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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 9, 2016 0:18:39 GMT -5
Dow Futures are down 1000 points. The Tokyo, Hong Kong and Singapore markets are way down. This isn't just an American disaster...it's potentially a world-wide disaster.
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Nov 9, 2016 0:25:25 GMT -5
The American people have voted in a lunatic, bigot, irrational lying psychopath. God help the immigrants. My wife said, "Nothing changes for us." but it changes for others the bottom rung and that's the rung that matters measure yourself and your society by how you treat the most vulverable Captain, do you truly believe that President Trump is going to help the least of us ? This will be somewhat incindiary, but, if Jesus were forced to pull the lever for one or the other, do you truly believe He would have voted Trump ? Thank you. It changes things for soooooo many others. Republicans will control all 3 branches of government. All the broodmares and unwomen that will be. Minorities are screwed. LGBT folks effed. This is The Worst.
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Post by Confessor on Nov 9, 2016 0:29:06 GMT -5
America, America...what have you done?
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Post by The Captain on Nov 9, 2016 0:31:37 GMT -5
The American people have voted in a lunatic, bigot, irrational lying psychopath. God help the immigrants. My wife said, "Nothing changes for us." but it changes for others the bottom rung and that's the rung that matters measure yourself and your society by how you treat the most vulverable Captain, do you truly believe that President Trump is going to help the least of us ? This will be somewhat incindiary, but, if Jesus were forced to pull the lever for one or the other, do you truly believe He would have voted Trump ? I'll unpack your post piece by piece: 1. I disagree with you on the "rung that matters" point. All the rungs matter. When we start deciding which rungs are important or matter more than others, we get class warfare, which is one of the reasons for this likely outcome. There are a lot of folks in this country who are tired of being told that certain lives matter or that they are deplorable or that their views, be those views political, religious, or otherwise, are "wrong" by folks who claim to be smarter or more enlightened or better, and Donald Trump was able to successfully channel that anger into his campaign. 2. No, President Trump isn't going to help "the least of us", but honestly, I doubt President Clinton would have done much either. She's too cozy with Wall Street and her cronies in Washington from her 30+ years there to really "care" about those at the bottom. 3. No, He probably wouldn't have voted for Trump, but all you're doing with this questions is raising the "giant douche vs. turd sandwich" argument. Both of the candidates were flawed, one beyond measure but the other not terribly far behind, so sure, if Jesus had to pick one of them, He most likely would have picked Hillary, but picking the slightly-less unattractive option out of two ugly ones isn't really making a choice, is it?
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 9, 2016 0:43:00 GMT -5
Respectfully, and I mean that, we are voting for humans. They're flawed and imperfect. Who will do the better job for the most Americans ?
If you believe in trickle down economics, where the monied upper class will take care of their under class, then I point you to the Industrial Age.
When the lowest class rises, we all rise.
That is one of the biggest differences between Conservative & Progressive.
Is government the Greater Level Who Can Do What No One Else Can Do (yes) or the Big Brother Taking Your Money and Is Stupidly Wasteful and Oppressive ?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 9, 2016 0:43:34 GMT -5
Thought we were screwed which ever way it went but with Trump as president, i have 2 hopes First, he's not as much as a reactionary loon as his rhetoric during the campaign, that he was playing hard for the conservative Republican base. From what I remember of him back in the 1980s and 1990s he did have some liberal tendencies. Second, he hasn't made many allies within the Republican party and certainly not with the Dems so he'll have a tougher time with Congress than is usual for a newly elected President I can see Obama giving Hillary a blanket pardon before he leaves office for any crimes she may had committed, much like Ford gave to Nixon
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 0:43:55 GMT -5
I have a friend of mine that live in Vancouver B.C. and he work for Canadian Immigration and he informed me that his website crashes several times tonight because many Americans wants to move to Canada because of this election. I know many people that has dual citizenship that are seriously thinking of dropping their US Citizenship and moving to Canada permanently after this election.
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Nov 9, 2016 0:46:37 GMT -5
I keep trying to think of ways this might not suck so badly.
But, uh, yeah, no. I just keep remembering ways in which this is never not going to be The Worst.
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Post by coke & comics on Nov 9, 2016 1:10:54 GMT -5
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 9, 2016 1:25:04 GMT -5
If I were single, I would probably be moving north.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 1:38:56 GMT -5
Pity that the same groundswell of support for Trump out there has only translated to a one-girl show in this place.
It's one of the reasons I left CCF about 6 months ago, I felt all alone in my political conviction so to speak, and the Trump bashing was a bit hard to bear. Still is.
This will be my last post in this thread, but I'll give you guys and girls a little space, I think I need to be with the happy crowd.
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Post by Warmonger on Nov 9, 2016 2:00:12 GMT -5
Pity that the same groundswell of support for Trump out there has only translated to a one-girl show in this place. It's one of the reasons I left CCF about 6 months ago, I felt all alone in my political conviction so to speak, and the Trump bashing was a bit hard to bear. Still is. This will be my last post in this thread, but I'll give you guys and girls a little space, I think I need to be with the happy crowd. I guess more of us deplorables showed up to the booths than initially expected.
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Post by Warmonger on Nov 9, 2016 2:13:28 GMT -5
And now Hillary isn't going to concede?
Oh the irony...
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Post by Confessor on Nov 9, 2016 2:16:36 GMT -5
Pity that the same groundswell of support for Trump out there has only translated to a one-girl show in this place. It's one of the reasons I left CCF about 6 months ago, I felt all alone in my political conviction so to speak, and the Trump bashing was a bit hard to bear. Still is. This will be my last post in this thread, but I'll give you guys and girls a little space, I think I need to be with the happy crowd. I guess more of us deplorables showed up to the booths than initially expected. What's interesting is that, based on the exit poll results, a lot of people clearly went in and voted Trump, but came out and said they'd voted Clinton. The reasons why that happened are undoubtedly complex, but it's a sure thing that some of those people just felt that they might be attacked or vilified for admitting that they voted that way. Kinda makes me wonder whether there are more Trump supporters in the forum here than you might think.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 9, 2016 2:38:26 GMT -5
Pity that the same groundswell of support for Trump out there has only translated to a one-girl show in this place. It's one of the reasons I left CCF about 6 months ago, I felt all alone in my political conviction so to speak, and the Trump bashing was a bit hard to bear. Still is. This will be my last post in this thread, but I'll give you guys and girls a little space, I think I need to be with the happy crowd. Be that as it my, I tip my cap to both you and Warmonger to have the courage to speak up about what you believed in with a rational manner. The rhetoric against Trump for the last year on this thread has been overwhelming and vehement. Some comments were even scarier than Trump's I usually root for the underdog (with the exception of the NY Yankees) so my sympathies on a purely non-political personal level was with you. Plus Razormaid showed some class with that little contest she held. Bravo to her. Let the losers vent for now. I'm sure they (and I) are quite shocked with the outcome and are behaving in the manner they expected the defeated Republicans would have acted
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