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Post by dupersuper on Oct 14, 2015 19:25:30 GMT -5
Absolutely For those people that think there's no difference between both parties, I would simply point them to YouTube to look at the debates. I'm a lifelong Democrat, however, this e-mail thing is not inconsequential, and unlike previous elections, I'm not voting Democrat as the lesser of two evils. One way or another, I'm voting Sanders, whether I'm "throwing my vote away" or not. in the General Election, when the Nominee is Hillary, I hope you will still go out and vote. This Country can NOT afford a Republican President and whom he will appoint to the Supreme Court. As some one from another country, I'll second the "vote for who ever is not the Republican candidate" suggestion. You guys are scaring us... |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 14, 2015 21:46:37 GMT -5
The Wall Street Journal killed me today with their Bernie nay saying: 5 words that prove why Bernie won't be President "No. I'm a Democratic Socialist"
It goes on to say capitalism is looked upon much more favorably than socialism, and how that will damn him in the end...but the data it presents doesn't support that premise, or at least not as strongly as the writer would have us believe. They point to a pew survey that said 50% of Americans held favorable views on Capitalism with 40% holding negative views and in the same breath present a gallop poll that said Socialism had 47% positive view and a 50% negative view. So while the divide closer with Socialism both ideologies are pretty much 50/50, and with that kind of data how do you then say it's a fatal flaw?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 22:46:06 GMT -5
The Wall Street Journal killed me today with their Bernie nay saying: 5 words that prove why Bernie won't be President "No. I'm a Democratic Socialist"
It goes on to say capitalism is looked upon much more favorably than socialism, and how that will damn him in the end...but the data it presents doesn't support that premise, or at least not as strongly as the writer would have us believe. They point to a pew survey that said 50% of Americans held favorable views on Capitalism with 40% holding negative views and in the same breath present a gallop poll that said Socialism had 47% positive view and a 50% negative view. So while the divide closer with Socialism both ideologies are pretty much 50/50, and with that kind of data how do you then say it's a fatal flaw? because most Americans are stupid and don't have any desire to seek Knowlege. they will hear Socialist, and not vote for him. yes, yes, you have facts that say otherwise above, but "facts" don't mean much to most of today's Americans unfortunately. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 15, 2015 9:56:43 GMT -5
The Wall Street Journal killed me today with their Bernie nay saying: 5 words that prove why Bernie won't be President "No. I'm a Democratic Socialist"
It goes on to say capitalism is looked upon much more favorably than socialism, and how that will damn him in the end...but the data it presents doesn't support that premise, or at least not as strongly as the writer would have us believe. They point to a pew survey that said 50% of Americans held favorable views on Capitalism with 40% holding negative views and in the same breath present a gallop poll that said Socialism had 47% positive view and a 50% negative view. So while the divide closer with Socialism both ideologies are pretty much 50/50, and with that kind of data how do you then say it's a fatal flaw? because most Americans are stupid and don't have any desire to seek Knowlege. they will hear Socialist, and not vote for him. yes, yes, you have facts that say otherwise above, but "facts" don't mean much to most of today's Americans unfortunately. The poll question was specifically would you elect a socialist with 47 % of respondents replying positively. Now that might not actually carry over to the polls but to be all doom and gloom and then present that poll in the same breath is just dishonest reporting. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 15, 2015 10:46:44 GMT -5
because most Americans are stupid and don't have any desire to seek Knowlege. they will hear Socialist, and not vote for him. yes, yes, you have facts that say otherwise above, but "facts" don't mean much to most of today's Americans unfortunately. The poll question was specifically would you elect a socialist with 47 % of respondents replying positively. Now that might not actually carry over to the polls but to be all doom and gloom and then present that poll in the same breath is just dishonest reporting. And that surprised you coming from the wall Street Journal why?  |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 15, 2015 11:14:02 GMT -5
The Wall Street Journal killed me today with their Bernie nay saying: 5 words that prove why Bernie won't be President "No. I'm a Democratic Socialist"
It goes on to say capitalism is looked upon much more favorably than socialism, and how that will damn him in the end...but the data it presents doesn't support that premise, or at least not as strongly as the writer would have us believe. They point to a pew survey that said 50% of Americans held favorable views on Capitalism with 40% holding negative views and in the same breath present a gallop poll that said Socialism had 47% positive view and a 50% negative view. So while the divide closer with Socialism both ideologies are pretty much 50/50, and with that kind of data how do you then say it's a fatal flaw? because most Americans are stupid and don't have any desire to seek Knowlege. they will hear Socialist, and not vote for him. yes, yes, you have facts that say otherwise above, but "facts" don't mean much to most of today's Americans unfortunately. As demonstrated by the popularity of the Trump. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 15, 2015 16:17:36 GMT -5
The poll question was specifically would you elect a socialist with 47 % of respondents replying positively. Now that might not actually carry over to the polls but to be all doom and gloom and then present that poll in the same breath is just dishonest reporting. And that surprised you coming from the wall Street Journal why? The bias? No, I'd expect an Op Ed there to focus on the positives of capitalism but to do so while in the same breath they offer evidence that disproves their opinion? It's just plain dishonest reporting. |
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Post by the4thpip on Oct 18, 2015 6:08:49 GMT -5
So now Trump is pointing out that 9-11 happened during Bush's presidency, something Republicans have been in denial about. Will be interesting to see if this gets traction to widen the rift between Trumpers and the GOP establishment.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 19, 2015 8:11:46 GMT -5
So now Trump is pointing out that 9-11 happened during Bush's presidency, something Republicans have been in denial about. Will be interesting to see if this gets traction to widen the rift between Trumpers and the GOP establishment. I'm confused. Is there some dispute that Bush's term included the year 2001? Or is Trump just showing off that he's learned how to use a calendar? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 8:15:44 GMT -5
From earlier posts here, I gather it's considered unforgivably rude to point it out.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 19, 2015 8:30:54 GMT -5
From earlier posts here, I gather it's considered unforgivably rude to point it out. That's odd since Bush himself couldn't stop talking about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 9:52:13 GMT -5
Sibling rivalry.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 19, 2015 10:00:07 GMT -5
Apparently the first issue of Sam Wilson: Captain America that just came out last week is pissing off the Fox news network. Apparently it features the Sons of the Serpent group as the bad guys who are trying to stop immigrants at the Mexico border. Since this group has been racist and anti-foreigners from the beginning, this isn't really surprising. I guess it's striking a little to close to home for Fox's comfort. Makes me glad I bought it, though I haven't read it yet.
Foxgoes nuts again. |
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Post by dupersuper on Oct 20, 2015 5:31:16 GMT -5
How can Fox News go nuts "again"? They've never come back from nuts...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 8:51:29 GMT -5
You're being rude. I think we're supposed to say, with regard to Fox News, that "They've always aired reports & commentary that I consider grounds for fruitful, respectful discussion," preferably -- of course -- with Kumbaya playing in the background.
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