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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 20, 2016 19:44:04 GMT -5
You and I seem to once again be reading very different comics! I mean, maybe literally. There's a lot of Atom stuff I've never read. But most of what I have read has been horrible. Like Alley Oop, Atom only interests me if it's a time-travel story You're missing lots of fun stuff.
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Post by dupersuper on Jan 20, 2016 20:36:24 GMT -5
That was easily Aquaman's worst era. I liked the whole long hair, beard and hook for a hand Aquaman. He was actually badass for a change. There are far worse eras of Aquaman out there. It's easy to dismiss the look as silly edgy 90s, but it was written by PAD so the actual stories were very good.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 20, 2016 20:57:13 GMT -5
I liked the whole long hair, beard and hook for a hand Aquaman. He was actually badass for a change. There are far worse eras of Aquaman out there. It's easy to dismiss the look as silly edgy 90s, but it was written by PAD so the actual stories were very good. That's what I've been doing. It was like everyone at DC had a bet to come up with the silliest, edgiest, 90est version of Aquaman, and the hook handed version was first place out of 26,000 entries. So really good? Or good as in '90s good*? * I'd probably argue that DC peaked in the '90s, actually, but that is 98% Stuck Rubber Baby and Sandman and Seven Miles a Second and Gregory and all that disturbing $%^&ing Peter Milligan $%^& and 2% their superhero books.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 21:15:25 GMT -5
That was easily Aquaman's worst era. I liked the whole long hair, beard and hook for a hand Aquaman. He was actually badass for a change. There are far worse eras of Aquaman out there. I will read just about anything PAD. I just have to prepare myself for what will probably be eyef#%&ery art. Art that will be so heavy and jarring that if I move my eyes off the page, I will see trails.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 20, 2016 22:11:10 GMT -5
Ray Palmer as The Atom is much more interesting than Hank "I don't know what superhero I am this week" Pym. There. I said it. I mean, as much as I love domestic violence (I do not love domestic violence) I 100% agree with you. the Atom is just better drawn, less weirdly Silver-Age sexist, funnier, and much less generic conceptually. Ant-Man stories can be divided into two categories: Classics for the Ages (IE Stories with the Scarlet Beetle in them) and kind of boring (everything else.) Meanwhile the Atom has been pretty damn solid in every incarnation - except maybe the Atom and Hawkman. I haven't read much, but what I did was pretty bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 22:24:56 GMT -5
It's easy to dismiss the look as silly edgy 90s, but it was written by PAD so the actual stories were very good. That's what I've been doing. It was like everyone at DC had a bet to come up with the silliest, edgiest, 90est version of Aquaman, and the hook handed version was first place out of 26,000 entries. So really good? Or good as in '90s good*? * I'd probably argue that DC peaked in the '90s, actually, but that is 98% Stuck Rubber Baby and Sandman and Seven Miles a Second and Gregory and all that disturbing $%^&ing Peter Milligan $%^& and 2% their superhero books. I think it's really good but then I have said numerous times that Peter David is my all time favorite writer so I may be a bit biased. But I love it. Really good art throughout too.
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Post by berkley on Jan 20, 2016 22:25:40 GMT -5
Haven't read any Atom comics but I remember them as featuring a lot of really good covers in the 60s from artists like Gil Kane.
Aquatic superheroes, I'll always take the Sub-Mariner over Aquaman, whose orange costume I just cannot get over, but my personal favourite as a kid was Triton from the Inhumans. And later on I liked Stingray, mainly because of his costume.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 22:32:54 GMT -5
I liked the whole long hair, beard and hook for a hand Aquaman. He was actually badass for a change. There are far worse eras of Aquaman out there. I will read just about anything PAD. I just have to prepare myself for what will probably be eyef#%&ery art. Art that will be so heavy and jarring that if I move my eyes off the page, I will see trails. I will read anything he writes. I have picked up numerous series that I had no interest in reading before that I picked up for no other reason he was writing it and I usually ended up loving it. I just love his writing that much. He has a great handling when it comes to mixing the dramatic with the comedic. And you really feel for the characters.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 20, 2016 22:36:45 GMT -5
Haven't read any Atom comics but I remember them as featuring a lot of really good covers in the 60s from artists like Gil Kane. The interiors were just as good! The whole package just worked for me - The combination of Kane's propulsive dynamism and Fox's weird sensahumor made the Atom about the best comic ever for funny visual gags. (Something that current writers and artists couldn't pull of if their lives depended on it, he curmungeonally muttered.*) * Except for Garth Ennis.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 20, 2016 22:42:18 GMT -5
I will read just about anything PAD. I just have to prepare myself for what will probably be eyef#%&ery art. Art that will be so heavy and jarring that if I move my eyes off the page, I will see trails. I will read anything he writes. I have picked up numerous series that I had no interest in reading before that I picked up for no other reason he was writing it and I usually ended up loving it. I just love his writing that much. He has a great handling when it comes to mixing the dramatic with the comedic. And you really feel for the characters. I had the entire PAD Aquaman run and his Hulk run. He writes good comics.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 22:49:59 GMT -5
I will read anything he writes. I have picked up numerous series that I had no interest in reading before that I picked up for no other reason he was writing it and I usually ended up loving it. I just love his writing that much. He has a great handling when it comes to mixing the dramatic with the comedic. And you really feel for the characters. I had the entire PAD Aquaman run and his Hulk run. He writes good comics. I have both runs myself and I try to reread them every few years. I like PAD's Rick Jones. There. I said it.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 20, 2016 23:01:30 GMT -5
I had the entire PAD Aquaman run and his Hulk run. He writes good comics. I have both runs myself and I try to reread them every few years. I like PAD's Rick Jones. There. I said it.I knew it! I Knew there was another Rick Jones fan out there!!!!
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Post by Confessor on Jan 20, 2016 23:17:40 GMT -5
AH cool aquatic heroes and their costumes... just remember in comics, there's fans and someone's gonna cosplay it... 'Nuff said! -M Sorry, but I'd run off with my hand covering my mouth to muffle the giggles....they look positively awful... Male cosplay is a good reminder of just how dorky most superheroes would actually look if they existed in the real world.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 0:21:47 GMT -5
I have both runs myself and I try to reread them every few years. I like PAD's Rick Jones. There. I said it.I knew it! I Knew there was another Rick Jones fan out there!!!! I thought I was the only one! Don't care what the naysayers say. I like Rick Jones. There. I said it. AGAIN.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 21, 2016 8:48:06 GMT -5
I liked Rick Jones from the beginning from the Hulk to Cap America to Captain Marvel and I heard he was in Rom as well.
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