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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 10:06:23 GMT -5
Is there a standard time frame for licenses to run, e.g Marvel’s licence with G.I. Joe, DC Comics’ licence with He-Man, etc?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 29, 2020 10:46:20 GMT -5
Is there a standard time frame for licenses to run, e.g Marvel’s licence with G.I. Joe, DC Comics’ licence with He-Man, etc? Whatever the contract says. It's going to vary depending on the negotiations and the needs of the parties and the popularity of the property. Marvel's license for Godzilla was for two years and was not extended at the end of that licensing period resulting in 24 monthly issues. But there's no standard time frame other than it's almost always going to be in increments of 12 months.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 14:21:58 GMT -5
Thanks, Slam!
I wanted to know because there have been some licensed comics (UK and US) that I have got attached to, but they’ve ended abruptly. I don’t want to be privy to such things for any nosey purposes, but I like to know so that I can have an idea of how many issues I’m gonna get.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 14:31:53 GMT -5
Is there a standard time frame for licenses to run, e.g Marvel’s licence with G.I. Joe, DC Comics’ licence with He-Man, etc? Whatever the contract says. It's going to vary depending on the negotiations and the needs of the parties and the popularity of the property. Marvel's license for Godzilla was for two years and was not extended at the end of that licensing period resulting in 24 monthly issues. But there's no standard time frame other than it's almost always going to be in increments of 12 months. And sometimes it is the publisher who chooses to end the license as well. Licenses increase overhead and reduce margins for publishers because of the fees, so they have to sell more than a non-licensed title to be as profitable as that title, and sometimes the license doesn't sell well enough to meet profit expectations so the publisher chooses not to renew the license as well. It's also why top tier talent is not as common on some licenses as publishers try to manage costs by using creators with lower page rates to offset licensing costs. -M
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Post by zilch on Jun 29, 2020 19:34:43 GMT -5
Just wondering if anybody knows of a checklist or database of artwork "job numbers"? I know that DC used them, as well as some other publishers. But I'll be darned if I can figure out a method to the madness when it comes to the numbering schemes. I know that some entries on GCD contain job numbers as entered from the book itself, but has anybody compiled a list of them that references specific artists? Okay... here's what i know... (don't get settled, its not a lot!)
Marvel job numbers originally ran from 1-10000, then switched to a letter (A-Z) followed by a number (1-1000?) At some point during the period of just numbers, different editors used their initials at the front such as Stan Lee was SL-XXX, Don Rico was R-XXX, ect. I don't know of any other editors off hand, but i'm sure there are some more. Fantastic Four #1 job number was V-372 and Iron Man's first appearance in Tales of Suspense #39 was X-51, also the number designation for Machine Man!
Over at DC, it was the case of the initial of the editor (or some other designation, Kanigher was R, Kubert was K and Kirby was X) and a number.
Job numbers are handy tools for comic historians, placing when the particular piece was produced versus when it was printed. Marvel's several down-sizing over the '40s and '50s can be traced by job number.
For more on this kinda stuff, visit the Atlas Tales webpage.
-z
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 29, 2020 19:53:35 GMT -5
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Post by tartanphantom on Jun 29, 2020 21:19:15 GMT -5
Okay... here's what i know... (don't get settled, its not a lot!) Marvel job numbers originally ran from 1-10000, then switched to a letter (A-Z) followed by a number (1-1000?) At some point during the period of just numbers, different editors used their initials at the front such as Stan Lee was SL-XXX, Don Rico was R-XXX, ect. I don't know of any other editors off hand, but i'm sure there are some more. Fantastic Four #1 job number was V-372 and Iron Man's first appearance in Tales of Suspense #39 was X-51, also the number designation for Machine Man! Over at DC, it was the case of the initial of the editor (or some other designation, Kanigher was R, Kubert was K and Kirby was X) and a number. Job numbers are handy tools for comic historians, placing when the particular piece was produced versus when it was printed. Marvel's several down-sizing over the '40s and '50s can be traced by job number. For more on this kinda stuff, visit the Atlas Tales webpage. -z
Thanks! That gives me more than I knew!
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Post by junkmonkey on Jun 30, 2020 9:03:24 GMT -5
And for finding where reprints originated. I posted somewhere hereabouts about British Allan Class reprints which republished stories from different American publishers (Marvel, Carlton, DC) all in one volume. I can't find the post - because I really can't get the search tool here to work properly - but in the post I linked to a comic database that had work numbers as a searchable field.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 30, 2020 12:38:50 GMT -5
I have a question about licensing , which property has been licensed the most to different comic companies? I think the Shadow has been in 4 different comic publishers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 12:52:17 GMT -5
I have a question about licensing , which property has been licensed the most to different comic companies? I think the Shadow has been in 4 different comic publishers. Not sure which has the most, but there ar eothers who have been at as many or more than the Shadow. Micronauts have been at 4 as well, Marvel, Image, Devil's Due Productions and IDW. Flash Gordon has been at Western (Dell/Gold Key/Whitman), DC, Marvel, Arrden, Dynamite, and others as well. Phantom at Western, Charlton, Marvel, DC, Dynamite, Hermes and others internationally as well.
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Post by tartanphantom on Jun 30, 2020 12:54:35 GMT -5
I have a question about licensing , which property has been licensed the most to different comic companies? I think the Shadow has been in 4 different comic publishers. Not sure which has the most, but there ar eothers who have been at as many or more than the Shadow. Micronauts have been at 4 as well, Marvel, Image, Devil's Due Productions and IDW. Flash Gordon has been at Western (Dell/Gold Key/Whitman), DC, Marvel, Arrden, Dynamite, and others as well. Phantom at Western, Charlton, Marvel, DC, Dynamite, Hermes and others internationally as well. Tarzan is another one that has been 'round the block a few times.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 13:02:04 GMT -5
Not sure which has the most, but there ar eothers who have been at as many or more than the Shadow. Micronauts have been at 4 as well, Marvel, Image, Devil's Due Productions and IDW. Flash Gordon has been at Western (Dell/Gold Key/Whitman), DC, Marvel, Arrden, Dynamite, and others as well. Phantom at Western, Charlton, Marvel, DC, Dynamite, Hermes and others internationally as well. Tarzan is another one that has been 'round the block a few times. Yep, Western (both as Dell and Gold Key), DC, Marvel, Mailbu, Dark Horse, Dynamite, and now ERB Enterprises has their own comic imprint, not to mention the comic strip syndicates and probably some I am forgetting. -M
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Post by brutalis on Jun 30, 2020 13:04:20 GMT -5
Not sure which has the most, but there ar eothers who have been at as many or more than the Shadow. Micronauts have been at 4 as well, Marvel, Image, Devil's Due Productions and IDW. Flash Gordon has been at Western (Dell/Gold Key/Whitman), DC, Marvel, Arrden, Dynamite, and others as well. Phantom at Western, Charlton, Marvel, DC, Dynamite, Hermes and others internationally as well. Tarzan is another one that has been 'round the block a few times. Don't Forget a few others that have floated around a bit: Doc Savage The Avenger Green Hornet Zorro Lone Ranger Buck Rogers John Carter (actually you could likely include ALL ERB and REH characters?) Godzilla Star Trek Star Wars Transformers GI Joe
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Post by MDG on Jun 30, 2020 14:40:38 GMT -5
The Flintstones have been published by Dell/Western/Gold Key, Charlton, Marvel, Harvey, Archie, and DC. Plus there was a 3D one-shot by Blackthorne and for some reason Warren got the contract for The Flintstones at the NY World's Fair.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 14:49:01 GMT -5
The Flintstones have been published by Dell/Western/Gold Key, Charlton, Marvel, Harvey, Archie, and DC. Plus there was a 3D one-shot by Blackthorne and for some reason Warren got the contract for The Flintstones at the NY World's Fair. Scooby Doo made similar rounds as well. -M
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