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Post by rom on Sept 9, 2016 18:54:33 GMT -5
hmm. . my first thought is "Weird Mystery Tales" just a guess. Thanks for the quick response. I will do some research regarding this.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 9, 2016 20:19:13 GMT -5
How pertinent are the other Zero Hour titles outside of Zero Hour Crisis in Time to get the gist of the story? Reading through the lot of comics I bought a few months ago, I got a Rebels #0 and Manhunter #0. Before that I've gotten the Batman family book appearances along with GL and GA because I was wanting those for the series themselves more so than reading Zero Hour itself. But now having about 15 issues in different titles, I started to wonder about the mini series itself since I have not read it. Is it good? Will the mini series itself tell most of the story? They're not vital, but I remember quite enjoying them.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 9, 2016 20:39:35 GMT -5
How pertinent are the other Zero Hour titles outside of Zero Hour Crisis in Time to get the gist of the story? Reading through the lot of comics I bought a few months ago, I got a Rebels #0 and Manhunter #0. Before that I've gotten the Batman family book appearances along with GL and GA because I was wanting those for the series themselves more so than reading Zero Hour itself. But now having about 15 issues in different titles, I started to wonder about the mini series itself since I have not read it. Is it good? Will the mini series itself tell most of the story? They're not vital, but I remember quite enjoying them. I think I'm going to go for the titles that had numbered issues (outside of 0) and the mini series. Than any #0 that look good that I don't already own. In fact I just read Rebels #0 today and quite liked it. I haven't read it before or Legion.
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Post by Mormel on Sept 10, 2016 9:40:14 GMT -5
The Handbook thing makes sense... they even have her in the horrendous green 'Ariel' customer in the cover box. That's an interesting 'What if'... I wonder if she would have achieved the same popularity and importance if they stuck with Ariel. I wish she would be referred to as Shadowcat that "Kitty Pryde" stuff always grates on me. . and I loved, loved, LOVED the Art Adams (?) designed Shadowcat costume, and wish they would use it occasionally. It's worth noting that, around the time 'God Loves, Man Kills' was published, Kitty was still occasionally referred to as Sprite. IIRC when Professor X telepathically contacts her while she's fighting the Sidri, and when she descends into the Morlock Tunnels and comments that she doesn't care for the name anymore. Then later, Nimrod refers to her as 'Ariel', and Rachel Summers comments that it's the name Kitty went by in the future. I also love the blue Shadowcat costume. I'm a bit confused that she later returns to variations of her old black-and-yellow 'trainee' uniform, especially considering that part of her coming of age involved her rejecting that outfit (she didn't feel unique anymore now that the New Mutants basically wore the same clothes as her, and she went through various different self-designed costumes before she became Shadowcat).
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Sept 10, 2016 14:23:09 GMT -5
Hey guys - now that Halloween is coming up, I thought it was a good time to ask this. Anyway, here is my question: Roughly 35-ish years ago (either in the very late '70's or early '80's), I read a creepy, disturbing story in an anthology horror comic - from what I can remember, the plot of the story was as follows - please note it's many years since I read this, so the details are somewhat hazy: A guy was driving alone late at night in the middle of nowhere. He stopped at an almost-deserted diner to get some coffee and possibly something to eat. As time went on, he noticed some strange things going on in the diner (though I can't remember what they were), and he eventually asked the diner's proprietor about them. The diner's proprietor (a creepy older guy), smiled in a sinister way and said something like, "Don't you know where you are?!". The last panel(s) were of the diner floating in space/limbo (I think). The implication was that the guy was dead?! and that the diner was supposed to be purgatory/hell - at least that's what I remember thinking at the time. I don't remember which comic book this was in - it could have been in a DC or maybe even a Charlton anthology horror comic - I do remember that these types of horror comics were quite popular at this time, i.e. D.C.'s House of Secrets, etc. I don't think it was a Marvel comic (they didn't have many horror anthology comics by the late '70's/early '80's). This was definitely a color comic book, not a b&w comic or b&w magazine. Also, note that this was not the only story in this comic - there were at least 2-3 other stories, but I can't remember what they were - that's the only one that stands out. Anyway, if anyone out there knows which comic I'm talking about here, please post this here - I would like to track it down so I can read it again. Also, if it's been reprinted anywhere please post this as well - lastly, a link to the comic itself would be much appreciated, also. Thanks in advance for any info. on this! rom The Science Fiction aspect of the story made me think it could be in an issue of Time Warp. I checked my collection and no luck. The GCD said that when TW was cancelled some of the left over stories were used in The Unexpected. The GCD entries for those 4 Unexpected issues had story synopsis and none matched your story.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 10, 2016 16:21:35 GMT -5
They're not vital, but I remember quite enjoying them. I think I'm going to go for the titles that had numbered issues (outside of 0) and the mini series. Than any #0 that look good that I don't already own. In fact I just read Rebels #0 today and quite liked it. I haven't read it before or Legion. Legion of Super-Heroes came first, but then came L.E.G.I.O.N.
(which chronicles the ancestors and forefathers of the Legion in the current DCU), then L.E.G.I.O.N. morphed into R.E.B.E.L.S. L.E.G.I.O.N. lasted for 70 issues and 5 annuals. It spun out of Invasion as L.E.G.I.O.N. '89 and every year the title changed up until the last year as L.E.G.I.O.N. '94. DC continued the concept with R.E.B.E.L.S. '94 - '96 (18 issues). Once again, DC brought it back in 2009. It ran 28 issues and an annual. It was a solid seller, but not a great seller, but is one of the best sci-fi series I've read, and had ties back to the Legion of Super-Heroes, making a good thing even better. They're inexpensive to pick up and great reading. Vril Dox is still one of my favorite characters. From DC Wikia : L.E.G.I.O.N. is the Licensed Extra-Governmental Interstellar Operatives Network, an inter-galactic police force that is hired by different planets. Their founder and leader is Brainiac 2, who runs the organization out of their headquarters on planet Cairn. There is also a related team called R.E.B.E.L.S., who were formed to oppose L.E.G.I.O.N. when it was taken over by the evil Brainiac 3. Their descendants in the 30th Century became the Legion of Super-Heroes. L.E.G.I.O.N. was created by Keith Giffen, Bill Mantlo, and Todd McFarlane, first appearing in Invasion! #1. (1988)
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 10, 2016 16:26:54 GMT -5
How pertinent are the other Zero Hour titles outside of Zero Hour Crisis in Time to get the gist of the story? Reading through the lot of comics I bought a few months ago, I got a Rebels #0 and Manhunter #0. Before that I've gotten the Batman family book appearances along with GL and GA because I was wanting those for the series themselves more so than reading Zero Hour itself. But now having about 15 issues in different titles, I started to wonder about the mini series itself since I have not read it. Is it good? Will the mini series itself tell most of the story? They're not vital, but I remember quite enjoying them. I remember really liking zero hour when it came out and I reread it a year or so ago, and it didn't hold up well. Jurgens is probably the most under rated artist in the last 20 years but , aside from that, there were too many alterations to the DC heroes and it had me trying to remember all the players. I felt the same way about Infinite Crisis.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 17:12:11 GMT -5
I think I'm going to go for the titles that had numbered issues (outside of 0) and the mini series. Than any #0 that look good that I don't already own. In fact I just read Rebels #0 today and quite liked it. I haven't read it before or Legion. Legion of Super-Heroes came first, then came L.E.G.I.O.N., then L.E.G.I.O.N. morphed into R.E.B.E.L.S. L.E.G.I.O.N. lasted for 70 issues and 5 annuals. It spun out of Invasion as L.E.G.I.O.N. '89 and every year the title changed up until the last year as L.E.G.I.O.N. '94. DC continued the concept with R.E.B.E.L.S. '94 - '96 (18 issues). Once again, DC brought it back in 2009. It ran 28 issues and an annual. It was a solid seller, but not a great seller, but is one of the best sci-fi series I've read, and had ties back to the Legion of Super-Heroes, making a good thing even better. They're inexpensive to pick up and great reading. Vril Dox is still one of my favorite characters. agreed. and wish they would re-introduce Strata. . another great character from the L.E.G.I.O.N. books.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 10, 2016 18:55:31 GMT -5
Thanks for such the in depth reply of Legion and Rebels hondo. I may take a look at the library on the off chance they have a TPB to check out. But I liked the art in Rebels, if it stays consistent from #0 and the story seemed good.
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Post by rom on Sept 10, 2016 22:10:56 GMT -5
Hey guys - now that Halloween is coming up, I thought it was a good time to ask this. Anyway, here is my question: Roughly 35-ish years ago (either in the very late '70's or early '80's), I read a creepy, disturbing story in an anthology horror comic - from what I can remember, the plot of the story was as follows - please note it's many years since I read this, so the details are somewhat hazy: A guy was driving alone late at night in the middle of nowhere. He stopped at an almost-deserted diner to get some coffee and possibly something to eat. As time went on, he noticed some strange things going on in the diner (though I can't remember what they were), and he eventually asked the diner's proprietor about them. The diner's proprietor (a creepy older guy), smiled in a sinister way and said something like, "Don't you know where you are?!". The last panel(s) were of the diner floating in space/limbo (I think). The implication was that the guy was dead?! and that the diner was supposed to be purgatory/hell - at least that's what I remember thinking at the time. I don't remember which comic book this was in - it could have been in a DC or maybe even a Charlton anthology horror comic - I do remember that these types of horror comics were quite popular at this time, i.e. D.C.'s House of Secrets, etc. I don't think it was a Marvel comic (they didn't have many horror anthology comics by the late '70's/early '80's). This was definitely a color comic book, not a b&w comic or b&w magazine. Also, note that this was not the only story in this comic - there were at least 2-3 other stories, but I can't remember what they were - that's the only one that stands out. Anyway, if anyone out there knows which comic I'm talking about here, please post this here - I would like to track it down so I can read it again. Also, if it's been reprinted anywhere please post this as well - lastly, a link to the comic itself would be much appreciated, also. Thanks in advance for any info. on this! rom The Science Fiction aspect of the story made me think it could be in an issue of Time Warp. I checked my collection and no luck. The GCD said that when TW was cancelled some of the left over stories were used in The Unexpected. The GCD entries for those 4 Unexpected issues had story synopsis and none matched your story. Thanks for the info. However, this story was definitely not sci-fi in any way; it was in a horror comic. Again, I think the end was supposed to imply the diner was in hell/limbo, not outer space. Also, I could be mis-remembering some details here - after all, it's been 35+ years since I read this comic.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 11, 2016 10:51:56 GMT -5
Slightly obscure one, here: I've just been reading some fairly early issues of JLA, and #35 ("The Case of the Bodieless Uniforms") features five villains who are old foes of five Leaguers: three of them are relatively well known (Dr Polaris, Killer Moth and Pied Piper) and I vaguely remember having seen the Mask, an old Wonder Woman villain, before (though I thought she was a Golden Age character, making me wonder if this is another case of an Earth Two character being mistakenly assigned to Earth One) but the fifth, an Aquaman villain named Dagon, left me drawing a complete blank. I looked him up on the DC Database wiki, which lists this issue as his only appearance, but Aquaman acts as though he's fought him previously, and a newsreader in the issue also seems familiar with him. It seems rather odd that they'd create a retcon villain for this one issue rather than use an established one, so I'm wondering-had he ever appeared before?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 11:17:56 GMT -5
Slightly obscure one, here: I've just been reading some fairly early issues of JLA, and #35 ("The Case of the Bodieless Uniforms") features five villains who are old foes of five Leaguers: three of them are relatively well known (Dr Polaris, Killer Moth and Pied Piper) and I vaguely remember having seen the Mask, an old Wonder Woman villain, before (though I thought she was a Golden Age character, making me wonder if this is another case of an Earth Two character being mistakenly assigned to Earth One) but the fifth, an Aquaman villain named Dagon, left me drawing a complete blank. I looked him up on the DC Database wiki, which lists this issue as his only appearance, but Aquaman acts as though he's fought him previously, and a newsreader in the issue also seems familiar with him. It seems rather odd that they'd create a retcon villain for this one issue rather than use an established one, so I'm wondering- had he ever appeared before? Dagon is a middle eastern "fish-god". He is mentioned in Paradise Lost. However I don't remember him in comics.
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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 11, 2016 11:55:44 GMT -5
Slightly obscure one, here: I've just been reading some fairly early issues of JLA, and #35 ("The Case of the Bodieless Uniforms") features five villains who are old foes of five Leaguers: three of them are relatively well known (Dr Polaris, Killer Moth and Pied Piper) and I vaguely remember having seen the Mask, an old Wonder Woman villain, before (though I thought she was a Golden Age character, making me wonder if this is another case of an Earth Two character being mistakenly assigned to Earth One) but the fifth, an Aquaman villain named Dagon, left me drawing a complete blank. I looked him up on the DC Database wiki, which lists this issue as his only appearance, but Aquaman acts as though he's fought him previously, and a newsreader in the issue also seems familiar with him. It seems rather odd that they'd create a retcon villain for this one issue rather than use an established one, so I'm wondering- had he ever appeared before? No, that was indeed Dagon's only appearance. Aquaman had so few recurring villains in the early '60s that, after using Electric Man (from Adventure #254) in JLA #5, Julius Schwartz and Gardner Fox resorted to making some up. Cutlass Charlie, from JLA #61, is another example. Cei-U! I summon the empty rogues gallery!
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 11, 2016 12:01:44 GMT -5
Slightly obscure one, here: I've just been reading some fairly early issues of JLA, and #35 ("The Case of the Bodieless Uniforms") features five villains who are old foes of five Leaguers: three of them are relatively well known (Dr Polaris, Killer Moth and Pied Piper) and I vaguely remember having seen the Mask, an old Wonder Woman villain, before (though I thought she was a Golden Age character, making me wonder if this is another case of an Earth Two character being mistakenly assigned to Earth One) but the fifth, an Aquaman villain named Dagon, left me drawing a complete blank. I looked him up on the DC Database wiki, which lists this issue as his only appearance, but Aquaman acts as though he's fought him previously, and a newsreader in the issue also seems familiar with him. It seems rather odd that they'd create a retcon villain for this one issue rather than use an established one, so I'm wondering- had he ever appeared before? No, that was indeed Dagon's only appearance. Aquaman had so few recurring villains in the early '60s that, after using Electric Man (from Adventure #254) in JLA #5, Julius Schwartz and Gardner Fox resorted to making some up. Cutlass Charlie, from JLA #61, is another example. Cei-U! I summon the empty rogues gallery! Thank you. For some reason, that is actually quite funny. "No, honestly guys, I do actually do stuff between JLA adventures, there's really quite a lot of crime under the sea!"
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Post by Trevor on Sept 11, 2016 12:12:42 GMT -5
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