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Post by impulse on Feb 14, 2019 17:20:17 GMT -5
I don't know enough about student loans to comment as I was miraculously able to complete undergrad and grad school without any, so I will pass on this one. A few thoughts. One, as I understand, the HQ2 was massively unpopular among New Yorkers, due in no small part to the, what, $3 Billion they were giving Amazon to subsidize it? So I imagine AOC's constituency is quite happy with her and it. Second, ironically the blowback from the Right has only served to elevate AOC. She's gotten a massive amount of free PR from them, and it only seems to help her among her supporters. I admit I don't watch as much MSM as I used to, but from what I see the MSM sees her as kind of an oddity and a little too big for her britches, so I doubt she needs to worry too much there. She also came out of nowhere and unseated a, what, six time incumbent? I don't remember. She is MASSIVLEY popular in her area and among her base, so I doubt she has anything to worry about in the short term. Maybe if she ever fancies a run for the presidency it might matter, but by the time she is old enough and that comes to pass, perhaps Millenials will be more a voting force? Turnout tends to rise with age, and the oldest millennials are pushing 40. I guess we will see. I just saw this, too. This will be immediately challenged in court and probably tossed out. Even if Kavenaugh and Gorsuch support it which I doubt, I don't think Roberts would be okay with the massive boost in executive power. Because if so, good lord, the next minute a Democrat president is sworn in get ready for a state of emergency to be declared for gun violence, climate change, etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 19:48:36 GMT -5
sorry, I just don't understand anyone who would support Trump over any other option at this point. he's proven time and again he's unfit, and the GOP has shown the entire world at this point, that the elected Representatives are selfish, hypocrites who only wish to hold onto power while they have it. so how can anyone state they are a Republican any more, when that equals Trump now?
it really saddens me that folks I thought were better than this, can sell out any humanity, or morality, to support what the GOP has now become.
Edit to be clear: and I'm not talking about anyone in this thread. . I don't participate enough in it to have an opinion on specific folks here, and those that I DO have an opinion on? well, I don't see their posts anyways (unless someone quotes them)
so just coming into the Politics thread to express my .. . sadness. . .(?). . over what i'm seeing in real life around me from some people I really liked and respected.
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 14, 2019 21:28:19 GMT -5
Well, he's just been caught out getting doctors to lie about his health, and even his height... how does that work legally? Meanwhile from Executive Time land he gets to tweet things about vaccinations causing autism in children! The President of the U.S. did that! Contrast that to how during the election campaign (October 2016) his friends at goofy-ass news for nitwits (National Enquirer) had this out on the stands and supermarket check-out lines... and that was okay? WTF? In a sane world that publication should've died decades ago from lack of enough people dumb enough to buy more than one or two, but this could really have had enough of an effect to get him within that million votes to squeak through and become the first orange/conspiracy-believer/racist/fascist-lover Pres...  Their other headlines during this time were "Hillary Clinton Brain-Cancer Drama!", "Hillary Caught In Sex Scandal Cover-Up!", and "Hillary: Six Months To Live!", oh and a confession about her being an alchoholic.... and we're supposed to be bent out of shape about Elizabeth Warren thinking she was more native than she was or Rachel Maddow reporting on actual things like a quality reporter? Yes, wakey wakey time can't come soon enough. Maybe this will do the trick? "These slogans must be repeated until every last member of the public understands what you want him to understand" - Adolph H. "Build that wall" "Lock Her Up" "Make America great again." - Don T. ('s Inferno) |
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 14, 2019 22:13:29 GMT -5
The other big fraud recently was that Trump was going to shutdown the government this second time. Never was... people got had again, including me. He was always going to sign, just wanted to build it up to receive praise for doing what he had to do all along in a situation only he created, and to pretend to have put up a 'fight' for the Hannity/Limbaugh/Coulter revolution crowd, plus to wear down resistance to the emergency funds thing. Oooh, "promises kept".  "National emergency"... for real, but not the phony distraction one about the usual poor people at the southern border. Meanwhile, Comrade Vladimir and Chairman Kim smile. |
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Post by impulse on Feb 15, 2019 10:17:28 GMT -5
The other big fraud recently was that Trump was going to shutdown the government this second time. Never was... people got had again, including me. He was always going to sign, just wanted to build it up to receive praise for doing what he had to do all along in a situation only he created, and to pretend to have put up a 'fight' for the Hannity/Limbaugh/Coulter revolution crowd, plus to wear down resistance to the emergency funds thing. Oooh, "promises kept". "National emergency"... for real, but not the phony distraction one about the usual poor people at the southern border. Meanwhile, Comrade Vladimir and Chairman Kim smile. I think you give him far too much credit and that he did not think far enough ahead to know what he was going to do until he did it, personally. |
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Post by impulse on Feb 15, 2019 11:49:41 GMT -5
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 15, 2019 15:23:09 GMT -5
He also admits that he didn't need to do it. It's not an "emergency" if you don't need to do it, Donald. It staggers my imagination what a situation we'd be in if Trump wasn't both incredibly stupid and unimaginably lazy. That statement..."I didn't need to do it" is gonna play really well in the inevitable court case coming out of this insanity.
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Post by impulse on Feb 15, 2019 16:14:35 GMT -5
He also admits that he didn't need to do it. It's not an "emergency" if you don't need to do it, Donald. It staggers my imagination what a situation we'd be in if Trump wasn't both incredibly stupid and unimaginably lazy. That statement..."I didn't need to do it" is gonna play really well in the inevitable court case coming out of this insanity. I saw that, too. It's stunning. It really is stunning how stupid he seems to be sometimes. As you say, I am glad he as it least as dumb as he is corrupt. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 16:18:10 GMT -5
he's counting on his Right Leaning Supreme Court pics to tilt the SCotUS in his favor.
he flat out admitted that in this same News Conference
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 15, 2019 17:07:36 GMT -5
he's counting on his Right Leaning Supreme Court pics to tilt the SCotUS in his favor. he flat out admitted that in this same News Conference I don't think that's a safe bet. Look at a number of the decisions coming out of the Court in the last six months or so. It's not unusual at this point to see Roberts siding with the left wing of the Court. Not always. But it's enough to be noticeable. Now I don't think that Roberts has completely changed his stripes. But I see evidence that he may not want to go down in history as the Chief Justice on whose watch democracy was euthanized in America. |
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Post by The Captain on Feb 15, 2019 17:10:52 GMT -5
He also admits that he didn't need to do it. It's not an "emergency" if you don't need to do it, Donald. It staggers my imagination what a situation we'd be in if Trump wasn't both incredibly stupid and unimaginably lazy. That statement..."I didn't need to do it" is gonna play really well in the inevitable court case coming out of this insanity. I saw that, too. It's stunning. It really is stunning how stupid he seems to be sometimes. As you say, I am glad he as it least as dumb as he is corrupt. He doesn't seem stupid. He IS stupid, and he's convinced a legion of people even more stupid than he is that he isn't. |
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Post by impulse on Feb 15, 2019 17:13:46 GMT -5
I saw that, too. It's stunning. It really is stunning how stupid he seems to be sometimes. As you say, I am glad he as it least as dumb as he is corrupt. He doesn't seem stupid. He IS stupid, and he's convinced a legion of people even more stupid than he is that he isn't. The devil better hope he has his jacket ready, because it must be freezing down in hell today. I agree with Ann Coulter on something. Ann Coulter says 'the only national emergency is that our president is an idiot' |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 15, 2019 17:26:16 GMT -5
Interestingly, I think that this declaration can easily serve as a litmus test for who is actually a principled conservative. Because it's very clear that Trump's inability to get his way (Mr. Art of the Deal) is in no way a National Emergency. He just said so himself. If "conservatives" are actually interested in small government and in separation of powers as set out in the Constitution then they aren't going to support this charade. So...we will see how many conservatives actually believe in what they say they believe in.
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Post by impulse on Feb 15, 2019 17:49:18 GMT -5
Interestingly, I think that this declaration can easily serve as a litmus test for who is actually a principled conservative. Because it's very clear that Trump's inability to get his way (Mr. Art of the Deal) is in no way a National Emergency. He just said so himself. If "conservatives" are actually interested in small government and in separation of powers as set out in the Constitution then they aren't going to support this charade. So...we will see how many conservatives actually believe in what they say they believe in. Hear hear. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 15, 2019 18:14:07 GMT -5
"May you live in interesting times" - the old Chinese curse.
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