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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2023 17:20:35 GMT -5
If I was going to start reading some Adam Warlock stories, is the better starting point the Roy Thomas-era or the later Jim Starlin?
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Post by Cei-U! on May 27, 2023 19:29:23 GMT -5
If I was going to start reading some Adam Warlock stories, is the better starting point the Roy Thomas-era or the later Jim Starlin? I'd read Marvel Premiere #1, at least, before tackling Starlin-era Warlock. That one issue should get you adequately up to speed.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 27, 2023 20:23:10 GMT -5
The Essential Warlock trade is still available at a very decent price; that's what I would suggest. It starts with Marvel Premiere #1 and goes on to the end of the Starlin run.
I also think that most of those stories look better in B&W; especially the Starlin issues that he coloured himself. Jim tended to go for pretty dark colours that made images a bit murky.
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Post by shaxper on May 27, 2023 23:08:52 GMT -5
If I was going to start reading some Adam Warlock stories, is the better starting point the Roy Thomas-era or the later Jim Starlin? I really like the first few issues of the Marvel Premiere run. After that, the creative teams keep rotating in and out, leaving Warlock with a series made mostly of fill-in stories with no overarching vision. Folks often tend to miss Incredible Hulk #176-178, which was focused more on Adam Warlock than on Hulk, and which was also pretty darn memorable.
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Post by Dizzy D on May 28, 2023 1:39:15 GMT -5
If you read any of the New Testament, you've read Thomas Adam Warlock stories. As in it's not even subtle.
I'd say you can easily skip those and just go to the Jim Starlin run.
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Post by kirby101 on May 28, 2023 8:19:27 GMT -5
If you read any of the New Testament, you've read Thomas Adam Warlock stories. As in it's not even subtle. I'd say you can easily skip those and just go to the Jim Starlin run. That's one of the reasons they are fun, and Jesus never shot beams from a gem in his forehead.
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Post by foxley on May 28, 2023 8:36:19 GMT -5
If you read any of the New Testament, you've read Thomas Adam Warlock stories. As in it's not even subtle. I'd say you can easily skip those and just go to the Jim Starlin run. And if you've ever read any story by Jim Starlin, you can probably skip over his run as well.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 28, 2023 11:45:47 GMT -5
If you read any of the New Testament, you've read Thomas Adam Warlock stories. As in it's not even subtle. I'd say you can easily skip those and just go to the Jim Starlin run. And if you've ever read any story by Jim Starlin, you can probably skip over his run as well. Now, now........ Thanos yes; not so much his Warlock stories before Thanos enters the story. The Magus storyline was a bit different than his Captain Marvel work, though he revisited that subject in Dreadstar.
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Post by tarkintino on May 28, 2023 13:21:09 GMT -5
If you read any of the New Testament, you've read Thomas Adam Warlock stories. As in it's not even subtle. I'd say you can easily skip those and just go to the Jim Starlin run. And if you've ever read any story by Jim Starlin, you can probably skip over his run as well.
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Post by Calidore on May 28, 2023 15:49:32 GMT -5
If you read any of the New Testament, you've read Thomas Adam Warlock stories. As in it's not even subtle. I'd say you can easily skip those and just go to the Jim Starlin run. That's one of the reasons they are fun, and Jesus never shot beams from a gem in his forehead. That would definitely have made the Bible more fun to read.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 28, 2023 15:52:25 GMT -5
If you read any of the New Testament, you've read Thomas Adam Warlock stories. As in it's not even subtle. I'd say you can easily skip those and just go to the Jim Starlin run. That's one of the reasons they are fun, and Jesus never shot beams from a gem in his forehead. There are 18 missing years out there. Who knows what kind of beams he was shooting during that time. Plenty of time for a retcon.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 28, 2023 16:04:56 GMT -5
That's one of the reasons they are fun, and Jesus never shot beams from a gem in his forehead. There are 18 missing years out there. Who knows what kind of beams he was shooting during that time. Plenty of time for a retcon. Well, according to this...... ....Jesus (Josh, to his friends) and his friend Levi (known as Biff, the sound of his mother's hand hitting him upside the head), have to get out of Judea for a while, after stumbling into some zealots (including the uncle of Mary Magdalene, aka Maggie), and some Roman soldiers pursuing them. He and Biff travel to the East to find the three Magi and study with them. One is a Taoist magician, one a Buddhist and one a Hindu. Josh studies with them and learns of their philosophical ideas and beliefs which helps him bring into focus the ideas he has swirling around in his head about his foretold role. Meanwhile, he and Biff create the first Hebrew martial art (Jew-do), Josh walks around touching the Untouchables, in India, and smiles at them, until they return to Judea and Josh begins his ministry and assembles his disciples. Probably the funniest book on Comparative Religion, disguised as fiction, that you will find.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 28, 2023 16:08:09 GMT -5
There are 18 missing years out there. Who knows what kind of beams he was shooting during that time. Plenty of time for a retcon. Well, according to this...... ....Jesus (Josh, to his friends) and his friend Levi (known as Biff, the sound of his mother's hand hitting him upside the head), have to get out of Judea for a while, after stumbling into some zealots (including the uncle of Mary Magdalene, aka Maggie), and some Roman soldiers pursuing them. He and Biff travel to the East to find the three Magi and study with them. One is a Taoist magician, one a Buddhist and one a Hindu. Josh studies with them and learns of their philosophical ideas and beliefs which helps him bring into focus the ideas he has swirling around in his head about his foretold role. Meanwhile, he and Biff create the first Hebrew martial art (Jew-do), Josh walks around touching the Untouchables, in India, and smiles at them, until they return to Judea and Josh begins his ministry and assembles his disciples. Probably the funniest book on Comparative Religion, disguised as fiction, that you will find. Oh, I'm aware. Moore is one of my favorite authors and Lamb is my favorite of his books.
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Post by Confessor on May 29, 2023 0:04:55 GMT -5
Still trying to grok that some people here don't like Steve Ditko's depiction of women. I mean, sure, they didn't look like film stars, a la John Romita, but they hardly looked ugly either. They just looked like regular people to me, as did most of his male characters.
I absolutely get the dislike of Jack Kirby's Silver and Bronze Age women because sometimes his glamourpusses did look like dockside bruisers, but Ditko? I know beauty is all in the eye of the beholder and all that, but yeah...surprised that some people have such a problem with Ditko's women.
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Post by EdoBosnar on May 29, 2023 5:00:19 GMT -5
Still trying to grok that some people here don't like Steve Ditko's depiction of women. I mean, sure, they didn't look like film stars, a la John Romita, but they hardly looked ugly either. They just looked like regular people to me, as did most of his male characters. I absolutely get the dislike of Jack Kirby's Silver and Bronze Age women because sometimes his glamourpusses did look like dockside bruisers, but Ditko? I know beauty is all in the eye of the beholder and all that, but yeah...surprised that some people have such a problem with Ditko's women.
Also, this:
*snerk* (also: more than just sometimes...)
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