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Post by dbutler69 on Sept 22, 2015 17:32:33 GMT -5
I like Elasti-Girl's costume, and I love Hawk's costume. I'm not so keen on Beautiful Dreamer's, though I like the hippie name. I do sorta like her costume in your first image, but not so much in the other images.
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Post by Action Ace on Sept 22, 2015 19:55:06 GMT -5
I think my top 50 list would probably be a little too "Legiony."
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 23, 2015 1:16:49 GMT -5
Hmm, well, DC did do the socially relevant thing as early as 1970 in Green Lantern/Green Arrow, but that was rather a departure from the norm for DC. Yes, I'd agree that Marvel really took the lead with the more mature themes, generally. I think you have to look at War and Horror Comics more than any other genre for this discussion because they are generally the darkest/heaviest/most "mature" through the classic eras. . '50s - Marvel publishes Battlefield and Battlefront and other true-to-life-ish Kurtzman inspired war books. Dc (as far as I know) doesn't publish anything quite so dark. Even after the code gutted Marvel's war and horror lines, they're still putting out these short Ditko psychological thrillers. Advantage: Marvel.'60s - Sgt. Rock is darker and more 'relevant' than Sgt. Fury - lots of weighty themes and greater ethnic diversity earlier, with Jackie Johnson and Johnny Cloud. The new, revamped-into-EC-style House of Mystery debuts in '68. (Note: The Kubert Enemy Ace is still my favorite DC series of all time.) Advantage: DC. '70s - DC has a greater variety of non superhero-romance-teen humor comics, but Marvel has it's magazine line. Slight Advantage: Marvel. '80s - Thriller, Alan Moore's Swamp Thing, Camelot 3000, Watchmen.... vs. Epic comics. Advantage: Draw.I'm assuming you never read all the stuff Marvel UK published in the 80s, then, much of it by people like Alan Moore and Jamie Delano? From my POV, that gives them the edge. But I know that, aside from Moore's wonderfully dark Captain Britain, most of it was never reprinted in the US. |
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 23, 2015 1:19:02 GMT -5
Hawk and Dove's costumes are another example of great silver age costumes. Hawk's cape is unique and his and Dove's looks remind me a bit of Battle of the Planets. The red evokes anger and agreesion, while Dove's blue evokes calm and peace. Great dynamic between the brothers, a dynamic I believe DC did not take full advantage of. Hawk's look is a testament to great design as it is still being used (with a few tweaks) nearly 50 years later. Hawk is one of my favourite DC characters, though I never really developed an appreciation for him until the 80s, oddly enough, after the original Dove died. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 23, 2015 3:43:25 GMT -5
I think you have to look at War and Horror Comics more than any other genre for this discussion because they are generally the darkest/heaviest/most "mature" through the classic eras. . '50s - Marvel publishes Battlefield and Battlefront and other true-to-life-ish Kurtzman inspired war books. Dc (as far as I know) doesn't publish anything quite so dark. Even after the code gutted Marvel's war and horror lines, they're still putting out these short Ditko psychological thrillers. Advantage: Marvel.'60s - Sgt. Rock is darker and more 'relevant' than Sgt. Fury - lots of weighty themes and greater ethnic diversity earlier, with Jackie Johnson and Johnny Cloud. The new, revamped-into-EC-style House of Mystery debuts in '68. (Note: The Kubert Enemy Ace is still my favorite DC series of all time.) Advantage: DC. '70s - DC has a greater variety of non superhero-romance-teen humor comics, but Marvel has it's magazine line. Slight Advantage: Marvel. '80s - Thriller, Alan Moore's Swamp Thing, Camelot 3000, Watchmen.... vs. Epic comics. Advantage: Draw.I'm assuming you never read all the stuff Marvel UK published in the 80s, then, much of it by people like Alan Moore and Jamie Delano? From my POV, that gives them the edge. But I know that, aside from Moore's wonderfully dark Captain Britain, most of it was never reprinted in the US. Nope, except for Captain Britain. Post edited. I liked C.B. a lot but it was a lot more conventional/traditional than his stuff-that-was-published-in-America-through-DC or Eclipse. (I would really like to see a Best of Marvel UK Collection, and given the slew of reprints out of Marvel recently I'm not sure it's impossible.) |
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 23, 2015 4:33:56 GMT -5
I'm assuming you never read all the stuff Marvel UK published in the 80s, then, much of it by people like Alan Moore and Jamie Delano? From my POV, that gives them the edge. But I know that, aside from Moore's wonderfully dark Captain Britain, most of it was never reprinted in the US. Nope, except for Captain Britain. Post edited. I liked C.B. a lot but it was a lot more conventional/traditional than his stuff-that-was-published-in-America-through-DC or Eclipse. (I would really like to see a Best of Marvel UK Collection, and given the slew of reprints out of Marvel recently I'm not sure it's impossible.) Captain Britain was some of Moore's earliest work, which might account for that-though at around the same time, he was doing some much more edgy stuff for Warrior and 2000 AD, so maybe it was simply what was required by Marvel. He also did some very odd Star Wars and Doctor Who stuff for them, amongst other things, and a wonderful spoof of Frank Miller's Daredevil. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 8:15:22 GMT -5
#47 Speedy Alter Ego - Roy Harper First AppearanceMore Fun Comics #73 (November 1941) Golden/Silver/Bronze Ages - An Exception to the normCostume Features that I like the mostYellow Cap, Gloves, and Boots Very Traditional and fit well in any Comic Book Age Picture 1 Nice Streamlined Costume Here! Pictures 2 to 4   Great Action Shots of Speedy here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 8:27:00 GMT -5
#46 Rima Alter Ego - Rima First AppearanceMay 1974 Bronze Age Costume Features that I like the mostSimple Jungle Girl Costume White Hair - That's why she ranked #46! Nothing Fancy - Fit to the Bill Picture 1
First Edition of Rima Pictures 2 and 3  In her natural settings here. Picture 4 With Wonder Woman in the Superfriends Cartoon Show produced by Hanna Barbara.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 23, 2015 8:43:02 GMT -5
Rima! Wow, there's a blast from the past! Loved that series.
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Post by dbutler69 on Sept 23, 2015 12:19:10 GMT -5
I think my top 50 list would probably be a little too "Legiony." Me, too. Cockrum's Legion stuff would fill my list, with his Star Boy costume perhaps at #1. |
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Post by dbutler69 on Sept 23, 2015 15:39:31 GMT -5
I like the Speedy costume. I love the red & yellow color combination, and the costume is otherwise (except the boots) very much like his mentor's, Green Lantern.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 6:22:29 GMT -5
#45 Wonder Girl Original Alter Ego - Donna Troy First AppearanceThe Brave and the Bold #60 (June/July 1965) Silver Costume Features that I like the mostGolden Eagle Insignia, Nice Gold Trim on her Red Blouse Very Patriotic and quite simple design that I liked Pictures 1 and 2  Picture of Debra Winger who played Wonder Girl in Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman TV Sbow  One of the original Teen Titans I like this picture because she is front and center! ... I read a lot of Teen Titans back then!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 6:33:40 GMT -5
#44 Black Lighting Alter Ego - Jefferson Pierce First AppearanceBlack Lightning #1 (April 1977) Bronze Costume Features that I like the mostGood use of Blue and White, Nice Yellow Lighting Trim Loved the Yellow Belt - Gave it Class! White Color Trim too. Great Pictures of Black Lighting that I've liked   
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 9:33:51 GMT -5
I think my top 50 list would probably be a little too "Legiony." Me, too. Cockrum's Legion stuff would fill my list, with his Star Boy costume perhaps at #1. yep. . .the whole re-design list, w/ Phantom Girl, Saturn Girl, Shrinking Violet, Princess Projectra, and Starboy being the top 5. |
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Post by dbutler69 on Sept 24, 2015 11:47:48 GMT -5
Me, too. Cockrum's Legion stuff would fill my list, with his Star Boy costume perhaps at #1. yep. . .the whole re-design list, w/ Phantom Girl, Saturn Girl, Shrinking Violet, Princess Projectra, and Starboy being the top 5. Yes, especially Phantom Girl. One of my all-time favorites! |
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