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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 6, 2016 11:18:24 GMT -5
Some friends who saw Dr. Strange but know squat about the actual comics would like to know the best way to get to know him in the comics. Is there a single collection that suits that quite adequately? There's a decently priced paperback edition of the Masterworks, which covers the early Ditko stories. Those will reflect a lot of what is in the movie and show the character forming. There were also a few Essential Dr Strange volumes, though Marvel's patently bad book publishing model has made them pricey. Note to Marvel, real publishers keep their books in print for extended periods of time. Same goes for films; I'm looking at you, Disney!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 11:29:22 GMT -5
Some friends who saw Dr. Strange but know squat about the actual comics would like to know the best way to get to know him in the comics. Is there a single collection that suits that quite adequately? They just released the Dr. Strange Omnibus which covers all the Ditko issues. They just released an Epic Collection reusing the Separate Reality title that covers a lot of the early Englehart stuff from Marvel Premiere and the 70s Doc series. They just released a new printing of the Dr. Strange: The Oath collecting the Brian K. Vaughan/Marcos Martin mini series, and a new collection of the Flight of Bones the Marvel Knights series that features art by Tony Harris and Paul Chadwick. There was also a recent release of 1 or 2 collections of the Stern era stories, I think one was entitled Don't Pay the Ferryman. Also look for Triumph and Torment, the Doc Strange/Doc Doom team up by Stern and Mignola. They've done a decent job of putting out a lot of the key Doc material to support the movie, I'll give them that. Any one of these can give you a good sense of Doc in the comics. Combined they pretty much cover all the essential Doc reads from over the years. -M PS if they do digital, Comixology just had (not certain if it's still in effect) a big sale on Doc stuff including a lot of the stuff I listed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 12:02:56 GMT -5
Thanks to cody and MRP, passing that information along.
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 6, 2016 12:37:19 GMT -5
Every now and then I think I'm an awful person and should read all of X-Men from the beginning to punish myself. There's more bad there than good, but at least you'd get some relief here and there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 12:40:20 GMT -5
Every now and then I think I'm an awful person and should read all of X-Men from the beginning to punish myself. With me it's any Rob Liefeld rag but discretion wins out and instead, I go have some Kemps ice-cream to soak my scruples in. Preferably chocolate.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Nov 6, 2016 14:54:18 GMT -5
Oh Rob Liefeld. Apparently he is a great person and accepts his criticism. Would be so much easier to hate him if he were a tool but hey...he made money on artwork that appealed to a time frame. I know some of these people, they are 90s comic fans who really don't care about the past and just enjoyed the over-the-top-ness of comics from 1990-1997 or so. And I suppose to each there own. Art is subjective.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 15:33:20 GMT -5
Oh Rob Liefeld. Apparently he is a great person and accepts his criticism. Would be so much easier to hate him if he were a tool but hey...he made money on artwork that appealed to a time frame. I was in single digits at the time but his artwork, and by extension, his imitators, was such a turn off to me that I began to shun most 90s comics. It has nothing to do with him personally, just his finished product - that I simply could not stand.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 6, 2016 15:41:12 GMT -5
But you can't deny that he keeps getting work and that those books increase sales for that title.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 6, 2016 15:47:17 GMT -5
Oh Rob Liefeld. Apparently he is a great person and accepts his criticism. Would be so much easier to hate him if he were a tool but hey...he made money on artwork that appealed to a time frame. I know some of these people, they are 90s comic fans who really don't care about the past and just enjoyed the over-the-top-ness of comics from 1990-1997 or so. And I suppose to each there own. Art is subjective. Thankfully Frank Miller doesn't pose that hurdle. Im mostly joking. Mostly.
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Post by acomixguy on Nov 6, 2016 22:09:58 GMT -5
Sorry if there is another place or way to ask this question I apologize. I have just signed up and have reached a crossroads when it comes to comics.Do I keep doing this? I have been in and out of collecting for 45 years, owned thousands and thousands of comics. After a series of events where I have lost all of my old comics, artwork ect...after a time where I have tried newer comics and didnt really enjoy the experience (the fans more than the comics themselves) I feel like I have to come up with a new way to enjoy comics or get out. Financially I cant rebuild a collection of older book (the cool stuff just costs too much) but I thought maybe through reprints I could give it another go. Is there a specific thread that deals with collecting though books? Are there a large group of older collectors that have switched th this type of collecting? Thank you for any feedback and I am looking forward to hearing from all of you!
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Post by shaxper on Nov 6, 2016 22:21:23 GMT -5
Sorry if there is another place or way to ask this question I apologize. I have just signed up and have reached a crossroads when it comes to comics.Do I keep doing this? I have been in and out of collecting for 45 years, owned thousands and thousands of comics. After a series of events where I have lost all of my old comics, artwork ect...after a time where I have tried newer comics and didnt really enjoy the experience (the fans more than the comics themselves) I feel like I have to come up with a new way to enjoy comics or get out. Financially I cant rebuild a collection of older book (the cool stuff just costs too much) but I thought maybe through reprints I could give it another go. Is there a specific thread that deals with collecting though books? Are there a large group of older collectors that have switched th this type of collecting? Thank you for any feedback and I am looking forward to hearing from all of you! I'm sorry to hear you've been forced to start from scratch! One thing I'd always meant to start here and never did was a thread for inexpensive but quality runs. There's so much treasure to be found in those old dollar and quarter bins. Maybe I'll start that thread. It won't compare to what you had before, but it might help you recapture the thrill of encountering a fantastic run in the classic style and having a place to discuss it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 22:56:37 GMT -5
Sorry if there is another place or way to ask this question I apologize. I have just signed up and have reached a crossroads when it comes to comics.Do I keep doing this? I have been in and out of collecting for 45 years, owned thousands and thousands of comics. After a series of events where I have lost all of my old comics, artwork ect...after a time where I have tried newer comics and didnt really enjoy the experience (the fans more than the comics themselves) I feel like I have to come up with a new way to enjoy comics or get out. Financially I cant rebuild a collection of older book (the cool stuff just costs too much) but I thought maybe through reprints I could give it another go. Is there a specific thread that deals with collecting though books? Are there a large group of older collectors that have switched th this type of collecting? Thank you for any feedback and I am looking forward to hearing from all of you! You just have to talk to Ish Kabbible !! And welcome!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 23:39:22 GMT -5
Sorry if there is another place or way to ask this question I apologize. I have just signed up and have reached a crossroads when it comes to comics.Do I keep doing this? I have been in and out of collecting for 45 years, owned thousands and thousands of comics. After a series of events where I have lost all of my old comics, artwork ect...after a time where I have tried newer comics and didnt really enjoy the experience (the fans more than the comics themselves) I feel like I have to come up with a new way to enjoy comics or get out. Financially I cant rebuild a collection of older book (the cool stuff just costs too much) but I thought maybe through reprints I could give it another go. Is there a specific thread that deals with collecting though books? Are there a large group of older collectors that have switched th this type of collecting? Thank you for any feedback and I am looking forward to hearing from all of you! I do a mix of trade collections and some lower grade singles of certain things. I also have a Marvel Unlimited account that was a gift from my wife so I can read the Golden and Silver Age Marvel stuff and dabble with what new Marvel books catch my interest. My local library also gets a lot of the more current (and some older) DC and Marvel stuff, so I can dabble and read from there at no cost to me. As for acquiring newer trades (or new releases of classic books in trade format) I use Amazon a lot and find ways to maximize what I spend in other ways too (for example-our local grocer/gas station chain-Kroger's offers a point reward when you spend money there and points accrue towards discounts on gas prices-they offer quadruple points on gift cards every so often, so when I plan on making an Amazon purchase for trades or hardcovers, I wait until they offer quadruple points on gift cards and buy an Amazon gift card from them getting a gas discount, but then use the reward credit card from our bank-my wife is a banker btw so knows all the ins and outs of the bank reward programs-to buy the gift cards earning us points with the bank reward program too, points we usually use to redeem for additional Amazon gift cards at no cost to us, then used to buy more trades-or DVDs or what have you-so each purchase gets me the books I want, cheaper gas, and works towards getting more gift cards I can use to get even more-stretching my budget without actually spending more $). I don't have a lot to spend on trades, but when I do, I try to make each dollar I do spend do more for me. Another tactic I use to stretch the trade budget is buying second hand from places like Half Price Books or 2nd and Charles, which usually have good deep selections a decent prices, which also stretches my trade dollars to do more. If I get and read something I am not crazy about, or if I have older books (not just comics), movies, CDs etc. lying around I don't want any more, I often trade them in at these places for money/credit, which I can then use to further stretch my trade budget. Finally I try to go to local comic cons a couple times a year (I usually do 3-4 local shows a year) and they often have dealers blowing out trade as discount prices (I just did a show last weekend where I got 8 trades for $40 i.e. $5 each). Most of them have lots of bargain books too if you are looking at single issues, everything from quarter bins, dollar bins, $3 Bronze Age books, $5 Silver Age books, etc. etc. which can help stretch budgets too. The trick to reading via trade is to: a) know what you want to read and find out how/where it is collected (some stuff is available in multiple formats)-The Grand Comic Book Database (GCD) is often good for helping track that down-there's a link on the front page here to it) b)know what kind of places to look for it that allow you to stretch your budget and maximize your buying power and c) be patient and don't overspend when you see something for a price that doesn't fit what you want to spend. I'd also say if you are looking to maximize reading budgets don't be a stickler for condition or completeness for completeness sake. If you only really want to read a short part of a longer series, just get that and don't worry about the rest. And if you're reading not "collecting" a good or very good copy reads just as well as a VF/NM copy and costs much much less. Enjoy what you have, don't worry about what you don't have. I empathiize with where you are coming from, I also got rid of a large Silver Age Marvel collection in 2003 (part of prepping for a cross-country move and paying for a wedding), and have lost interest in comics at various points. When I got back in, I focused on stuff I hadn't read before-secondary and tertiary characters, short runs, smaller publisher, Eurocomics, etc. etc. finding stuff I enjoyed that wasn't necessarily in the high demand/pricey area of the hobby. Find what you like to read and enjoy it, whether or not it's popular with other people or not, considered collectible or not, or what have you. Find your comic bliss, follow it, and let your enjoyment dictate what you buy and read, not other people's tastes, market forces, or what not. Certainly be open to suggestions from folks who might have insights to offer you, but don't feel obligated to try or get something if it doesn't appeal to you. -M
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 6, 2016 23:57:28 GMT -5
My Kabbible senses began to tingle, a sign that someone invoked my name.
Well briefly, I had a collection (my 2nd in fact) that I started to amass in 1976 and soon grew to about 60,000 issues-and no doubles at all. I was consumed by collecting and maintaining full runs even when the books where complete crap and I'd never read them. Even had to rent expensive storage space since my apartment's floor would have caved in by the sheer weight
Well, I guess it's between 3-4 years now and I had an spiritual awakening as in-what the hell am I doing? Why do I need to collect? Why do I think I want to keep re-reading all this repetitious superhero hogwash when there is so much other things out there I'll never get the time to enjoy before I kick off. Yes, I'm referring to books, movies,music and even new comics not out yet-but the question is-Why collect?
So, finally I sold my complete collect in one fell swoop-another story I told before and won't repeat again. Gone was the albatross of all those comics and the month;y rent of storage space. And hello to some cool cash which helped sooth any parting sorrows. But I felt so relieved without the collection, I felt I could breathe. I no longer cared about late comics, re-booted comics, re-numbered comics, done-to-death superhero comics. And not once since then have I bought a comic nor entered a comic store
But I still like the comic format. And thankfully in NYC we have a massive library system with a lifetime supply of hardbacks and tradebooks of classic & new, independent and big 2, and every genre there is available. And all for free. And no longer cluttering up my home. And no more worries of tape on comic bags and little dings from reading that -oh my god might lose me a decimal point of grading.
So again-why collect? Keep your brain active. Seek out new and never tried. Borrow for free, not own. Download if you must, don't kill trees. You have a limited amount of time on this planet, use it to explore new experiences. There's a reason why not many people collect comics anymore.
Of course, that's my perspective. If you feel you need to keep reading the same stories over and over, go right ahead
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 0:08:40 GMT -5
Well briefly, I had a collection (my 2nd in fact) that I started to amass in 1976 and soon grew to about 60,000 issues-and no doubles at all. AIYEEEE! 60,000! I'm barely 10% of that (approx 6,200) including extras.
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