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Post by Rob Allen on Jun 7, 2017 15:56:14 GMT -5
Just wondering. In the very early days of Marvel, circa 1963 when Stan was writing everything, who was the first writer he hired to help take the load off of him? Not counting Larry Leiber. I'm interested in this time period, so I went thru the GCD's Marvel credits for 1961-63, and the first script credit by someone other than Stan or Larry is Robert Bernstein's script for the Iron Man story in Tales of Suspense #40, cover date April 1963, on sale Jan. 10, 1963. Bernstein also scripted the Human Torch story in Strange Tales #108, cover date May 1963, on sale Feb. 12, 1963, and the Thor story in Journey Into Mystery #92, cover date May 1963, on sale Mar. 5, 1963. Bernstein was presumably moonlighting from his regular job scripting Superman family stories for Mort Weisinger.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 7, 2017 16:55:32 GMT -5
Just wondering. In the very early days of Marvel, circa 1963 when Stan was writing everything, who was the first writer he hired to help take the load off of him? Not counting Larry Leiber. I'm interested in this time period, so I went thru the GCD's Marvel credits for 1961-63, and the first script credit by someone other than Stan or Larry is Robert Bernstein's script for the Iron Man story in Tales of Suspense #40, cover date April 1963, on sale Jan. 10, 1963. Bernstein also scripted the Human Torch story in Strange Tales #108, cover date May 1963, on sale Feb. 12, 1963, and the Thor story in Journey Into Mystery #92, cover date May 1963, on sale Mar. 5, 1963. Bernstein was presumably moonlighting from his regular job scripting Superman family stories for Mort Weisinger. He was writing The Fly and The Jaguar for Archie around this time, too. Cei-U! I summon the busy boy!
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jun 12, 2017 17:58:27 GMT -5
Why are sales of Jungle Action #5 (a reprint of Avengers #62) selling for much more than its original issue?!?!?! Do people not know Man-Ape's first appearance was in Avengers #62? This is one of a few reprints I can think of that seems to be outselling the original because of the recent trailer.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 12, 2017 19:14:21 GMT -5
Why are sales of Jungle Action #5 (a reprint of Avengers #62) selling for much more than its original issue?!?!?! Do people not know Man-Ape's first appearance was in Avengers #62? This is one of a few reprints I can think of that seems to be outselling the original because of the recent trailer. Wow, I'll take your word for it. That's crazy.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 12, 2017 22:13:46 GMT -5
Why are sales of Jungle Action #5 (a reprint of Avengers #62) selling for much more than its original issue?!?!?! Do people not know Man-Ape's first appearance was in Avengers #62? This is one of a few reprints I can think of that seems to be outselling the original because of the recent trailer. Probably scarcer, though it is backward logic. It might have been easier to come by, before, than the Avengers issue would have; then, things changed. Quite frankly, the internet has really skewed collector prices for a lot of things, not just comics. Paperback books have gotten screwy for some collectible titles, especially ones that used to go for a couple of bucks, 10 or 15 years ago.
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Post by MWGallaher on Jun 13, 2017 15:11:18 GMT -5
Why are sales of Jungle Action #5 (a reprint of Avengers #62) selling for much more than its original issue?!?!?! Do people not know Man-Ape's first appearance was in Avengers #62? This is one of a few reprints I can think of that seems to be outselling the original because of the recent trailer. I don't think it has anything to do with Man-Ape. It's selling because this was the first comic ever published with Black Panther as the headline feature. We know it's "really" an Avengers story, but it was marketed as the first in a series of Black Panther solo stories. In the original appearance, he was "just" one of the Avengers, getting the spotlight for one story.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jun 14, 2017 18:15:11 GMT -5
Still...a reprint!
I do like the Jungle Action cover a bit more though. And again, prior to the movie news, this book was not a big deal. I get people piling on his first appearance and even his first series that Kirby did. Technically, this does predate that but not at the same times since it is a repackaging of an older story. I guess it is kind of unique in that regard.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jun 15, 2017 10:25:21 GMT -5
Approximately-How many comics are there in a "ton of comics"?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 15, 2017 10:46:36 GMT -5
Approximately-How many comics are there in a "ton of comics"? Are you including 80-page giants. Prestige format books? Hardcover graphic novels? Newspaper comics pages? There isn't enough information to answer this question.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 15, 2017 11:00:15 GMT -5
Approximately-How many comics are there in a "ton of comics"? However...the interweb wants to tell me that floppies weight 1.8 ounces. Given that's true there would be roughly 8.9 funnybooks to a pound. So 17,800 funnybooks to a ton. But those are modern comics.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 11:19:08 GMT -5
How much did ads help in the past at keeping the cover price down?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jun 15, 2017 11:29:49 GMT -5
Approximately-How many comics are there in a "ton of comics"? Are you including 80-page giants. Prestige format books? Hardcover graphic novels? Newspaper comics pages? There isn't enough information to answer this question. Floppies only but that can include Annuals and prestige paper stock. I understand paper stock weight has fluctuated over the course of years so I'm asking about a random assortment of all types that you might find in a long box. On average a long box holds how many comics? 500? How much would the long box, on average, weigh? How many long boxes make a ton?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jun 15, 2017 11:34:23 GMT -5
How much did ads help in the past at keeping the cover price down? Ad rates that publishers asked were based on how large they claimed their readership was. So ad rates charged varied significantly from publisher to publisher, from decade to decade. But regardless of that, I always read that the bulk of profits came from actual sales
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 15, 2017 11:57:56 GMT -5
How much did ads help in the past at keeping the cover price down? Ad rates that publishers asked were based on how large they claimed their readership was. So ad rates charged varied significantly from publisher to publisher, from decade to decade. But regardless of that, I always read that the bulk of profits came from actual sales Yep. My understanding is that comics are very unusual in the periodical business in that way. Most periodicals have been a method to convey advertisements and the ads made up most of the profitability of a magazine. Comics were one of the few periodicals that relied largely on sales for their income. I think most of the pulps were in the same boat.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jun 15, 2017 12:05:56 GMT -5
Ad rates that publishers asked were based on how large they claimed their readership was. So ad rates charged varied significantly from publisher to publisher, from decade to decade. But regardless of that, I always read that the bulk of profits came from actual sales Yep. My understanding is that comics are very unusual in the periodical business in that way. Most periodicals have been a method to convey advertisements and the ads made up most of the profitability of a magazine. Comics were one of the few periodicals that relied largely on sales for their income. I think most of the pulps were in the same boat. Part of the problem with comics advertising was the age of the readership. The bulk of the readership was perceived to be about 15 years old and younger. Therefore, they had no real "buying power" of their own and can only whine to their mummies and daddies to buy for them what was advertised. Of course, if enough of them bought Daisy rifles and organized into gangs things could have been different
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