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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 21, 2023 21:22:38 GMT -5
How many adjustments does it take to equal a reboot? Let's find out: A-One......A-Two...........A-Three..... CRACK Three.
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Post by zaku on Sept 22, 2023 0:20:40 GMT -5
I *think* they may referring to the 2015 Secret Wars, which was basically Marvel's COIE in that it reduced everything to only one universe at the end (no idea if that has stuck though) Ah. I didn't know there was a 2015 Secret Wars. Now that I do, I shall revel in and perpetuate my ignorance of it.
Cei-U! I summon my total indifference!
Yep 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by zaku on Sept 22, 2023 0:22:41 GMT -5
Technically, Dc Universe had only two reboots: Crisis and FlashPoint/New 52. The others were just "adjustments". The Marvel universe had only one reboot, after Secret Wars. The rest are changes due to the sliding timeline and the various retcons that, well, have always existed as long as superhero comics have existed. You might be the most knowledgable person on the forum about comics after 2010. I was thinking the same thing about Flashpoint and Nu52. But wasn't there something after nu52? Well, by memory, uhm, Convergence, Doomsday Clock and Metal Knights?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 22, 2023 7:14:18 GMT -5
I definitely would call Zero Hour a reboot as well... it was certainly advertised as one! Convergence definitely was as well.. it destroyed the new 52 universe and returned to one similar to post Crisis, but not quite. Infinite Crisis is arguable, but going from 'We only have one world' to 52 of them sounds like a reboot to me! So for DC: Crisis ('96) Zero Hour ('93) Infinite Crisis/Multiversity/Hypertime (2006) Flashpoint/New 52 (2011) Convergence/re-birth (2016) I wouldn't call Doomsday Clock a re-boot... it just put Watchmen in context. I have to say I didn't read enough of the Metal stuff to know. Convergence was basically changed back to post-crisis, getting rid of New 52, but as always keeping things they liked and maximizing confusion . For Marvel, Hickman's Secret Wars was a re-boot in story (the entire universe was destroyed, then brought back), but that has happened a few times, so I'm not sure that counts... I guess it's up to the reader.
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Post by tonebone on Sept 22, 2023 7:45:08 GMT -5
I *think* they may referring to the 2015 Secret Wars, which was basically Marvel's COIE in that it reduced everything to only one universe at the end (no idea if that has stuck though) Ah. I didn't know there was a 2015 Secret Wars. Now that I do, I shall revel in and perpetuate my ignorance of it.
Cei-U! I summon my total indifference!
Be glad you don't have the emotional burden of knowing about it.
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Post by zaku on Sept 22, 2023 10:18:44 GMT -5
I wouldn't call Doomsday Clock a re-boot... It brought the JSA, Superboy (Superman as a young man) and the Legion of Super-Heroes back into continuity, so... For Marvel, Hickman's Secret Wars was a re-boot in story (the entire universe was destroyed, then brought back), but that has happened a few times, so I'm not sure that counts... I guess it's up to the reader. Well, the Ultimate universe was destroyed, and some of its inhabitants (such as Miles Morales) were brought into the main Marvel universe and retroactively established that they had always been part of it. Plus a whole series of changes to the continuity of various characters. Let's say it's the closest thing to COIE in the Marvel universe.
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Sept 22, 2023 10:20:49 GMT -5
Hasn't DC rebooted yet again in the past year or so? I only know this because I have DC Infinite and I've noticed a "Dawn of DC" branding with a bunch of new #1's
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Post by zaku on Sept 22, 2023 10:23:54 GMT -5
Hasn't DC rebooted yet again in the past year or so? I only know this because I have DC Infinite and I've noticed a "Dawn of DC" branding with a bunch of new #1's Not really, it's just a marketing brand for a series of storylines. This time, no reboot!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 18:41:55 GMT -5
I will post a question I've received here, as well as the proper answer since I believe others will want to know. Question: True or false, should Superman be regarded as an inferior superhero? The correct answer: Regardless of personal preferences and attempted anecdotal references to the character's publication history, as established in Adventure Comics #247 during Superboy's first meeting with the Legion of Super-Heroes, he is given their highest award of "Super-Hero Number One": As this is clearly a lifetime award and beyond (confirmed by Superboy's dialogue in the last pane), he holds this title when he grows up to be Superman as well. Therefore, Superman is legally the best superhero. I hope that clears things up.
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Post by Confessor on Sept 22, 2023 19:00:29 GMT -5
I will post a question I've received here, as well as the proper answer since I believe others will want to know. Question: True or false, should Superman be regarded as an inferior superhero? The correct answer: Regardless of personal preferences and attempted anecdotal references to the character's publication history, as established in Adventure Comics #247 during Superboy's first meeting with the Legion of Super-Heroes, he is given their highest award of "Super-Hero Number One": As this is clearly a lifetime award and beyond (confirmed by Superboy's dialogue in the last pane), he holds this title when he grows up to be Superman as well. Therefore, Superman is legally the best superhero. I hope that clears things up. This sounds like a case for Slam_Bradley, attorney at law.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 19:07:32 GMT -5
I will post a question I've received here, as well as the proper answer since I believe others will want to know. Question: True or false, should Superman be regarded as an inferior superhero? The correct answer: Regardless of personal preferences and attempted anecdotal references to the character's publication history, as established in Adventure Comics #247 during Superboy's first meeting with the Legion of Super-Heroes, he is given their highest award of "Super-Hero Number One": As this is clearly a lifetime award and beyond (confirmed by Superboy's dialogue in the last pane), he holds this title when he grows up to be Superman as well. Therefore, Superman is legally the best superhero. I hope that clears things up. This sounds like a case for Slam_Bradley , attorney at law. Sorry, you have to be licensed to practice comic book law. We have many super knowledgeable people here, but somehow I believe only Cei-U! would technically hold this credential (if it actually existed).
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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 22, 2023 19:26:00 GMT -5
@supercat2099. Leave us not forget the firm of Murdock and Nelson.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 22, 2023 21:32:19 GMT -5
@supercat2099 . Leave us not forget the firm of Murdock and Nelson. or Wolff & Byrd, though they only handle the macabre.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 22, 2023 21:33:05 GMT -5
ps The Kingdom introduced Hypertime, which was a reboot to re-establish a multiverse,
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 22, 2023 21:37:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't call Doomsday Clock a re-boot... It brought the JSA, Superboy (Superman as a young man) and the Legion of Super-Heroes back into continuity, so... For Marvel, Hickman's Secret Wars was a re-boot in story (the entire universe was destroyed, then brought back), but that has happened a few times, so I'm not sure that counts... I guess it's up to the reader. Well, the Ultimate universe was destroyed, and some of its inhabitants (such as Miles Morales) were brought into the main Marvel universe and retroactively established that they had always been part of it. Plus a whole series of changes to the continuity of various characters. Let's say it's the closest thing to COIE in the Marvel universe. I can't really think of any continuity changes off hand that were more significant than the stuff that gets discarded and changed with every new writer...but I maybe there's stuff out there in books I don't read. Miles and the Maker getting to the main MU is something, but I wouldn't call two characters re-boot.
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