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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 18, 2021 11:52:11 GMT -5
I dropped the series after Paul Smith's run, when Scott married Madeline Pryor. Other than picking up the two annuals that featured the New Mutants and X-Men in Asgard (Art Adams artwork), I never went back and never felt any inclination to do so. Even by that last story, with Mastermind, I felt Claremont was repeating himself and it just felt stronger when I flipped through issues on the stands, after giving up the series. He was especially obsessed with Alien and kept inserting elements of film into everything, whether it was dialogue references, creatures like the Brood or homage scenes.
I tried glancing through an early trade of one of the big storylines that followed after I dropped the series and I couldn't make heads or tales of anything, after reading through the opening chapter and put the book back. Of course, one of the reasons I dropped the series was that I hated John Romita Jr's new(ish) style on the book and didn't really care for the artists who followed. Call me old fashioned, but I preferred by figures to have less rendering. That just got worse as the Image crowd took over the books. I glanced at a few of the Jim Lee issues (the one with Captain America and one with Nick Fury on the cover, just before the launch of X-Men #1) and other than thinking there were a few cool panels, I didn't care for the (lack of) storytelling.
When it comes to X-Men, my sweet spot is the Roy Thomas/Neal Adams material and the revival, through the Byrne Era, though I preferred Cockrum's visuals to Byrne, especially with the Shi'ar storyline, where Byrne took over for the finale. I found it really jarring. I loved Cockrum's design aesthetic and Byrne just chucked it out the window for a harder line, more techno-driven. Took the romance right out of it.
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Post by Ozymandias on Apr 18, 2021 13:35:05 GMT -5
After a recent purchase I have 4-5 issues of X-cutioner’s Song. I’m halfway thinking about intentionally buying the rest of the story. What’s CCF’s opinion on this X-Men crossover? I find it very difficult to like these mega-events. Even the ones where the core isn't rotten, like X Of Swords, make it more or less necessary to read inferior tie-ins.
X-Cutioner’s Song was your run-of-the-mill, which by 90's standards was very low-hanging fruit. I could be shot if my life depended on recalling anything that transpired in those pages.
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Post by zaku on Apr 18, 2021 13:38:51 GMT -5
After a recent purchase I have 4-5 issues of X-cutioner’s Song. I’m halfway thinking about intentionally buying the rest of the story. What’s CCF’s opinion on this X-Men crossover? I find it very difficult to like these mega-events. Even the ones where the core isn't rotten, like X Of Swords, make it more or less necessary to read inferior tie-ins.
X-Cutioner’s Song was your run-of-the-mill, which by 90's standards was very low-hanging fruit. I could be shot if my life depended on recalling anything that transpired in those pages.
Yep, I don't even remember what was about. The other 90's crossovers, I had a vague idea of what they were about, but really, absolute nothing on this. Something about a super sentinel? I have no idea
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Post by shaxper on Apr 18, 2021 21:28:20 GMT -5
After a recent purchase I have 4-5 issues of X-cutioner’s Song. I’m halfway thinking about intentionally buying the rest of the story. What’s CCF’s opinion on this X-Men crossover? Believe it or not, I reviewed it here. Say what you will about post-Claremont X-Men; this one was pretty good.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 19, 2021 13:03:47 GMT -5
Thank for the input. I've intentionally and/or inadvertently gotten most of the 90's X-Men crossovers. I've never been an avid buy any X-book monthly except when I first started collecting. So I like sample the events at the time. X-Cutioner's Song and one other long one, which I forget what it was called, I have a few issues of and was just wondering about this one. I don't expect much from events in comics in general from around the 90's and on since both DC and Marvel do them way too often and then just get recanted anyway.
I was also thinking about getting Inferno. I think I've asked before and it seems it was well liked by most.
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Post by Crimebuster on Apr 19, 2021 13:50:12 GMT -5
Personally, I hated Inferno, but I certainly encourage you to find out why for yourself!
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Post by shaxper on Apr 19, 2021 19:07:49 GMT -5
Personally, I hated Inferno, but I certainly encourage you to find out why for yourself! I felt nothing towards Inferno, which surprised me. I was really excited to read it at the time.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 19, 2021 19:15:47 GMT -5
I would have felt burned by the experience.
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Post by tartanphantom on Apr 19, 2021 20:01:25 GMT -5
I would have felt burned by the experience. He’ll be here all week, folks... enjoy the buffet...
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Post by brutalis on Apr 19, 2021 20:42:00 GMT -5
I would have felt burned by the experience. May I suggest not giving up your day job just yet? Wouldn't want you burning your bridges behind you or getting burned from a fickle audience. 🤪
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Post by foxley on Apr 19, 2021 21:52:40 GMT -5
I would have felt burned by the experience. May I suggest not giving up your day job just yet? Wouldn't want you burning your bridges behind you or getting burned from a fickle audience. 🤪 Does he really deserve this roasting?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 22:27:44 GMT -5
May I suggest not giving up your day job just yet? Wouldn't want you burning your bridges behind you or getting burned from a fickle audience. 🤪 Does he really deserve this roasting? Well since Brutalis is from the Arizona desert region, at least it's a dry roast... -M
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Post by spoon on Apr 19, 2021 22:38:06 GMT -5
Thank for the input. I've intentionally and/or inadvertently gotten most of the 90's X-Men crossovers. I've never been an avid buy any X-book monthly except when I first started collecting. So I like sample the events at the time. X-Cutioner's Song and one other long one, which I forget what it was called, I have a few issues of and was just wondering about this one. I don't expect much from events in comics in general from around the 90's and on since both DC and Marvel do them way too often and then just get recanted anyway. I was also thinking about getting Inferno. I think I've asked before and it seems it was well liked by most. I like Inferno. It's the culmination of a lot of stuff in the X-books, and I think it pays off.
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Post by Ozymandias on Apr 20, 2021 0:40:46 GMT -5
I don't expect much from events in comics in general from around the 90's and on since both DC and Marvel do them way too often and then just get recanted anyway. I was also thinking about getting Inferno. I think I've asked before and it seems it was well liked by most. You do well not to. The problem with Marvel at least, is that they seem to always have some sort of event running, be it all-encompassing or franchise specific. I find this disturbing when reading a given run, which is why I've already bought the Immortal Hulk Omnibi while, at the same time, am holding on a buying decision regarding X-Men. The former can be read without any reference to such events, the latter is much more difficult to map out.
Inferno wasn't as bad, it was the end of the 80's, but it wasn't the 90's yet
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Post by foxley on Apr 20, 2021 0:54:23 GMT -5
My main memory regarding Inferno was that it was where Madeline Pryor started going off the rails as the writers were ordered to clear the decks so Scott and Jean could get back together. So all of a sudden, she's a clone with demonic sorcery. What the...?!
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