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Post by Lolatadatodo on Dec 10, 2016 18:08:20 GMT -5
Here's hoping it will be defeated. Allowing proper sex education and easy access to contraception would have a better effect on reducing the number of abortions than this kind of ideologically-driven curtailing of individual freedom. Funny how the people who claim to be so very against the idea of abortion are always the ones fighting tooth and nail to restrict those things, too. Why, you'd almost think their real agenda was to control women's sexuality, and use it as a weapon against them. The Handmaid's Tale.
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Dec 10, 2016 19:36:56 GMT -5
No, you are not a stupid crybaby. <3 And you are NOT responsible for getting this thread locked before. It's okay. I've embraced it.You cannot embrace what you are not.♡
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Post by Gene on Dec 10, 2016 22:39:39 GMT -5
Seems appropriate.
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 11, 2016 4:20:47 GMT -5
Man.... you wake up happy and cuddling, and then you check the news to see 60 people died in a collapsed church in Nigeria, lethal terrorist bombings in Istanbul and Mogadishu, and Trump considering a close Putin ally for Secretary of State.
What times we live in...
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Dec 11, 2016 11:14:33 GMT -5
I am so confused as to why posts, since Pip's, were deleted? I came in to quote and participate in the discussion, but the posts were deleted.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 11, 2016 12:57:05 GMT -5
I am so confused as to why posts, since Pip's, were deleted? I came in to quote and participate in the discussion, but the posts were deleted. Two of those messages were incredibly inflammatory and combative, so they were deleted by the mods and the poster responsible disciplined. The third message was deleted by its author because it quoted the original, rule breaking post. I'm not prepared to go into more detail than that. It's a matter between the moderating team and the poster in question.
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 11, 2016 13:20:02 GMT -5
Hmm... Feels more restrictive than it used to be here.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 11, 2016 13:51:58 GMT -5
Hmm... Feels more restrictive than it used to be here. It's significantly more combative and personal than it used to be here. I'm not leaving myself out of that equation, because the election did not bring out the best in me. But it has been noticeably different...and not in a good way.
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Post by Pharozonk on Dec 11, 2016 13:58:29 GMT -5
Hmm... Feels more restrictive than it used to be here. People are taking things too personally on both sides though. At least the thread isn't being outright locked again.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 11, 2016 16:02:59 GMT -5
Hmm... Feels more restrictive than it used to be here. People are taking things too personally on both sides though. At least the thread isn't being outright locked again. Its why I don't post in here much. My opinion being voiced isn't worth loosing a friend. Ever.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 11, 2016 17:26:26 GMT -5
Hmm... Feels more restrictive than it used to be here. The joke being that the reason these issues have become so explosive is that the mod team waited as long as possible to take action on shutting this stuff down, pip. You clearly weren't there for the whole thing, which has been brewing for weeks now. This isn't about LGBQT, women's rights, Donald Trump, or any other issue; it's about persons calling other members out publicly and combatively over perceived transgressions instead of following the appropriate and civil procedure of FIRST bringing it to the attention of the mod staff so that we can address it (or, if the member is so inclined, civilly pming the member his/herself). We have a structure in place precisely to keep things from getting this out of hand, and when members take it upon themselves to publicly wage wars and serve vendettas in our community, that's when they get silenced and it begins to feel restrictive. As always, anyone who has an issue with another member (including the mod staff) should take it up with the mod staff using the reporting tool, not to preserve our egos, but rather to preserve the peace. Many many members contacted us, upset over what has been transpiring here, most of whom weren't even directly involved. The members involved who have now been disciplined were served incredibly polite warnings numerous times before we got to where we are this weekend. A person can be completely correct in their argument and completely incorrect in how and where they choose to express that argument, and when they continue to violate our rules and ignore our warnings, in favor of continuing to publicly call out members in a fashion that can only lead to hurt feelings and greater antagonism, then it's time to get more restrictive. We have rules for a reason. No more public discussion on this. Consider that an official warning to anyone reading this.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Dec 11, 2016 18:39:26 GMT -5
Let's start over then, in a spirit of togetherness:
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 12, 2016 12:09:37 GMT -5
So, how about them Oilers?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 12, 2016 12:17:45 GMT -5
Let's start over then, in a spirit of togetherness: Seeing Kermit, I imagined Jill Stein singing "it's not easy being green"!
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Post by The Captain on Dec 12, 2016 12:30:39 GMT -5
So, how about them Oilers? You'll seriously bring up a topic like that here? Geez, the nerve of some people!
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