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Post by rich on Oct 8, 2024 9:24:16 GMT -5
That first panel is a total mess, agreed! I remember the DC Treasury Edition (or whatever DC called those big books) featuring the marriage of Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad; it had a section featuring a small picture each Legionnaire with their name and a brief description if who they were. That was the way to introduce new readers to a large cast; not an info-dump masquerading as forced dialogue. I never understood why captions were progressively dropped in the '80s in favour of characters explaining stuff to each other. It makes them sound as if they knew they were actually talking to the readers. Give me a brief and useful caption any time when the images do not convey important information! I could be misremembering, but I think Shooter imposed some rules on this kind of stuff... mainly that it was his belief that kids did not read the captions, and any exposition should be handled through dialogue. Also, every comic is someone's first issue, so exposition is a GOOD thing. Chris Claremont was especially keen on it!! |
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Post by tonebone on Oct 9, 2024 12:59:00 GMT -5
I could be misremembering, but I think Shooter imposed some rules on this kind of stuff... mainly that it was his belief that kids did not read the captions, and any exposition should be handled through dialogue. Also, every comic is someone's first issue, so exposition is a GOOD thing. Chris Claremont was especially keen on it!! Well, Claremont dove in with both feet, but I think he hated having Shooter dictate the terms of his writing. I get the feeling they did not see eye-to-eye on much. |
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Post by nairb73 on Oct 9, 2024 15:59:12 GMT -5
I can remember DC Comics would resort to a few panels (or pages) of 'narrated flashbacks'when a 'deeper dive' was needed. (A Superman-Black Canary team-up in DC COMICS PRESENTS summed up the death of Larry Lance, and even recreated that panel of the JLA and JSA mourning at the grave). The exposition I hated was via diary/journal entries, in cursive. 'There's no CURSIVE in COMICS!' I hated seeing cursive in comics too! Especially when you get a couple of pages of that to read. Awful! Those 'Private Life of Clark Kent' stories(mid-70s to early 80s in SUPERMAN and SUPERMAN FAMILY) were often up to 8 pages of 'diary entries', but thankfully, they later dropped that 'technique'. |
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Post by rich on Oct 9, 2024 16:45:48 GMT -5
Has anyone been tempted to sell their old key books, with prices going f*ucking stratospheric in the last decade? I came across this thread when looking at price changes for Hulk #181 over the years, as I remember my local comic store selling that comic a number of times. boards.cgccomics.com/topic/177268-hulk-181-price-over-the-years/page/2/#commentsThat was 14 years ago, and they were shocked at increases. If they'd known the insanity that would follow, they'd all have sold their houses to buy more and more copies of that comic. Edit: The reason that comic came to mind was seeing a brief comment about a copy selling for 70 something grand. Last time I checked its value was in a physical magazine, and a NM (like a 9.4) was worth about $400 😂 Now it's more like $20,000. Holy bejeezus. And people are saying that's down from the prices 3 years ago. 😂 |
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Post by commond on Oct 10, 2024 9:13:45 GMT -5
Roquefort Raider MRPs_Missives and other Conan fans, have you guys ever read the Death Covered in Gold miniseries from 1999? A lot of the art on Roy Thomas' late 90s Conan miniseries looks rough, but this one has John Buscema inking himself.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Oct 10, 2024 9:20:50 GMT -5
Roquefort Raider MRPs_Missives and other Conan fans, have you guys ever read the Death Covered in Gold miniseries from 1999? A lot of the art on Roy Thomas' late 90s Conan miniseries looks rough, but this one has John Buscema inking himself. I did, I read through all of the post-Conan the Barbarian Marvel Conan stuff sometime around 2019. Except for a couple of stories in Conan the Savage and the Thomas/Kayanan stuff in Conan the Adventurer, it was mostly forgettable. Not bad (except for the title simply titled Conan which was terrible), but nothing that was must-read. Death Covered in Gold was one of the better efforts among the several 3 issue minis they did, but it was still just pretty standard fare. Elevated by Buscema art, but still just a run-of-the-mill Conan pastiche story. -M |
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Post by rich on Oct 10, 2024 9:35:04 GMT -5
Quickest of questions: When you guys listen to podcasters talk about Bill Sienkiewicz, doesn't the American accent make his name sound like 'Bilson Cabbage'? 😅
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2024 10:33:22 GMT -5
Has anyone been tempted to sell their old key books, with prices going f*ucking stratospheric in the last decade?
Not my old keys, but definitely some modern day books that were going for insane prices. It's more fun when the hobby helps to pay for itself.
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Post by rich on Oct 10, 2024 10:51:21 GMT -5
Has anyone been tempted to sell their old key books, with prices going f*ucking stratospheric in the last decade?
Not my old keys, but definitely some modern day books that were going for insane prices. It's more fun when the hobby helps to pay for itself.
Amazing Spiderman 300 still feels like a 'modern day' book to me 😂 I'm not aware of any more recent books I own being worth anything substantial... |
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Post by rich on Oct 10, 2024 10:58:09 GMT -5
"Spider-Man Collectible Classics #1: So-Called 'Chromium' Edition of Amazing Spider-Man #300" how the heck is a re-print edition selling for thousands of dollars?! What? I turned my nose up at it at cover price, sadly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2024 11:00:01 GMT -5
Amazing Spiderman 300 still feels like a 'modern day' book to me 😂 I'm not aware of any more recent books I own being worth anything substantial...
Things like first appearances of Miles Morales and Spider-Gwen have become nuggets, and both are post 2010. Plus some (not all) of the multitude of rare variant covers.
I know a couple of people who sold their keys, and then bought them again when prices cooled a bit....and they're just waiting for the next boom.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 10, 2024 12:11:38 GMT -5
"Spider-Man Collectible Classics #1: So-Called 'Chromium' Edition of Amazing Spider-Man #300" how the heck is a re-print edition selling for thousands of dollars?! What? I turned my nose up at it at cover price, sadly. Because PT Barnum knew what he was talking about..... I used to ask the same thing when I'd see notations in Overstreet about DC's Famous First Edition reprints of Action Comics #1 or Detective Comics #27. Even with the outer cover removed, how could you not know it wasn't the original 1930s comic? It's not the same size, for a start. The reprints were done at tabloid size and GA comics weren't that big. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 10, 2024 12:19:28 GMT -5
Earlier this year I completed my Fourth world collection. I was wondering ( the Jack Kirby fans will know) could I read just the New Gods 11 issue series and get a complete story? I’m not sure if I need the other fourth World books to get a full experience. I know there’s an issue of Mr. Miracle that connects , but do I need to read further?
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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 10, 2024 12:27:38 GMT -5
Earlier this year I completed my Fourth world collection. I was wondering ( the Jack Kirby fans will know) could I read just the New Gods 11 issue series and get a complete story? I’m not sure if I need the other fourth World books to get a full experience. I know there’s an issue of Mr. Miracle that connects , but do I need to read further? You can skip the second half of Jack's Jimmy Olsen run and issues #11-17 of Mister Miracle but otherwise, yeah, you'll want to read it all.
Cei-U! I summon the Kirby Kosmik Komix!
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 10, 2024 12:40:51 GMT -5
Earlier this year I completed my Fourth world collection. I was wondering ( the Jack Kirby fans will know) could I read just the New Gods 11 issue series and get a complete story? I’m not sure if I need the other fourth World books to get a full experience. I know there’s an issue of Mr. Miracle that connects , but do I need to read further? You can skip the second half of Jack's Jimmy Olsen run and issues #11-17 of Mister Miracle but otherwise, yeah, you'll want to read it all.
Cei-U! I summon the Kirby Kosmik Komix!
Thanks. I was planning to read New Gods 1-11 and then Forever People 1-11 and so on. |
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