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Post by MDG on Sept 23, 2015 11:35:11 GMT -5
Very few things are worse than the Mighty Crusaders. This is one of them.  You know when you're eight and you try to write your own comic? Like that (although the art is...passable enough). The art is Sal Trapani. I have (or had) a couple pages from one of the issues. Someone had written "Steve Ditko" on the back in pencil. |
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Post by Rob Allen on Sept 23, 2015 18:22:02 GMT -5
This is one of them. You know when you're eight and you try to write your own comic? Like that (although the art is...passable enough). The art is Sal Trapani. I have (or had) a couple pages from one of the issues. Someone had written "Steve Ditko" on the back in pencil. Trapani was known for using ghost pencillers. He was good at getting assignments but not as good at pencilling. Ditko is one of the people who ghosted for him, although I don't think Steve did any of the Super Heroes book. IIRC, it was Bill Fraccio, who also ghosted a lot for Tony Tallarico. See martinohearn.blogspot.com/2011/08/sal-trapani-ghosts-bill-molno.html |
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Post by JKCarrier on Sept 23, 2015 21:59:08 GMT -5
It does have a (rare) anatomical basis in real life though. I remember years ago that someone on the Spider-Man forum at CBR posted a photo of a ginger haired guy whose hair was in really tight curls and fairly close cropped, so that it did have those undulating ridges in it, a la Norman and Harry Osborne. Wish I'd saved that pic now, but I didn't. Ditko's Osborn always reminded me of actor Joseph Cotten: no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Cotten#/media/File:Joseph_Cotten_-_1952.jpg |
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Post by Confessor on Sept 24, 2015 6:30:47 GMT -5
It does have a (rare) anatomical basis in real life though. I remember years ago that someone on the Spider-Man forum at CBR posted a photo of a ginger haired guy whose hair was in really tight curls and fairly close cropped, so that it did have those undulating ridges in it, a la Norman and Harry Osborne. Wish I'd saved that pic now, but I didn't. Ditko's Osborn always reminded me of actor Joseph Cotten: no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Cotten#/media/File:Joseph_Cotten_-_1952.jpgRight. Good call JK, that's exactly the sort of hairstyle that Ditko and subsequent artists are depicting on top of Harry and Norman Osborn's heads. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Sept 24, 2015 10:03:48 GMT -5
For me, the worst comic I've read would obviously come from someone I have great expectations for. So my favorite comic book writer commited this little crime :  Milligan obviously needed some quick cash (neihter the first time nor the last in his career, sadly...), but god was that awefull. This makes the Bendis/Austen run look like Eisner award material. And you also get Mike Deodato('s studio???) in a great post-Wonder Woman run incarnation. This is probably the pinnacle of his lows as it's just a paste of bodybuilders wihtout any sense of depth or scale, all women have broken waists and extended legs, some character's head are much smaller than their fists, I could go on forever. A true nightmare of a comic, the kind you really wish the store clrk will forget you ever bought.    |
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Post by Crimebuster on Sept 24, 2015 11:09:14 GMT -5
"My god. That creature... that woman creature. She's so absurdly sublime!"
Definitely need to try this as a pickup line.
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Post by fanboystranger on Sept 24, 2015 12:51:33 GMT -5
Milligan phoning it in is usually a disaster. His best work is among the best comics ever published, but man, his paycheck comics are really terrible. Most of his Marvel work around that period was pretty bad. The only one I liked was Further Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix and that was mostly for JP Leon.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 24, 2015 15:05:35 GMT -5
There's been bad, a lot of it post-TMNT 80's b&w stuff, but this takes the cake.    As bad as it was I had to finish it to see if I missed something. As you can see, it was a spin-off limited series from Future Imperfect, which was ok. Despite very bad Liefeld-esque artwork, I was willing to try it. Horrible so horrible I think I ripped them up and threw them away I try to say good things about creators and their work, but in this case I'll definitely make an exception. There's no question in my mind this has to be the low point for all concerned : Angel Medina (pencils), Brad Vancata (inks), Ivan Velez Jr (story), and Bobbie Chase (edits) |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Sept 24, 2015 15:24:33 GMT -5
There's been bad, a lot of it post-TMNT 80's b&w stuff, but this takes the cake. As bad as it was I had to finish it to see if I missed something. As you can see, it was a spin-off limited series from Future Imperfect, which was ok. Despite very bad Liefeld-esque artwork, I was willing to try it. Horrible so horrible I think I ripped them up and threw them away I try to say good things about creators and their work, but in this case I'll definitely make an exception. There's no question in my mind this has to be the low point for all concerned : Angel Medina (pencils), Brad Vancata (inks), Ivan Velez Jr (story), and Bobbie Chase (edits) In fairness, at least they told you upfront that the comics were "Abominations". |
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 24, 2015 17:31:24 GMT -5
Touche Why would I think my expectations should've been any different  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 24, 2015 17:38:22 GMT -5
For me, the worst comic I've read would obviously come from someone I have great expectations for. So my favorite comic book writer commited this little crime : Huh. I should read that. Milligan's my favorite (caveat one) living (caveat two) scripter, not cartoonist working in comics. This doesn't mean I obsessively chase down his work, but I've never read anything he's done that's actually awful. (Maybe Justice League Dark.) |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 24, 2015 18:03:05 GMT -5
Looking at those 90s comics, I am happy to see that my intense dislike for that era's general artistic vibe is as strong as ever. Every guy looking like the Hulk, every woman looking like a Barbie doll, every scarf, belt or cape extending for three and a half miles.... I'm so glad people like David Mack and Alex Maleev eventually showed up!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 24, 2015 18:11:51 GMT -5
As for the worst comic book story I ever read... One of the worst surprises I had was the "Haunted" story arc in Hellblazer. New writer Warren Ellis came with great credentials, but that story was utterly lacking in subtlety -it was straight, in your face gore and nastiness, almost amateurish in its execution (and with disappointing art, which didn't help any). It was a huge let-down after the exquisite and mature Paul Jenkins run.
The stand alone stories that followed were much better, and a few were actual gems. But Haunted? Yech.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Sept 24, 2015 19:11:19 GMT -5
I meant that he revealed it to Mary Jane herself...or rather she found out. This is opposed to Lois not knowing Clark is Superman (though I'm not sure they were ever that close before marriage) or Bernie not knowing Steve Rogers is Cap. Situations like that. As I recall, Bernie did find out Steve was Cap, during their relationship. And what about people like Elongated Man or Animal Man, who were portrayed for so many years as happily married that it's pretty much an essential part of their characters? I know that she did, but beyond some of the early Zeck issues, my knowledge of Cap from that point to somewhere around 1988 is spotty. Chronologically, I started reading Cap around the time Ron Lim was drawing it, though I read the Byrne/Stern issues first. But like I said, even with those above mentioned characters, I don't like the set-up. I can deal with it and accept it as a reader, but it's a conceit that I could do without. Just something about civilian's being married to superheroes and knowing about it that does work for me, as I've said. Eh. I'm weird on multiple levels and this is merely another example. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Sept 24, 2015 21:18:29 GMT -5
As for the worst comic book story I ever read... One of the worst surprises I had was the "Haunted" story arc in Hellblazer. New writer Warren Ellis came with great credentials, but that story was utterly lacking in subtlety -it was straight, in your face gore and nastiness, almost amateurish in its execution (and with disappointing art, which didn't help any). It was a huge let-down after the exquisite and mature Paul Jenkins run. The stand alone stories that followed were much better, and a few were actual gems. But Haunted? Yech. The art by John Higgins did not suit the story at all. (And I normally love Higgins art.) I think if they had paired Ellis with one of the artists from the one-offs, the story would have been much stronger. I don't think Bradstreet would have been able to handle the deadline, but Frank Teran always struck me as an interesting artist who should have gotten more attention. Or, of course, Ellis' old Hellstorm teammate, Leo Manco, perhaps the single most underrated artist of the past twenty-five years. (He'd get his HB run later, though.) |
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