the adaptation of People in the Dark, but I reckon there are a few problems. The modern era scenes with Jim O'Brien state that Dagon's Cave, the ancient home of the little people, is located somewhere in the Scottish Lowlands, and the flashback with Conan shows that in the Hyborian Age it was quite near the Aquilonian fort of Venarium, on the southernmost edge of Cimmeria. But according to all the maps I've seen, Cimmeria's southern frontier extended more to northern England, so this is where Venarium and the cave would be, not the Scottish Lowlands. The story also mentions a large river near the cave that lead to the sea....what sea would this have been? In Conan's time there were no seas that near Cimmeria!
How can Jim O'Brien die at the end when he's recounting the adventure at some later date?
And as has already been mentioned, the little people apparently don't change much between Conan's day and the time of Bran Mak Morn, a little over ten thousand years (They were clearly first driven underground by the ancient Cimmerians and Hyborians, then rose again following the cataclysm that ended Hyboria for a while, only to be exiled again by the Picts sometime later), yet in the roughly two thousand years since Bran, they degenerate into creatures closer to real snakes. This is difficult to understand. Perhaps at some point after their experiences with Bran, they were the victims of some sorcerous curse?
The story is referenced later on in CtA, so I believe it carries some weight in the Marvel continuity.
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Post by elliotja on Mar 23, 2017 6:13:42 GMT -5
Regarding the Zingaran king in The Changeling Quest: Could he perhaps have married the daughter of King Fedrugo from CONAN THE BUCANNEER?
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