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Post by The Captain on Dec 5, 2018 7:41:07 GMT -5
A non-POTUS Donald J. Trump news item: MI, WI Republicans' Shameful Power PlayApparently, the Republicans in Michigan and Wisconsin are being sore losers after Democrats won the governor seats in both states last month. In the interest of "balancing power", Republican lawmakers in each state are ramrodding legislation through in the last four weeks of the year that will significantly limit the incoming governors (and attorney generals) from being able to make appointments, pass waivers, or do basically anything they said they would do in the elections. This is similar to what Republicans did in North Carolina a couple of years ago in a similar situation. This pathetic subversion of the election results shows just how bankrupt the Republican party is from an ethical standpoint. They can't gerrymander state-level elections, so if they lose, they just make it impossible for the democratically-elected Democrat to accomplish anything, then point to their failures in the next election campaign. I'm just curious why the "balance of power" wasn't an issue when there was a Republican governor in each state. I guess they didn't have time to worry about that while they were fighting gay marriage, working to limit abortions, and suing the government about the ACA, all while making sure the wealthy got more and more of the pie while those greedy poor people got the crumbs. |
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Post by impulse on Dec 5, 2018 9:46:31 GMT -5
I'm just curious why the "balance of power" wasn't an issue when there was a Republican governor in each state. I guess they didn't have time to worry about that while they were fighting gay marriage, working to limit abortions, and suing the government about the ACA, all while making sure the wealthy got more and more of the pie while those greedy poor people got the crumbs. Because they are lying.  The obvious abuse of power and party over country shenanigans are really getting old. I believe in NC that crap all got thrown out by a court at least, so I am hoping that happens here. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 5, 2018 11:16:54 GMT -5
A non-POTUS Donald J. Trump news item: MI, WI Republicans' Shameful Power PlayApparently, the Republicans in Michigan and Wisconsin are being sore losers after Democrats won the governor seats in both states last month. In the interest of "balancing power", Republican lawmakers in each state are ramrodding legislation through in the last four weeks of the year that will significantly limit the incoming governors (and attorney generals) from being able to make appointments, pass waivers, or do basically anything they said they would do in the elections. This is similar to what Republicans did in North Carolina a couple of years ago in a similar situation. This pathetic subversion of the election results shows just how bankrupt the Republican party is from an ethical standpoint. They can't gerrymander state-level elections, so if they lose, they just make it impossible for the democratically-elected Democrat to accomplish anything, then point to their failures in the next election campaign. I'm just curious why the "balance of power" wasn't an issue when there was a Republican governor in each state. I guess they didn't have time to worry about that while they were fighting gay marriage, working to limit abortions, and suing the government about the ACA, all while making sure the wealthy got more and more of the pie while those greedy poor people got the crumbs. See also North Carolina where there are also very credible indications of election fraud by Republicans. |
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Post by impulse on Dec 5, 2018 11:57:21 GMT -5
A non-POTUS Donald J. Trump news item: MI, WI Republicans' Shameful Power PlayApparently, the Republicans in Michigan and Wisconsin are being sore losers after Democrats won the governor seats in both states last month. In the interest of "balancing power", Republican lawmakers in each state are ramrodding legislation through in the last four weeks of the year that will significantly limit the incoming governors (and attorney generals) from being able to make appointments, pass waivers, or do basically anything they said they would do in the elections. This is similar to what Republicans did in North Carolina a couple of years ago in a similar situation. This pathetic subversion of the election results shows just how bankrupt the Republican party is from an ethical standpoint. They can't gerrymander state-level elections, so if they lose, they just make it impossible for the democratically-elected Democrat to accomplish anything, then point to their failures in the next election campaign. I'm just curious why the "balance of power" wasn't an issue when there was a Republican governor in each state. I guess they didn't have time to worry about that while they were fighting gay marriage, working to limit abortions, and suing the government about the ACA, all while making sure the wealthy got more and more of the pie while those greedy poor people got the crumbs. See also North Carolina where there are also very credible indications of election fraud by Republicans. IIRC supported by now at least two people confessing to illegally collecting absentee ballots on behalf of people where the absentee ballots appears to be where many of the irregularities have occurred. This is not an anti-right circle jerk. This is the news. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 5, 2018 14:29:12 GMT -5
See also North Carolina where there are also very credible indications of election fraud by Republicans. IIRC supported by now at least two people confessing to illegally collecting absentee ballots on behalf of people where the absentee ballots appears to be where many of the irregularities have occurred. This is not an anti-right circle jerk. This is the news. It's been said that reality has a liberal bias. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 16:05:23 GMT -5
It's been said that reality has a liberal bias. Makes sense. The natural order tends towards entropy and chaos...  |
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Post by impulse on Dec 5, 2018 16:18:17 GMT -5
It's been said that reality has a liberal bias. Makes sense. The natural order tends towards entropy and chaos... I... don't think the word liberal means what you think it does. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 16:25:07 GMT -5
Makes sense. The natural order tends towards entropy and chaos... I... don't think the word liberal means what you think it does. It was a joke...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 16:49:25 GMT -5
Watched the funeral service for George HW Bush. It was surreal as it was both personal (with GWB speaking) as well as the national aspects of a Presidential funeral. It was amazing to see the former presidents sitting together. I also like how the Bushes seem to have affection for their "rivals". Hard to see the WWII generation passing on. Interesting eulogies. Funny. Touching. Emotional. Loved the statement "hatred corrodes the container it's carried in".
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Post by impulse on Dec 5, 2018 18:04:16 GMT -5
I... don't think the word liberal means what you think it does. It was a joke...
As was mine, albeit poorly worded. I was going for something like this but botched the delivery.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 18:06:48 GMT -5
As was mine, albeit poorly worded. I was going for something like this but botched the delivery.
One of the limitations of "electronic" communication....
One of the reasons I prefer face to face communication with "sensitive" topics so you can read tone, body language, etc and get a better read on where the person is coming from. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 5, 2018 21:33:44 GMT -5
Signs of growth: North Korea expanding missile bases, China building more re-education internment compounds, and the U.S. starting work on new coal fired power plants! The future's so bright... (I gotta wear lead pants, a hammer & sickle badge and a hepa filter mask?)
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 6, 2018 0:59:24 GMT -5
So the Dow drops almost 800 points the third largest single-day drop ever. Guess who was President for the top two? The man with the really bad hairdo. He actually has five of the top ten one-day drops. George W. Bush has the other five. Now you can argue that the President has limited control over this sort of thing. You can argue that as long as you aren't arguing out the the other side of your mouth that he's the reason for a booming economy. Not that Trump supporters understand hypocrisy. But they could pretend. You could also argue that people voted for Trump so he'd run the country like his business'. And...he's certainly running it like all those failed businesses. To be fair... alot of that has to do with simple math.. the Dow has alot more points to lose.. a 3% drop in a day is big, but not Earth Shattering... Black Monday (in '87) was over 20%. I just went through a bunch of stuff on the thread, a few comments: - I'm sad that Transcendental Mental can't post something positive that Trump has done... when he was elected, I actually was hoping it'd turn out well... I mean, he used to be a Democrat, and he had no obvious strong views, so maybe compromises and work would happen? His antics were very concerning to me, sure, but I've never liked the Clintons at all. - I am glad that USMCA was signed.. since NAFTA is awesome for the economy. Neutral analysis of the agreement seems to indicate the changes are pretty minor. I know we've pulled back from an all out trade war with China, but having one with Canada and Mexico too was downright frightening. -I always find it laughable when a president takes credit or blame for recent economic trends. ALOT of Bill Clinton popularity and legacy were based on a booming economy. I'll grant he didn't mess up the internet boom (he certainly could have regulated it out of existence), but that's really not saying much. Trump seems to be working hard to end the gains and stimulus Obama used to end the last recession, yet people give him credit for job stats? how? - At this point with immigration I think it's clear that Trump has no plan or policy other than 'scare dumb people so they vote for me'. That whole 'invasion' thing was just insane (on both sides, really) -Bush's passing made me miss the days when there were actually 2 political parties that had idelogical differences, but still realized they were working for a common goal. Today we have only extremists that are willing to make our country worse if it makes their personal ideas and goals more popular. I think Bush may have been the last true Republican. (I guess maybe Dole counts... maybe) |
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 7, 2018 10:28:50 GMT -5
- I'm sad that Transcendental Mental can't post something positive that Trump has done...
It's not that I can't, there's just no point doing it with those who are "never Trumpers."
Oh, come on, Jez. That's running up the white flag, and you're better than that. You're excellent at fighting the good fight and defending a lonely outpost when it comes to comics. Give it a shot. |
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Post by impulse on Dec 7, 2018 11:09:16 GMT -5
It's not that I can't, there's just no point doing it with those who are "never Trumpers."
Oh, come on, Jez. That's running up the white flag, and you're better than that. You're excellent at fighting the good fight and defending a lonely outpost when it comes to comics. Give it a shot. Seriously, that is a total cop out. Put up or shut up. It reminds of the kid who brags about all sorts of things they can do on the playground, and when they are called on it says "I can do that. I just don't want to right now." Speaking only for myself, I try to be objective and evaluate the facts as they are. So, please, show me a source of something positive that is from a real source. It's really stressful feeling like everything the president does is actively making America worse. I for one would love something to break up the awful. |
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The obvious abuse of power and party over country shenanigans are really getting old. I believe in NC that crap all got thrown out by a court at least, so I am hoping that happens here. 
