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Post by MDG on Aug 22, 2021 10:04:15 GMT -5
I wonder if the Thing's orange skin could have originally been due to a colourist's error or perhaps a simple random choice made in the absence of any editorial instruction? It seems like an odd choice for the rock-like monstrosity he was - how many orange rocks are there? Not zero, but it isn't exaclty the first colour that comes to mind when you think of rocks, stones, boulders, or what have you. The original concept of the thing was "dinosaur skin," not rocks, so orange kind've makes sense. Also, visibility trumped realism in coloring at the time. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 22, 2021 12:38:00 GMT -5
Thunderbolt Ross does not exactly inspire confidence. There are all sorts of lines like this F4 line across Hulk for years, especially at that 'milksop' Banner. Never mind that the dude is making like the most powerful weapon for the govt, he's a wuss. T-bolt does not really get a-hold of any 'feelings' really until the early 70s when Jim Wilson joined the title and he felt bad that Betty finally totally lost her marbles. Ross is a textbook narcissist. Unless someone exactly mirrors his personality (blustering, uber-macho soldier) they’re beneath his contempt. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 22, 2021 12:54:33 GMT -5
Fantastic Four #12 “The Fantastic Four Meet the Incredible Hulk” Written by Stan Lee Pencils by Jack Kirby Inks by Dick Ayers Letters by Art Simak  Cover: (Kirby/Ayers) It's another gray cover. So very gray. At least this time it makes sense since they're underground. To the good, the Thing and the Hulk do kind of pop out. But the lack of action isn't much of a selling point. See any of about a hundred Joe Kubert covers for how to make this kind of scene look dynamic.  |
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Aug 22, 2021 13:45:09 GMT -5
Thunderbolt Ross does not exactly inspire confidence. There are all sorts of lines like this F4 line across Hulk for years, especially at that 'milksop' Banner. Never mind that the dude is making like the most powerful weapon for the govt, he's a wuss. T-bolt does not really get a-hold of any 'feelings' really until the early 70s when Jim Wilson joined the title and he felt bad that Betty finally totally lost her marbles. I've been going through Hulk from 102 on the last few months (having read the original series and a good chunk of Tales to Astonish years ago) and I cant believe they kept Ross and his Hulk-hating obsession such a focal point of the series for soooooooo long. Yes, the character is softened a bit in the early 70s, but the repetition of it all can be mind-numbing. The Hulk mag in general was prone to being pretty static even compared to your average Marvel or DC book (random alien villains, Hulk/Banner globe trotting, the Leader in every 5th or so issue, etc) but dear God are the copy and paste Ross/Talbot/Betty scenes nearly every issue, year after year, such a drag on the title. I'm going to finish up Englehart's run and I'm not sure when I'll resume. I kinda want to at least finish Trimpe's run but that may be a while down the line. I collected Hulk around 82-83 and by then Ross had been somewhat phased out IIRC. When did that finally happen? |
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Post by badwolf on Nov 9, 2021 18:52:10 GMT -5
Sue keeps referring to Johnny as The Torch which is weird. He's her little brother. She calls Reed by name. Odd. What struck me as I've been reading the omnibus is how they all call Ben "Thing." It's quite rude! Ben does call them out for it once, and I think afterwards they started using his given name more. |
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Post by badwolf on Nov 9, 2021 18:58:59 GMT -5
The plot…well the less you think about it the better. Beyond the silliness of M.M.’s schemes and actions…there is the fact that his powers simply can’t work as they’re depicted. If he’s a master of mass hypnosis The Monster doesn’t actually move. It can’t actually reach into a bank and steal a million in gems. And one atomic tank is going to allow him to take over the world…yeah. Maybe that was part of the hypnosis as well, but how does it work on people who are only watching events on the telly? |
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Post by badwolf on Nov 9, 2021 19:33:27 GMT -5
Apparently Simonson felt it necessary to bring back Thug Thatcher. I have no idea why. To be fair, he was killed off in the same issue. |
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Post by badwolf on Nov 9, 2021 19:42:26 GMT -5
We are introduced to Iron Man in a cover that honestly doesn’t look that different from the monster mag covers from which ToS is transitioning. I just can’t see this one jumping off the cover at anyone. The splash is really just a second cover…actually maybe a bit more interesting than the one we got. And we get the sobriquet Invincible Iron Man. Even though I'm pretty sure I already knew WHO Iron Man was by the time I read this in Son of Origins of Marvel Comics, I still felt that tug of mystery from the cover. Bit odd but I like it. |
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