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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 10:59:57 GMT -5
Supposedly, they no longer use the "registered voter" system to pick jury members anymore, though I was summoned 5 years ago and lost a week's income being self-employed by serving my civic duty. I was glad to do it, but just sayin as a matter of fact. I'm a lifelong Democrat, and I agree with most of what Hillary has said, though I, like others, have some concerns about her. OTOH, I remember saying years ago, "Wouldn't it be great if someone like Bernie Sanders ran ? I'd vote for that guy in a minute." Most of what Hillary says I agree with, but, when Bernie talks, I cheer. It really comes from the heart. I suspect this race, on the Democratic side, will be neck and neck to the convention, however, the "super delegates" are going to lock it up for Hillary. If that happens, I'm a. going to leave the Democratic party and register as an Independent, and b. write in Bernie on Election Day. I no longer am going to vote pragmatically (the lesser of two evils), and am going to vote my conscious, and send my tiny little signal to TPTB that I want an alternative. I'm an independent myself and I can clearly see your point in this post. I do the same thing like you here. |
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 24, 2016 13:36:54 GMT -5
Sanders is stumping here in Tulsa today. The Oklahoma primary is March 1st. MSNBC has called Oklahoma a maroon state because of being so deeply red.
Candidate Obama carried none of the 77 counties here, and four years later President Obama also failed to carry any single county.
I will definitely cast my primary vote for Bernie Sanders.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 12:23:22 GMT -5
I like Hillary. I love Bernie. Despite what the Intelligentsia says, I think big changes are driven by big visions. Bernie has more of the same views that I have, and I cheer when he speaks. Before this election, I would've voted for Hillary being on the ticket, as being the better of the two mainstream candidates to pick from, but, I now follow my conscience, and am thinking long-term. By voting for Bernie, whether he's at the top of the ticket or not, I am broadcasting my single vote for who I truly think would be best, instead of voting for the middle of the road candidate who's to the left of the Republican. and potentially handing the election to the Right Wing nutjob who will benefit from your wasted vote. While Obama considers a Republican for the SCOTUS, what are the benefits of voting for a neoliberal again? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 14:07:10 GMT -5
Sanders is stumping here in Tulsa today. The Oklahoma primary is March 1st. MSNBC has called Oklahoma a maroon state because of being so deeply red.
Candidate Obama carried none of the 77 counties here, and four years later President Obama also failed to carry any single county. I will definitely cast my primary vote for Bernie Sanders. Or perhaps they meant "maroon" in the sense of Kidding, of course. Alabama is, if anything, worse. Y'all have Jim Inhofe; we have Roy Moore. *sigh* |
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 25, 2016 14:43:31 GMT -5
and potentially handing the election to the Right Wing nutjob who will benefit from your wasted vote. While Obama considers a Republican for the SCOTUS, what are the benefits of voting for a neoliberal again? Can we wait until he, ya know, actually nominates someone before answering? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 15:03:59 GMT -5
I suspect that Red Sox fans would prefer that Obama nominate Pablo Sandoval rather than Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval for the high court vacancy. Presumably, that would relieve the team from having to pay Panda to underperform while cosplaying as George R.R. Martin.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 16:05:54 GMT -5
While Obama considers a Republican for the SCOTUS, what are the benefits of voting for a neoliberal again? Can we wait until he, ya know, actually nominates someone before answering? My speculation is unreasonable but Bert's speculation that voting for anybody but Clinton will bring on the apocalypse isn't? |
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 25, 2016 16:43:00 GMT -5
Pragmatically, being in a maroon state, where the state hasn't carried any Democrat since LBJ in 1964, my vote doesn't really having a significant impact anyway.
The state, probably, is going to carry a Republican, so, I feel ok about voting Bernie and following my heart and not voting like back in Iowa where it's very, very split and would definitely be more directly felt.
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 25, 2016 16:43:20 GMT -5
Can we wait until he, ya know, actually nominates someone before answering? My speculation is unreasonable but Bert's speculation that voting for anybody but Clinton will bring on the apocalypse isn't? Uh ... I didn't say anybody's speculation was unreasonable. I asked a question. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 25, 2016 23:23:28 GMT -5
I suspect that Red Sox fans would prefer that Obama nominate Pablo Sandoval rather than Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval for the high court vacancy. Presumably, that would relieve the team from having to pay Panda to underperform while cosplaying as George R.R. Martin. And he would count as two seats. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 0:59:14 GMT -5
and potentially handing the election to the Right Wing nutjob who will benefit from your wasted vote. While Obama considers a Republican for the SCOTUS, what are the benefits of voting for a neoliberal again? only to point out what Hypocrites they are being. and never-mind that while he is Republican, this Governor is by far a moderate, more than a "Conservative" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 1:00:34 GMT -5
Can we wait until he, ya know, actually nominates someone before answering? My speculation is unreasonable but Bert's speculation that voting for anybody but Clinton will bring on the apocalypse isn't? NEVER even implied that, so stop putting lies in my mouth. In fact, I have very clearly, stated here that I have no issue voting for Sanders if he gets the nomination. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Feb 26, 2016 5:54:56 GMT -5
My speculation is unreasonable but Bert's speculation that voting for anybody but Clinton will bring on the apocalypse isn't? NEVER even implied that, so stop putting bullshit in my mouth. In fact, I have very clearly, stated here that I have no issue voting for Sanders if he gets the nomination. To be fair, you kinda implied it would be dangerous if Hillary Clinton didn't get the nomination and a vote for Sanders was a wasted one, not withstanding his qualities. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 11:09:22 GMT -5
NEVER even implied that, so stop putting bullshit in my mouth. In fact, I have very clearly, stated here that I have no issue voting for Sanders if he gets the nomination. To be fair, you kinda implied it would be dangerous if Hillary Clinton didn't get the nomination and a vote for Sanders was a wasted one, not withstanding his qualities. Nope. NEVER said that. Go read the context of my argument: if the vote is a write in for Sanders if Hillary gets the nomination -- then you are wasting your vote and splitting the results, handing a victory to the Republican crazies. I've been arguing all along for a UNITED vote on the Democratic side. a disagreement is fine, but one can't make an argument by ignoring the context of what was said -- that's BS and pisses me off. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Feb 26, 2016 11:34:46 GMT -5
Language, folks.
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