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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 27, 2015 14:25:06 GMT -5
As to Kerry being a "coward for only serving two tours in Vietnam", I think anyone who served honorably in any war is incredibly brave and deserving of, at the very least, respect. Whether they're John Kerry, John McCain, or any of the millions of others who aren't on the public stage.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 27, 2015 14:34:23 GMT -5
If it wasn't for Hoosier X, I'd have no idea who Ted Cruz was. Is it possible Hoosiers actually working for Ted's campaign and this is just some brilliant reverse psychology scheme?
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 27, 2015 15:10:32 GMT -5
I wish I had no idea who Ted Cruz was. Or Huckabee, or Trump, or Walker, or.... I wish I'd never heard of any of them.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 27, 2015 15:50:18 GMT -5
Hadn't heard about that. Always thought that Huckabee was nuts, but there are no words for that. It saddens me that most of these people are or were in positions of power. I'm not surprised you hadn't heard about it. The mainstream media is all over every crazy thing that Donald Trump says. But a lot of the stupid things that most of the other contenders say gets scant coverage.
You heard all about his comments about McCain, dismissing his Vietnam service. And you also heard about, for example, Jeb Bush calling out Trump for being so disrespectful to Vietnam veterans.
But I bet you didn't see the letter that Jeb Bush sent to the leaders of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, thanking them for their "courage" in taking on John Kerry, who was called a coward because he "only" served two tours of duty in Vietnam.
The GOP contenders for the nomination constantly say all kinds of terrible things like Huckabee's "oven" statement. I see these stories on progressive news blogs, but the mainstream media ignores a lot of it and what they don't ignore, they marginalize it and let it disappear pretty quickly.
Looks like Reuters is reporting on it now: Huckabee |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 18:25:53 GMT -5
The chairman of the RNC wants all candidates to sign a pledge to not run as independents if they don't get nominated. I imagine it would have been rude to only ask Trump
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Post by Action Ace on Jul 27, 2015 19:05:52 GMT -5
If it wasn't for Hoosier X, I'd have no idea who Ted Cruz was. Is it possible Hoosiers actually working for Ted's campaign and this is just some brilliant reverse psychology scheme? My campaign donations were spent on buying Hoosier X volumes of DC Showcases.  |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 28, 2015 0:07:57 GMT -5
Today on facebook, the folks running Hillary's campaign asked the question: "If you could have dinner with Hillary, what one person would you bring as a guest?" The top response? Bernie Sanders |
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Post by berkley on Jul 28, 2015 1:44:08 GMT -5
And Ted Cruz said that the Obama Administration will become the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism.It's a meme that Trump is crazier than the other GOP candidates. It's a very transparent and lazy meme that is very easy to disprove. I think the danger posed by Trump isn't so much that he might win the nomination but that he makes all the other Republican candidates look relatively moderate and reasonable by way of contrast. I'll have to disagree with this.
As evidence I present ... the other Republican candidates.
Let's start with Huckabee ... Obama on Huckabee's Hitler comments: "Ridiculous if it weren't so sad"
(Huckabee, commenting on the recent anti-nuclear deal with Iran, said that Obama "will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven." Of course, the other Republican candidates leaped to Obama's defense and castigated Huckabee for being shrill and ... No, wait. They didn't do anything like that.)
yeah, that's what I was trying to say - not that the other nut-cases actually are sane in comparison to Trump, but that Trump's outrageousness is so paraded in the media that the public perception will be influenced by the meme you cite. Easy to disprove - but if the dis-proof doesn't get covered, the damage is done. |
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Post by dupersuper on Jul 28, 2015 3:23:54 GMT -5
How is it that Wil Wheaton gets eaten by a shark but Ann Culter and Michelle Bachman survive their sharknado? Just asking...
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 29, 2015 8:39:37 GMT -5
My parents, life-long Dems, who campaigned for Kennedy (Mom) and Carter (Dad) back in '80 in Iowa, attended a Hillary fundraiser recently.
I line up with her on most of the issues, but I don't completely trust her, or like her, and the e-mail scandal set me off. Benghazi is disturbing as well.
For a while, up until pretty recently, I was willing to look at Jeb, but a couple of things he's said has scotched that for me.
Win or lose, I'm supporting Bernie.
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Post by the4thpip on Jul 29, 2015 15:37:55 GMT -5
The only truly disturbing thing about Benghazi is that Republicans are politicizing that tragedy even after the GOP led investigation found no wrongdoing by either Clinton or Obama.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 29, 2015 16:58:51 GMT -5
The only truly disturbing thing about Benghazi is that Republicans are politicizing that tragedy even after the GOP led investigation found no wrongdoing by either Clinton or Obama. You have to get used to Republican logic. The fact that no wrongdoing was found only proves that there was a coverup. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 17:12:41 GMT -5
The emails are another non issue to me. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I don't think the Clintons are behind anything nefarious. I think the REAL issue is Hillary's economic policy essentially mirroring the GOP, but with a veneer of progressiveness to it to appease voters. She wants the minimal amount of reform possible to still be considered a Democrat but also still get those SuperPAC's to dump millions into her campaign. And unfortunately, a lot of the Democratic party is the same. Their social issues I love, their economic issues are not fixing things. A constitutional amendment ending corporate personhood and outlawing Citizens United should be high on on the agenda of any Democratic representative.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 31, 2015 15:35:48 GMT -5
The only truly disturbing thing about Benghazi is that Republicans are politicizing that tragedy even after the GOP led investigation found no wrongdoing by either Clinton or Obama. You have to get used to Republican logic. The fact that no wrongdoing was found only proves that there was a coverup. And the apparatchiks on Fox are already pushing Michael Bay's upcoming movie about the attack as if it's a documentary. You remember Bay, who also set us straight on the truth about Pearl Harbor and the Doolittle mission. Scrupulous in his attention to detail. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 16:21:38 GMT -5
I think Sanders has already caused Clinton's campaign to veer left due to his unexpected popularity. Not as far left as he is, but better than what I expected from her. Also, regarding the talk a while back about early front runners not always getting the nomination, I had never even heard of Barrack Obama until he started gaining steam in his campaign in 2008
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