|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 17:18:42 GMT -5
They fought tooth and nail to prevent same say digital release and form what I understand their efforts are on of the main reasons same day digital releases are priced the same as print. They have a track record of resisting the digital platform that comes from higher up in the food chain than just Didio and Lee. I am pretty sure based on that track record they won't move into any new digital platforms like an Unlimited service until they have absolutely no choice in doing so for survival's sake. They're not at that point yet, and I don't see them reaching that point any time soon. They'll drag their heels until they have no other recourse. -M Like you said they resisted same day digital to and well we can see how that worked out in the end. With stuff like comixology, archie and marvel all offering some service of this kind I have no doubt DC will do it to. Although they will likely do like Marvel and be half a year behind current issues of something like that. My guess based on not much really? 3-4 years at the most. DC only has a standpoint untill they decide they want a new one. "Hold the line at 2,99", "This is the new Wally West" and "No married superheroes" were all things they where adamant about until, well they werent. Yes, but here I feel Didio and Lee are just the mouthpieces for suits higher up. I don't think it's so much just DC resisting, but a Time Warner thing and Time Warner doesn't seem to care about revenue streams form the comics division, just what they can exploit from the IP, whereas Marvel uses their digital presence to promote the movies and TV shows as well as their digital (and print) comics. Just better synergy on Marvel's part using digital to enhance their entire line whereas TW seems to see digital as takign away from their other revenue streams, and as long as they do, I can't see them embracing any kind of digital subscription service. -M |
|
bor
Full Member
Posts: 238 
|
Post by bor on Aug 13, 2017 0:45:54 GMT -5
Like you said they resisted same day digital to and well we can see how that worked out in the end. With stuff like comixology, archie and marvel all offering some service of this kind I have no doubt DC will do it to. Although they will likely do like Marvel and be half a year behind current issues of something like that. My guess based on not much really? 3-4 years at the most. DC only has a standpoint untill they decide they want a new one. "Hold the line at 2,99", "This is the new Wally West" and "No married superheroes" were all things they where adamant about until, well they werent. Yes, but here I feel Didio and Lee are just the mouthpieces for suits higher up. I don't think it's so much just DC resisting, but a Time Warner thing and Time Warner doesn't seem to care about revenue streams form the comics division, just what they can exploit from the IP, whereas Marvel uses their digital presence to promote the movies and TV shows as well as their digital (and print) comics. Just better synergy on Marvel's part using digital to enhance their entire line whereas TW seems to see digital as takign away from their other revenue streams, and as long as they do, I can't see them embracing any kind of digital subscription service. -M Mmh I am not sure about that. I think you are right Warner is not really concernd about the comic division which is exactly why I think they will not care if something like this happens. I just cant see them holding out on this one as more and more publishers do this. They will end up looking to old fashioned if they dont and considering just how willing they have been to do the various digital first series I think they have a pretty good idea that this is something they will have to do eventually. Although again I have no doubt there will be a 6-12 month delay of new comics like Marvel. But we can only wait and see at this point. They might say no know, but considering their history of inconsistency regarding their viewpoints I still think this is likely to happen at some point. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 12:34:43 GMT -5
People have been sayingthey will follow Marvel's lead since Unlimited debuted, and they have only gotten more restrictive and less supportive of digital since. Plus I don't think they want to make the investment into the infrastructure needed to run their own sub service. They have however, made a ton of the Rebirth trades available for free reading via Hoopla, a library digital service, which is the direction I see them moving. Licensing out their material to other digital services (except Comixology, they said no to Comixology unlimited) or providing material to libraries where they can take the tax break rather than investing in a digital system infrastructure they don't see as having enough of a potential return on investment.
-M
|
|
bor
Full Member
Posts: 238
|
Post by bor on Aug 13, 2017 14:10:43 GMT -5
People have been sayingthey will follow Marvel's lead since Unlimited debuted, and they have only gotten more restrictive and less supportive of digital since. Plus I don't think they want to make the investment into the infrastructure needed to run their own sub service. They have however, made a ton of the Rebirth trades available for free reading via Hoopla, a library digital service, which is the direction I see them moving. Licensing out their material to other digital services (except Comixology, they said no to Comixology unlimited) or providing material to libraries where they can take the tax break rather than investing in a digital system infrastructure they don't see as having enough of a potential return on investment. -M As I said I think the only thing consistent with DC is their lack of exactly that. But we will see. I still think that in the next few years we will see this happen. More and more type of media is moving this way, including Disney with their latest announcement, and I just dont think DC comics will avoid this. Maybe it will be a type of warner combination of comics and cartoons or something like that but I still think it will happen. But for know we will have to wait and see. |
|
|
|
Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Aug 13, 2017 14:38:56 GMT -5
Floppies fo life!
(makes awkward gangster sign, drops mic, then runs...)
|
|
bor
Full Member
Posts: 238
|
Post by bor on Aug 13, 2017 15:36:25 GMT -5
Floppies fo life! (makes awkward gangster sign, drops mic, then runs...) I understand the desire for floppies, and I still have it for some series, but with digital the combination of it being easy to access and often very cheaper makes me happy to use it for a lot of stuff. |
|
|
|
Post by Ozymandias on Aug 14, 2017 3:37:19 GMT -5
Am I still the only one, who thinks they just look better on a big retina display?
|
|
|
|
Post by sabongero on Aug 14, 2017 11:41:29 GMT -5
The thing I like about digital is you can read an entire series from its beginning. Like for example let's say, Amazing Spider-Man #1 to #700, and etc. If you are just looking to read the stories, then digital is the way to go, and albeit for a very much cheaper price.
|
|
|
|
Post by urrutiap on Aug 14, 2017 14:15:35 GMT -5
Eh, Having the original single back issues of Spider Man such as Amazing Spider Man is so much still better than having it digital. For instance I still have the Spider Man Classic series which its when I bought them back in the 1990s when I was younger. Thats all I need for my old Amazing Spider Man run even though they're reprints.
The only time Ill ever resort to reading a comic book issue or few of the digital kind is if its a late 1980s early 1990s comic back issue thats too spendy to find at a comic book shop like Uncanny X Men 266.
200 bucks for an old issue of Uncanny X Men 266 at the comic shops. Sorry but not Im not going to waste 200 bucks on funny pages made from tree bark whatever.
I can easily read Uncanny X Men # 266 online for free or I can spend 20 bucks for the Gambit trade paperback which is pretty much way cheaper anyway than the single back issue by itself. Also most of the time the comic shop doesnt have a certain issue that im looking for to complete a short limited series or ongoing series. Sometimes I have to resort to reading a certain issue online. That way I dont have to waste from 40 bucks or even 200 bucks on an old single back issue.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 15:13:56 GMT -5
Floppies, DC Archives, and Marvel Masterworks for me. No Digitals for me.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ozymandias on Aug 15, 2017 6:02:08 GMT -5
I still have the Spider Man Classic series which its when I bought them back in the 1990s when I was younger. I liked the recolouring on those, mostly by Yanchus, unfortunately, it only covered up to ASM #15. That's a shame, because the original colours sucked up to the late 50s, and the MWs are even worse. Do you know of any reprint with "improved" colours? |
|
|
|
Post by urrutiap on Aug 15, 2017 10:26:12 GMT -5
The 1990s Spider Man Classic series is good enough for me to read the original amazing spider man issues.
I don't care if they stopped at reprinting issue 15 of amazing spider man for Sppider Man Classic. They reprinted the best stuff anyway from Lizard, Elektro, Sandman and the Enforcers
|
|
|
|
Post by urrutiap on Aug 15, 2017 10:30:05 GMT -5
Actually there's 16 issues of Spider Man Classics. By the way
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 10:34:28 GMT -5
Actually there's 16 issues of Spider Man Classics. By the way Right, one reprints Amazing Fantasy #15, Spidey's debut, and the rest reprint Amazing Spider-Man #1-15, hence they stopped reprinting with Amazing Spider-An #15 eventhough it was in issue 16 of Spider-Man classics. -M |
|
|
|
Post by sabongero on Aug 15, 2017 10:49:52 GMT -5
... 200 bucks for an old issue of Uncanny X Men 266 at the comic shops. Sorry but not Im not going to waste 200 bucks on funny pages made from tree bark whatever. I can easily read Uncanny X Men # 266 online for free or I can spend 20 bucks for the Gambit trade paperback which is pretty much way cheaper anyway than the single back issue by itself. Also most of the time the comic shop doesnt have a certain issue that im looking for to complete a short limited series or ongoing series. Sometimes I have to resort to reading a certain issue online. That way I dont have to waste from 40 bucks or even 200 bucks on an old single back issue. Exactly like I said. To read the story, and for a much cheaper price. Digital is the way to go. Nothing beats reading an actual floppy comic book, but if I wanted to read the run on Fantastic Four, Superman, Batman, Detective Comics, Amazing Spider-man, Uncanny X-Men, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Avengers, Hulk, Justice League of America, Teen Titans, etc. then the way to go is Digital to read any issue from that run from beginning to end or the most current, and for a much cheaper price. |
|
