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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 18:17:12 GMT -5
OK in each decade which of the big 2 did you enjoy more?
40's - DC by a wide margin. DC had so many great characters. The first team (JSA). 50's - DC again. The expansion of Superman's canon was amazing. 60's - DC early 60's/Marvel late 60's. I loved DC's Silver Age reinvention of their characters plus re-introducing the Golden Age characters. Then Marvel exploded with so many new & great characters. 70's - Tie for me. Both publishers tried some different ideas which I liked. 80's - Marvel early 80's/DC late 80's. DC felt brand new after Crisis. 90's - Neither. Liked Valiant early 90's. Neither company interested me. Valiant was awesome. 00's - Marvel. Mainly because Marvel felt new again especially with their Ultimate titles. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 5, 2015 18:32:13 GMT -5
Are you including Vertigo in DC. If so DC wins both the 90s and 00s in a landslide.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 18:34:09 GMT -5
Are you including Vertigo in DC. If so DC wins both the 90s and 00s in a landslide. Good point. I would like to stay away from separate imprints (Vertigo/Epic/etc) |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Sept 5, 2015 19:53:02 GMT -5
30's - DC, Duh...
40's - DC for the same reasons as md62
50's - DC for the same reasons as md62
60's - Marvel for the ntroduction of all their successfull high concepts
70's - DC, Wrightson's Swamp Thing and Neal Adams on mystery titles, Green Lantern/Green Arrow and Deadman is reason enough
80's - DC - Matteis and Giffen's JLA, Moore swamp thing and Watchmen, DK, Sandman, Hellblazer, etc
90's - DC all the way, Vertigo is reason enough and indeed is DC, no point in separating it as most iconic titles started out full DC (Swampy, Doom Patrol, Shade, Hellblazer, Sandman, Kid Eternity, etc...). Golden Age and Starman are other good reasons. The Spectre seems to be another for most, but Major Bummer is a good one for me as well
00's - Marvel. Joe Q's bringing in Ennis, Jenkins, Millar, Morrison, Gaiman, and a few others is reason enough. The Loeb/Sale titles are also a reason. DC mostly had Brubaker, Rucka and Vaughn for them.
10's - The Jury is still up, but so far it's pretty much a tie in my book, and not a spectacular one. Marvel may slightly lead solely for their Brubaker emphasis. We'll see if Snyder, Tynion and co will step up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 21:50:00 GMT -5
30's - All DC
40's - DC wins by a landslide, first Super Team - The Justice Society of America
50's - DC still rules Supreme!
60's - DC and Marvel 50/50 - but, Marvel edge out DC at the end - It was a battle for Comic Book Supremacy!
70's - Too close to call - Each Company tried different things and I just can't say who wins in this decade
80's - Marvel had the deciding factor - Marvel wins by a margin of 60/40 - they had a better product
90's - I did not read Comics this decade - I was working too much and I fell off the bandwagon.
00's - DC - I did not read Marvel Comics at all - I was looking at Image, Dynamite, and other Comic Books too - Exploring the fields.
10's - DC 40 / Marvel 30 / Dynamite 30 - Enjoyed all three publishers in that percentages
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Post by fanboystranger on Sept 5, 2015 22:14:52 GMT -5
'60s-- Marvel (although DC had the better war books)
'70s-- Marvel again, but the gap narrows
'80s-- needs to be divided in two: Marvel in the pre-Crisis period; DC in the post-Crisis period
'90s-- easily DC, especially when one factors in Vertigo and Milestone
'00s-- DC with Vertigo and Wildstorm/ABC at its peak; Marvel does close the gap when Quesada takes over, but that momentum fades as the decade progresses
'10s-- DC but mostly because of Vertigo books like Fables, The Unwritten, Astro City, and FBP; Marvel's superhero universe is stronger overall
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Sept 5, 2015 22:21:10 GMT -5
60s: Marvel, easily. Fantastic Four, Hulk, Spider-Man, X-Men, Iron Man, Thor, Dr Strange... Nothing will ever beat Marvel in the 60s.
70s: DC. They really started catching up to Marvel, while Marvel was struggling to replace the creative forces of Kirby and Ditko (Romita, Buscema and the rest of the "next generation" were great but all have admitted to being less interested in either their writing duties or the subject matter)
80s: DC again. Really hard call, but while Marvel was having exceptional runs on their hero books (Stern on Spidey, Miller on DD, Simonson on Thor, Claremont on X-Men, etc) DC was branching beyond that scope with limited series and graphic novels.
90s: DC yet again. Marvel soaked up the worst of the 90s excess and spent the rest of the decade trying to recover, while DC mostly dabbled in the trends and put forth some fantastic work. I mean, Kingdom Come? Ostrander's Spectre? Morrison on JLA? The Dixon/Grant/Moench triumvirate Can't be beat. And it culminated in what I think the only massive event that was really fantastic, No Man's Land.
00s: Marvel. It was just a really great decade for them. They started putting major creative talents on books (Morrison on X-Men, Bendis on Daredevil, Ennis on Punisher, etc) and the Ultimate imprint opened up whole new avenues of storytelling. It helps that DC dropped the ball quite a bit with massive events and what not, although it still had massive successes in the form of Johns on Green Lantern, Palmiotti and Gray on Jonah Hex and Brubaker and Rucka on Gotham Central.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 6, 2015 16:33:30 GMT -5
40s - DC by a nose, although I've never read any Golden Age DC stuff I've enjoyed as much as Bill Everett's Sub-Mariner. (Although DC later reprinted the Spirit, Plastic Man, and the original Captain Marvel.) I assume that we're counting All American as a different company, here, right?
50s - Marvel. I loves me some Joe Maneely, while a lot of the DC stuff from this period seems kind of staid and boring. I'm not incredibly well read in '50s DC, though.
60s - DC by a nose. I like Marvel's superhero books more, but DC just good in different ways - Enemy Ace, Sugar and Spike, Secret Six, Binky, the reformatted house of Mystery in '68 all very good, all very different. While the Marvel books felt just a tad similar.
70s - Steve Gerber is my single favorite scripter, and Gerry Conway seemed to write e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g for DC. Marvel by a country mile.
80s - DC by a hair, or DC by A LOT if we're not counting Epic. DC had Alan Moore, a lot of Marvel's best remembered books (John Byrne's Fantastic Four, Roger Stern's Spider-man) felt like fan-fiction.
90s - *Snicker* DC. I'm not well read in '90s Marvel, but I've never been impressed.
00s - Marvel felt really interesting to me (at least for the first half of the decade) for the first time since '76 or '77 - The universe felt both creatively (not editorially) driven and there was lots of crazy, fun experimentation on every level. DC has my favorite books of the decade - WE3, Solo, Scalped, Batman: Year 100 - but Marvel takes it on the B +s.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 6, 2015 18:01:39 GMT -5
40s - Of the two...DC. By a bit. Though I much prefer Quality, Fawcett or Dell.
50s - Of the two...ummmm...DC...maybe...pretty much a tie. Would rather read EC, Dell or Fawcett.
60s - Marvel. By a tad. But once Infantino took over DC was more interesting.
70s - Hard. Probably DC because I love the revitalization of Batman. But close to a tie.
80s - DC wins because of 1986 alone. But overall late 80s DC was doing a lot of great stuff. I kind of prefer First Comics overall though.
90s - if we include Vertigo, DC wins looking like Secretariat. If we don't include Vertigo...It's still DC with titles like Spectre, Chase, Chronos, etc.
00s - ummmm...If we include Vertigo then it's again easily DC. If not...then I don't know.
10s - Marvel in a landslide. But Vertigo kicks both their butts.
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Post by Crimebuster on Sept 6, 2015 18:52:55 GMT -5
40's - DC
50's - DC
60's - Marvel
70's - Marvel
80's - DC I guess, though I prefer Marvel's stuff
90's - DC thanks to Vertigo
00's - Marvel, though I hate most of what they did
10's - Image. DC and Marvel both suck.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 6, 2015 20:31:04 GMT -5
40,50's DC
60-80's Marvel
90's DC.
2000's until now Marvel
Just look at the sales figures.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 6, 2015 20:35:58 GMT -5
Just look at the sales figures. You base your enjoyment on sales figures? |
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Post by berkley on Sept 6, 2015 21:56:51 GMT -5
The only decades for which I'd have strong opinion on the relative merits of Marvel and DC would be:
the 60s (Marvel, easily)
the 70s (Marvel, slightly less easily), and
the 80s (DC, easily).
Before those three decades I haven't read enough to say much. If we count the 50s MAD as DC, that would give them the edge, in my view, but can we really do that?.
There's very little DC from the 60s I feel compelled to read, though I like some of the artwork quite a bit. And even the artwork is largely confined to covers by people like Nick Cardy, or Murphy Anderson (inking whoever). While Marvel featured Kirby and Ditko and Stan Lee in full swing, not to mention people like Gene Colan and Steranko.
DC's best 70s books are up there with the very best of all time, but there are only a few of them, e.g. Kirby's various series, the Wein/Wrightson Swamp Thing; while Marvel its own Kirby solo series as well as people like Gerber and Englehart taking comics writing to a new level, and ToD, MoKF, Killraven, the Black Panther, ... too many outstanding series to even list them all.
Marvel collapsed as a creative entity under the Shooter regime and became something like DC had been previously, while DC enjoyed the talents of Frank Miller and far more importantly Alan Moore.
I'd agree that DC would easily take the 90s and 2000s if we count Vertigo. Apart from that they and Marvel seem much the same to me from the 90s onwards, tough I'll always find a lot of the Marvel characters in general more intrinsically interesting, apart from DCs Kirby creations and a handful of others.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 6, 2015 22:02:26 GMT -5
40,50's DC 60-80's Marvel 90's DC. 2000's until now Marvel Just look at the sales figures. I think this is about mine, too... though admittedly I haven't really read much before the 60s to judge. More specifically, I'd say Marvel from 1963-1986, D C from Crisis to, oh about Identity Crisis... and Marvel since, though really the 90s were Vertigo more than DC, and I might pick Image currently over both. |
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Post by batlaw on Sept 6, 2015 22:15:30 GMT -5
40s dc
50s dc
60s marvel
70s tie? Maybe marvel edge?
80s dc
90s tie maybe dc edge?
00s tie? Maybe marvel
10s marvel
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