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Post by Confessor on Jan 11, 2017 23:37:27 GMT -5
I tell you what, after watching Obama's thoughtfully composed and eloquently delivered farewell address live on TV last night [snip] Which I'm certain was written by speech-writers, thoroughly planned in advanced, entirely scripted, all Obama had to do was go up there and act it out. That's true enough, up to a point, although the BBC coverage said that Obama had written the speech himself and had been working on it for quite some months. But still, I've never seen any U.S. president - Republican or Democrate - handle himself in such an erratic and wired way as Trump did in that press conference. And that's kinda my point: Trump doesn't act very "presidential". He seems slightly unhinged. Watching Obama being so thought-provoking and calm last night, has thrown Trump's "mania" (for want of a better word) into sharp relief.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jan 11, 2017 23:55:46 GMT -5
I really think that Donald Trump has been taken over by the spirit of George Steinbrenner (former owner of the NY Yankees baseball team for those outside this country).
He'll be passionate, he'll be divisive, he'll speak/tweet before thinking. He'll deliver some championship moments, he'll deliver some embarrassing moments.
He will call Korea's Kim Jong Un a "fat pussy toad"
What's the over/under on the amount of vice presidents he hires and fires?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jan 11, 2017 23:57:13 GMT -5
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jan 11, 2017 23:58:39 GMT -5
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 11, 2017 23:59:02 GMT -5
I tell you what, after watching Obama's thoughtfully composed and eloquently delivered farewell address live on TV last night [snip] Which I'm certain was written by speech-writers, thoroughly planned in advanced, entirely scripted, all Obama had to do was go up there and act it out. Not the same as an unscripted press conference with your regularly scheduled CNN plant.
For which he's had no time to prepare at all, the poor dear... As the President-elect would say, "Sad." What's the over/under on how long he lasts as president? A year? 18 months?
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Post by the4thpip on Jan 12, 2017 10:47:30 GMT -5
The hate for Trump keeps flowing in this thread...I'm starting to think this board is an arm of the DNC. Is the wah-wah going on for another 4 years? The same people harping on Trump over and over....ridiculing his every move, yet he's President-Elect and a billionaire...not bad for such a 'simpleton'.... Should I add even more people to my ignore list? Defeats the purpose of having fun on the rest of the board...although I'm really wondering if any Republican who supports Trump really feels comfortable here. I know I don't. Can only imagine what happens the day he gets sworn in. I think the old Jez will be retiring.... Keep on hating dudes. I think there are very legitimate non-partisan reasons to be extremely worried and critical of the President Elect. I don't hate or even dislike all Republicans, nor do I like and support all Democrats. This is different, and it's going to get discussed in a politics thread. So long as criticism of the President Elect remains in this thread, why is there a need to ignore anyone or leave the community? If you don't want to hear opposing viewpoints, then this probably isn't a thread to hang out in. When people criticize Obama, I don't take it personally and I don't feel the need to tune out as a result. Yes, there seem to be a lot more liberals than conservatives here, but does that really mean we can't all be friends? If you don't want to hear the talk, avoid the thread, not the person. As somebody who had family members locked up by the actual Nazis, and who is part of a minority that was sent to the concentration camps by the Nazis, I cannot even consider being friends with a Trump supporter. He has demonstrated racist attitudes again and again, he refused to properly distance himself from the KKK endorsement, and he put neonazis like Bannon into his inner circle. Cannot even consider it.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 12, 2017 10:54:16 GMT -5
I think there are very legitimate non-partisan reasons to be extremely worried and critical of the President Elect. I don't hate or even dislike all Republicans, nor do I like and support all Democrats. This is different, and it's going to get discussed in a politics thread. So long as criticism of the President Elect remains in this thread, why is there a need to ignore anyone or leave the community? If you don't want to hear opposing viewpoints, then this probably isn't a thread to hang out in. When people criticize Obama, I don't take it personally and I don't feel the need to tune out as a result. Yes, there seem to be a lot more liberals than conservatives here, but does that really mean we can't all be friends? If you don't want to hear the talk, avoid the thread, not the person. As somebody who had family members locked up by the actual Nazis, and who is part of a minority that was sent to the concentration camps by the Nazis, I cannot even consider being friends with a Trump supporter. He has demonstrated racist attitudes again and again, he refused to properly distance himself from the KKK endorsement, and he put neonazis like Bannon into his inner circle. Cannot even consider it. I have family that was killed by Nazis, and I can be friends with a Trump supporter. Trump is not Hitler; comparing the two only invalidates otherwise legitimate claims against him. He preaches some intolerance and empowers the intolerant, but his rhetoric against Islam is nothing compared to Hitler's against the Jews, and we've seen no evidence of his planning to exterminate an entire religion from the face of the planet via systemized detainment and execution. Intolerance is not state execution. Intolerance is wrong and needs to be opposed, but not through invalid comparisons.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 12, 2017 10:59:29 GMT -5
I'm still extremely pro-Obama. All sane humans are. Wry comment.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 12, 2017 11:03:54 GMT -5
Anyone who wants to believe that everyone of a certain political leaning is either evil or insane is practicing the very same intolerance they are fighting against.
There, I said it.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 12, 2017 11:10:24 GMT -5
Anyone who wants to believe that everyone of a certain political leaning is either evil or insane is practicing the very same intolerance they are fighting against. There, I said it. Yeah, but satire often depends on hyperbole. I'll go back and put a "wry" emoji-con at the end of the statement.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 12, 2017 11:11:29 GMT -5
Anyone who wants to believe that everyone of a certain political leaning is either evil or insane is practicing the very same intolerance they are fighting against. There, I said it. Yeah, but satire often depends on hyperbole. I'll go back and put a "wry" emoji-con at the end of the statement. Satire is a tricky thing via the internet, and especially in a politics thread
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 12, 2017 11:12:55 GMT -5
Yeah, but satire often depends on hyperbole. I'll go back and put a "wry" emoji-con at the end of the statement. Satire is a tricky thing via the internet, and especially in a politics thread I'll load up on emojifaces. It's going to be a busy four years.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 12, 2017 11:15:41 GMT -5
Satire is a tricky thing via the internet, and especially in a politics thread I'll load up on emojifaces. It's going to be a busy four years. Personally, I see more wisdom in being this guy: than this guy: but to each their own.
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Post by the4thpip on Jan 12, 2017 11:16:38 GMT -5
Anyone who wants to believe that everyone of a certain political leaning is either evil or insane is practicing the very same intolerance they are fighting against. There, I said it. That's saying that insanity and evil do not exist. Um... where do you live, and how much is a ticket there?
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Post by shaxper on Jan 12, 2017 11:17:16 GMT -5
Anyone who wants to believe that everyone of a certain political leaning is either evil or insane is practicing the very same intolerance they are fighting against. There, I said it. That's saying that insanity and evil do not exist. That's not even close to what I just said.
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