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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 10:21:48 GMT -5
Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput has echoed a burning indictment of Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, calling her a “scheming, robotic liar with a lifelong appetite for power and an entourage riddled with anti-Catholic bigots.” Perhaps the pro-Hellary entourage here can suggest he go eff himself too. As flawed as Trump is (honestly, grab me by the vagina and your fingers get broken) I look at Hellary and get the skeevies. Simply put, I do not like her. As I've got in-laws who are pro-Republican and a husband who is voting Republican, that's all to be said, carry on
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 17, 2016 10:41:14 GMT -5
I would fully expect a man like Charles Chaput to be opposed to Hillary Clinton, as she's in favour of abortion rights, contraception, gay marriage, and the separation of church and state. Like pope Pius XII, he's ready to get in bed with the worst of bedfellows to promote his medieval agenda. Props to him for sticking to his guns, I guess, but I hope most voters will realize that his view of the world is not shared by a whole lot of them. Re-opening Roe vs Wade? Really???
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 17, 2016 10:45:19 GMT -5
Hee hee. I like the way that anybody who doesn't fall for Trump's transparent foolishness is characterized as "lean(ing) towards the VERY left end of the spectrum."
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 17, 2016 10:52:44 GMT -5
Hee hee. I like the way that anybody who doesn't fall for Trump's transparent foolishness is characterized as "lean(ing) towards the VERY left end of the spectrum." It's all in the vantage point, I guess. When you're far to the right anything else looks like it's on the left. There is no real Left in the United States. The Dems are, at best, a centre-right party (if we compare to other countries). Heck, our own Canadian conservative party is farther to the left than the democrats are!
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 17, 2016 11:08:11 GMT -5
Did you see Trump tweeting that the SNL skit about the last debate was "rigging the election"?
Well! At least we know what he was talking about when he kept making vague comments about "rigging the election" all these months. Any time anybody uses the media to make fun of him or hurts his feelings, they are "rigging the election."
OMG! I'm "rigging the election" right now!
Our democracy is at stake, folks! So stop criticizing Donald Trump. Because that's "rigging the election."
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 17, 2016 11:25:47 GMT -5
What RR has said, so well, as usual, and also...
"Liking" a candidate has nothing to do with making a decision in favor of him or her. Politics ain't beanbag, as you probably have heard. On the other hand, people like this archbishop amd many others like him, are certainly quick to judge the canddiate they don''t like. "Ambitious?" Yes, let's find a candidate who is unambitious. Certainly he or she would be the kind of leader who can get things done.
And "the skeevies"? Really? Can you at least explain what policies, decisions, stands on the issues, character flaws, whatever, make you opposed to her candidacy? That's fine for chit-chatting, but when you start talking politics in a forum like this, you could be somewhat more specific instead of telling other posters what to do.
And I'm delighted that you would break Trump's fingers were he to have attempted to molest you but the problem is that one individual's reactions can't be extrapolated or generalized.
Bring the facts, not the feelings. There ain't no Santa, the earth revolves around the sun, and elections ain't about choosing your Savior.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 11:30:30 GMT -5
Bring the facts, not the feelings. There ain't no Santa, the earth revolves around the sun, and elections ain't about choosing your Savior. Is Hellary your saviour? Some nice points here. Of course, you can then say the New York Post is anti-Hillary...but then, I can't find an ounce of fairplay in the New York Times either.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 17, 2016 11:45:05 GMT -5
I read most of that NY Post article before I got bored with how much nothing there is in it.
I can't help but notice the way that Trump's supporters make a big deal out of how he "tells it like is" when he says racist and misogynistic things, but Hillary is a horrible person and a demon when she criticizes Catholic leadership.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 17, 2016 11:46:24 GMT -5
And of course, because people prefer Hillary to Trump, she must be our saviour.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 11:58:06 GMT -5
And of course, because people prefer Hillary to Trump, she must be our saviour. She's still under 50%...for someone who's been around for some 30 years that's not a ringing endorsement.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 17, 2016 12:06:46 GMT -5
And of course, because people prefer Hillary to Trump, she must be our saviour. She's still under 50%...for someone who's been around for some 30 years that's not a ringing endorsement. Well, it's not surprising when you consider the number of people who will believe a lot of stupid nonsensical childish lies repeated over and over by angry shouty white men for that same thirty years. You know. Like the childish slander that she laughed at a teenage rape victim. People who will believe gibberish like that will believe anything uncritically.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 17, 2016 12:17:16 GMT -5
And of course, because people prefer Hillary to Trump, she must be our saviour. She's still under 50%...for someone who's been around for some 30 years that's not a ringing endorsement. Actually, I'm surprised that someone who's been in politics for so long manages to score so high! Most politicians have a sharp upward popularity curve when they hit their stride and then go down and down for the rest of their career. Even Churchill got booted out after winning WWII! Now it's true, Hillary isn't very popular. I'm sure a "normal" Republican candidate (say, McCain) would have a pretty good chance of trouncing her at the polls. However, she's demonstrated she has the chops for the job and she has one great, great quality in this election: she's not Donald Trump. I trust her to handle the ship of state with competence, if nothing else. Trump just hasn't demonstrated any leadership quality, and his oft-repeated populist speeches lambasting Latinos, Blacks, Women, Liberals, Transnational accords and now even the very American electoral system make him a very scary candidate indeed. Far from a unifier, he's the personification of the divisive leader: he's even managed to cause a rift within his own party, mere weeks before the election. Bush was awful, but I fear Trump would be even worse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 12:19:39 GMT -5
Well, it's not surprising when you consider the number of people who will believe a lot of stupid nonsensical childish lies repeated over and over by angry shouty white men for that same thirty years. Back in 2008, Obama himself said Hillary will do anything to get elected. (broken video link)And now it seems others will do anything to plaster her every sore to make it happen.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 17, 2016 12:21:10 GMT -5
Here's video of Trump repeating this childish lie:
(expired video link)
Despicable.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 17, 2016 12:32:22 GMT -5
I'm not real clear on why it's so shocking that Obama would be critical of Hillary when she was his opponent in the 2008 primary. I still prefer the candidate that didn't brag about being a serial groper and boasted about abusing his fame, celebrity and power to force himself on numerous women. And then couldn't think of anything else to say except shout "LIAR!" when they came out of the woodwork to confirm his confession.
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