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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 1, 2016 20:16:15 GMT -5
I'd actually like to know, Jez, how any woman can support Trump when he's so clearly a misogynist... you don't think that will color his governance any? Did you ask that same question about Bill Clinton? Or would you ask Hillary that question on why she stayed married to him?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 1, 2016 20:20:52 GMT -5
I'd actually like to know, Jez, how any woman can support Trump when he's so clearly a misogynist... you don't think that will color his governance any? Did you ask that same question about Bill Clinton? Or would you ask Hillary that question on why she stayed married to him? Absolutely! Bill Clinton made one and one only key decision when he was president that allowed him to be beloved for years.. he stayed out of the way of the development of the internet... which let to the massive economic prosperity that many liberals like to credit to him. I sure didn't vote for him. Granted, some great presidents were not particularly loyal to their wives, but Clinton obviously too it to a new level... just think how many things we don't know about, based on the number of things we do. I also agree 100% that the fact Hillary stayed married to him proves her to either have no self esteem or (much more likely) a completely ruthless nature that was willing to have a sham marriage for her political career. Neither is very positive.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 1, 2016 20:33:40 GMT -5
I much more a fan of Teddy Roosevelt that FDR, to be honest.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Nov 1, 2016 20:59:43 GMT -5
Interesting fact, his first wife died on Valentine's Day, the same day as his mother died in the same house. Before or after? Or was it literally the same day in the same house? If not, that might be two facts.
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Post by tingramretro on Nov 2, 2016 1:44:01 GMT -5
The British were so proud of their fish 'n chips they served them wrapped in old newspapers. Or maybe that was the way to be disrespectful to The Sun? I'm still trying to figure out the ketchup vs catsup controversy What on Earth is catsup? Sounds like cat vomit!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 2, 2016 7:11:49 GMT -5
Chips vs crisps? Catsup vs ketchup? I give you the snack of contention!
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 2, 2016 8:53:23 GMT -5
The British were so proud of their fish 'n chips they served them wrapped in old newspapers. Or maybe that was the way to be disrespectful to The Sun? I'm still trying to figure out the ketchup vs catsup controversy What on Earth is catsup? Sounds like cat vomit!
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Post by berkley on Nov 2, 2016 11:33:55 GMT -5
The tricky part of the question is, though, that the UK needs closer ties to Europe precisely to counter that overwhelming US influence. The language barrier will always help the Brits maintain their cultural independence from the rest of Europe. And the UK would be a major player in Europe while it can only ever be a junior partner at best in relation to the US. Canada's in a similar but even worse predicament, since without the advantages enjoyed by the UK: no Europe next door to counter-balance American cultural domination, no long, deeply established history and tradition to bolster its own unique identity, not even a strongly distinguished difference in accent (though the difference does exist, subtle though it may be). We're pretty much screwed. Time for us all to switch to French, berk! O Canada, Terre de nos aïeux... (pompopom) The French factor is one of the few things we have going for us, which is one more reason why the knee-jerk anti-French feelings of many anglophone Canadians is so disheartening.
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Post by berkley on Nov 2, 2016 11:41:35 GMT -5
The tricky part of the question is, though, that the UK needs closer ties to Europe precisely to counter that overwhelming US influence. The language barrier will always help the Brits maintain their cultural independence from the rest of Europe. And the UK would be a major player in Europe while it can only ever be a junior partner at best in relation to the US. I totally disagree. I don't see why we should ever be a "junior partner" to anyone, or indeed need to be a "partner" of any kind to anyone. Britain doesn't need either the EU or the US, and putting itself in a position where it believed it did was precisely where we went wrong. And what "language barrier"? Most of Europe speaks English as a second language anyway! That's more a problem for them than for you, though. The UK isn't about to be swamped be a deluge of French and German movies and tv shows and pop music any time soon. But the fact that most of their citizens know English as a second language leaves them vulnerable to the same overwhelming American cultural influence as English-speaking countries.
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Post by Pharozonk on Nov 3, 2016 11:08:25 GMT -5
y I love this guy.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 3, 2016 12:07:21 GMT -5
Had a dream last night that the election was finally over Then I woke up to a nightmare
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 3, 2016 12:53:37 GMT -5
y I love this guy. It would be nice if people would look beyond his support for legalizing marijuana. Because his policies are almost universally absurd and he's just not very damn smart at all.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 3, 2016 13:01:46 GMT -5
y I love this guy. It would be nice if people would look beyond his support for legalizing marijuana. Because his policies are almost universally absurd and he's just not very damn smart at all. Slam got that right. You'd think the Libertarian party would field a halfway decent alternative candidate. But no, it's another extremely flawed clown. With these choices to steer the country for the next 4 years, no wall with Mexico could stop me from fleeing
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Post by Pharozonk on Nov 3, 2016 13:18:03 GMT -5
It would be nice if people would look beyond his support for legalizing marijuana. Because his policies are almost universally absurd and he's just not very damn smart at all. Slam got that right. You'd think the Libertarian party would field a halfway decent alternative candidate. But no, it's another extremely flawed clown. With these choices to steer the country for the next 4 years, no wall with Mexico could stop me from fleeing There wasn't much to choose from on their end this year though. Ron Paul was out of the picture. Austin Petersen was too much of a young upstart for the party and was rejected. John McAfee's criminal record would get the party Trump-ed in seconds. Johnson, though deeply flawed, was their only way of appealing to moderate voters this year it seems unfortunately.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 3, 2016 13:34:35 GMT -5
The thing is, with any third party, they need to start at the grassroots level and work their way up. How about trying to elect some mayors and city council members and county commissioners and sheriffs who can then move up the ladder and establish a base. Even state legislators.
Instead, there is no movement at the base, but just a steady stream of dilettantes and disgruntled ex-major-party members and policy wonks grabbing for the brass ring with zero base.
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