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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 17:05:05 GMT -5
Well, yes. Maybe Ben Carson is right & the theory of evolution can be attributed to Satan.
I must admit I'd never considered that possibility. What a bad person I would be if I rejected his idea out of hand & harbored unkind thoughts about his supporters (one of whom I work with & was, in fact, sitting beside just a couple of hours ago).
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Post by shaxper on Sept 23, 2015 17:07:00 GMT -5
Well, yes. Maybe Ben Carson is right & the theory of evolution can be attributed to Satan. I must admit I'd never considered that possibility. What a bad person I would be if I rejected his idea out of hand & harbored unkind thoughts about his supporters Because of course that's what I'm suggesting. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 17:11:31 GMT -5
I was actually responding more to adam's statement that "it takes a lot for a person to look at what someone says and take it at least face valve when it's contradictory to already established beliefs." There are limits, & I for one would say -- at, admittedly, the risk of bruising the delicate sensibilities of the more sensitive among us -- that Dr. Carson & for that matter the estimable Mr. Trump have trod all over them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 17:14:54 GMT -5
Then again, I can't prove that the theory of evolution is not the handiwork of Satan.
What a dilemma.
(The cousin to whom I'm closest back home would probably agree wholeheartedly with Carson on that. We, uh, tend to stay away from matters of politics & religion.)
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Post by shaxper on Sept 23, 2015 17:22:55 GMT -5
I was actually responding more to adam's statement that "it takes a lot for a person to look at what someone says and take it at least face valve when it's contradictory to already established beliefs." There are limits, & I for one would say -- at, admittedly, the risk of bruising the delicate sensibilities of the more sensitive among us -- that Dr. Carson & for that matter the estimable Mr. Trump have trod all over them. And yet, for all the things Carson says that are disturbing, he makes some good points when discussing other topics. I think Adam's suggestions falls more along the lines of acknowledging that Carson has some viable points worth heeding, and that folks who support him aren't necessarily insane. They're just picking and choosing which aspects of his platform they relate to. Would I vote for Carson if he's saying the things you mentioned above? Of course not, but that doesn't necessarily mean he isn't making other points that I'd like to see other candidates adopt. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Sept 23, 2015 17:51:01 GMT -5
Well, yes. Maybe Ben Carson is right & the theory of evolution can be attributed to Satan. I must admit I'd never considered that possibility. What a bad person I would be if I rejected his idea out of hand & harbored unkind thoughts about his supporters (one of whom I work with & was, in fact, sitting beside just a couple of hours ago). I don't think he's right and I find that point laughable, but faced with that argument I would offer a clear, concise, respectful and well reasoned response. Even if it might do nothing to change his opinion I would want my opinions treated in a similar way so it's only fair that I afford the same courtesy to others. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 23, 2015 18:39:07 GMT -5
Well, yes. Maybe Ben Carson is right & the theory of evolution can be attributed to Satan. I must admit I'd never considered that possibility. What a bad person I would be if I rejected his idea out of hand & harbored unkind thoughts about his supporters (one of whom I work with & was, in fact, sitting beside just a couple of hours ago). On the plus side, it shows you can be a brain surgeon and have absolutely zero understanding of how science works. Which is pretty interesting. And lays rest to the idea that old saying that something "isn't brain surgery." So we've got that going for us. Now if we could find a rocket scientist who doesn't understand science. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 23, 2015 18:59:51 GMT -5
I was actually responding more to adam's statement that "it takes a lot for a person to look at what someone says and take it at least face valve when it's contradictory to already established beliefs." There are limits, & I for one would say -- at, admittedly, the risk of bruising the delicate sensibilities of the more sensitive among us -- that Dr. Carson & for that matter the estimable Mr. Trump have trod all over them. And yet, for all the things Carson says that are disturbing, he makes some good points when discussing other topics. I think Adam's suggestions falls more along the lines of acknowledging that Carson has some viable points worth heeding, and that folks who support him aren't necessarily insane. They're just picking and choosing which aspects of his platform they relate to. I also should have clarified better that my comment was more in regard to the posters here than any politicial statements in question. I applaud that as much as I read this thread and as little I participate (out of lack of knowledge not apprehension) that I don't see people disagreeing with such a polite batting average as here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 19:12:38 GMT -5
Well, yes. Maybe Ben Carson is right & the theory of evolution can be attributed to Satan. I must admit I'd never considered that possibility. What a bad person I would be if I rejected his idea out of hand & harbored unkind thoughts about his supporters (one of whom I work with & was, in fact, sitting beside just a couple of hours ago). On the plus side, it shows you can be a brain surgeon and have absolutely zero understanding of how science works. Which is pretty interesting. And lays rest to the idea that old saying that something "isn't brain surgery." So we've got that going for us. Now if we could find a rocket scientist who doesn't understand science. he could make a fortune putting his voice on a noise blocker. he IS rather soothing when he speaks..lulls you right off to Slumberland. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 23, 2015 19:32:56 GMT -5
Then again, I can't prove that the theory of evolution is not the handiwork of Satan. What a dilemma. (The cousin to whom I'm closest back home would probably agree wholeheartedly with Carson on that. We, uh, tend to stay away from matters of politics & religion.) That depends on what you mean actually. If he's saying the idea of evolution (as opposed to creationism) is the handiwork of Satan, that that can quite nicely be proven otherwise with scientific facts, which only the most ridiculous of close minded right wingers (mostly those who live in Texas) will deny. If, OTOH, he's saying that Satan planted all the scientific evidence of evolution to make us doubt the story of creation, then I got nothing, other than to point out that you could say that literally about anything you don't like. On another topic, the attention getting loon in Kentucky (whose name I can't be bothered to remember) is now saying all the marriage licenses she didn't sign 'aren't valid in the eyes of God'. Since she works for the state of Kentucky, I'm not sure why this is relevant... I really hope someone points this out to her, since it's really the main crux of the whole same sex marriage issue. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE PEOPLE. Learn it. It's a good thing. And why we're not Iran. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 23, 2015 19:35:35 GMT -5
Well, yes. Maybe Ben Carson is right & the theory of evolution can be attributed to Satan. I must admit I'd never considered that possibility. What a bad person I would be if I rejected his idea out of hand & harbored unkind thoughts about his supporters (one of whom I work with & was, in fact, sitting beside just a couple of hours ago). On the plus side, it shows you can be a brain surgeon and have absolutely zero understanding of how science works. Which is pretty interesting. And lays rest to the idea that old saying that something "isn't brain surgery." So we've got that going for us. Now if we could find a rocket scientist who doesn't understand science. Back when I used to manage a call center, I had this little old lady working for me.. she was, oh, about 62 or so, glasses, short permantly curly hair, brought in baked goods on occassion, etc... all the stereotype notes. Until one day when she noticed I was reading Heinlein and commented on it... then mentioned she was a retired Rocket Scientist. It blew my mind  This has nothing to do with politics, it's just a good story |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 11:32:53 GMT -5
Then again, I can't prove that the theory of evolution is not the handiwork of Satan. What a dilemma. (The cousin to whom I'm closest back home would probably agree wholeheartedly with Carson on that. We, uh, tend to stay away from matters of politics & religion.) That depends on what you mean actually. If he's saying the idea of evolution (as opposed to creationism) is the handiwork of Satan, that that can quite nicely be proven otherwise with scientific facts, which only the most ridiculous of close minded right wingers (mostly those who live in Texas) will deny. If, OTOH, he's saying that Satan planted all the scientific evidence of evolution to make us doubt the story of creation, then I got nothing, other than to point out that you could say that literally about anything you don't like. On another topic, the attention getting loon in Kentucky (whose name I can't be bothered to remember) is now saying all the marriage licenses she didn't sign 'aren't valid in the eyes of God'. Since she works for the state of Kentucky, I'm not sure why this is relevant... I really hope someone points this out to her, since it's really the main crux of the whole same sex marriage issue. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE PEOPLE. Learn it. It's a good thing. And why we're not Iran. Now, now. You're being rude. Remember: Even broken clocks are right twice a day (or at least were in the pre-digital era), & therefore we must keep them on our shelves. Or ... or something like that. |
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 24, 2015 15:44:58 GMT -5
I've been surprisingly impressed with Carson, to a point.
Carly Fiorina as well.
I wouldn't vote for either of them, but they've both come across fairly well.
Is Biden going to run ? My choice would be him or Bernie.
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Post by dupersuper on Sept 24, 2015 18:10:21 GMT -5
I think it's crazy Huckabee is doubling Christie. I think it's crazy that any one would vote for any of the Republican "candidates"... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 19:50:00 GMT -5
Well, yes. Maybe Ben Carson is right & the theory of evolution can be attributed to Satan. I must admit I'd never considered that possibility. What a bad person I would be if I rejected his idea out of hand & harbored unkind thoughts about his supporters (one of whom I work with & was, in fact, sitting beside just a couple of hours ago). I don't think he's right and I find that point laughable, but faced with that argument I would offer a clear, concise, respectful and well reasoned response. Even if it might do nothing to change his opinion I would want my opinions treated in a similar way so it's only fair that I afford the same courtesy to others. I disagree with the idea that all opinions and beliefs need to be respected. I'm of the opinion some actually deserve cruel and severe ridicule, and that those who hold those opinions should be shamed into never publicly sharing them. |
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