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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 24, 2016 12:00:07 GMT -5
I have a theory that Ryan Reynolds and Ben Affleck made a secret pact to hog as many superhero roles as possible just to piss off all the fans. Something must be done. They need to make a new DD movie and have the current Netflix actor play DD. Because that guy is definitely swoon-worthy. Oh, and a great actor, too. I'm looking forward to swooning a bit for Elektra. I've still yet to find a replacement for my Lucy Lawless as Xena crush.
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Post by Pharozonk on Jan 24, 2016 12:00:47 GMT -5
David Michelinie's Amazing Spider-man run is the best run the character has had. There I said it. And since McFarlane was the artist of a good chunk of that run, would you rate his work above that of Ditko, Romita, Kane, Andru, and others who have worked on the character? Because art is at least half of what makes up the quality of a run-you can't have a quality run of visually told stories without the visuals and have to be taken into account when you you claim something is the best ever... -M I'm indifferent to McFarlane's style for the most part. It works in some places, especially when he draws villains, and fails in other aspects, such as when he draws women. However, I do prefer Michelinie's writing to Lee's or Stern so that puts his run ahead of theirs even if they had better artists working with them.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 24, 2016 12:03:38 GMT -5
For me, Aquaman is one of those characters (of which o have several) that I like, enjoy, appreciate and want around, but I don't necessarily "care about" or personally want to read their solo adventures. Guest appearances or as part of a team or just knowing he's out there is satisfying enough for me. This is pretty much how I feel about The Flash and Green Lantern. Great concepts...but I just don't care about them enough to really get into their solo series. The work best for me in the JLA. I'm the same with Thor. And characters like Green Arrow.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 24, 2016 12:06:27 GMT -5
I'd agree that FF was a stronger book overall, although Justice League was better in quite a few respects. The plots were so much tighter. For every Galactus Trilogystory or Battle of the Baxter Bulding in FF you'd have a filler issue with the Sandman or something like the first Inhumans story where the plot just fizzled into nothing. But Avengers.. I will defend issues 1-10 and 16-24 to the death, but some of that stuff right before Buscema started on the book was just tired going-through-the-Marvel-style-motions. While JLA was having epic battles between the Spectre and the Anti-Matter Man while Earth One is gonna crash into Earth Two Goliath was whining about being stuck at ten feet for eight pages in every...freaking... issue. Honestly, I think Avengers probably peaked right after issue 50, terrible X-men crossover aside. Avengers 52, 57 and 58 are my absolute favorites. I agree with much of that you say, except the Pym storylines. Pym was one of my favorite silver age characters. Disagree about it peaking that soon. Good to great stories until issue #300. Nothing worth reading after that. Oh, I don't know about that! The post Heroes Return/pre Disassembled stuff was mostly pretty good!
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 24, 2016 12:07:57 GMT -5
This is pretty much how I feel about The Flash and Green Lantern. Great concepts...but I just don't care about them enough to really get into their solo series. The work best for me in the JLA. I'm the same with Thor. And characters like Green Arrow. I'm a Thor fan, but he's always worked best for me when the mythology is utilized properly. That's why the Lee/Kirby and Simonson runs are so great. Kirby and Walt knew their Norse Mythology, which of course is what makes Thor unique. When that's not utilized, Thor just doesn't work as a solo series.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 24, 2016 12:12:42 GMT -5
What are your feelings on cheeseburger pizza? Cheeseburger are better than steak for me. The Cheeseburger metaphor in this instance( JLA) was boring as can be. For me, JLA doesn't really become interesting until around the time Zatanna shows up. I mean, I own most of the earlier stuff, and it's often quite fun and historically interesting, but I won't pull that sixties stuff out and reread it the way I will the 70s issues, stories like the SSOSV three parters or the murder of Mr Terrific. And i was always more interested in characters like Zee, Elongated Man, firestorm and Reddy than in the big names who had tbeir own books.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 12:15:23 GMT -5
I have a theory that Ryan Reynolds and Ben Affleck made a secret pact to hog as many superhero roles as possible just to piss off all the fans. Something must be done. Yet Chris Evans has more than both of them combined it seems and no one seems upset -M
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 24, 2016 12:15:24 GMT -5
David Michelinie's Amazing Spider-man run is the best run the character has had. There I said it. That's bold of you. I am partial to the stories from 190-260. As am I, a great time for the book.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 24, 2016 12:20:47 GMT -5
What hurts the early JLA stuff for me is the depiction of Batman. I like the early Batman stuff from 1939 to around 1945, but after that he's simply not the character I came to know and love until roughly 1970. The rest of the JLA fit right into the Atomic Age and early Silver Age vibe, but that era wasn't kind to Batman and certainly didn't illustrate the characters strengths.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 24, 2016 12:25:10 GMT -5
Being really into your favorite characters (and ignoring characters you don't like) is silly. Especially with characters who have 40 years of adventures. They've been changed and reinterpreted so much and some of it is going to be really good! And a lot of it will be bad. And SOME of it will be really different from the stuff you don't like. Even when they're not doing CRISIS style reboots, comic characters get soft-rebooted into completely different characters all the time. Not sure about this. I have been a lifelong fan of two characters in particular: Captain Britain, and the Jay Garrick Flash (not the new travesty, obviously, who is not the same character). In forty years, I don't think I could name one story by any writer in which Jay acted out of character, or which I didn't enjoy him in. And I'd be able to say the same for CB, if not for a couple of truly dreadful storylines in Excalibur (I still haven't forgiven Scott Lobdell for what he did to Brian Braddock).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 13:17:11 GMT -5
That's bold of you. I am partial to the stories from 190-260. As am I, a great time for the book. Those are some great comics and some of my favorites. Except for the abysmal O'Neil run. I hated those issues except for a couple of books. I liked the Sub-Mariner issues.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 14:02:56 GMT -5
They need to make a new DD movie and have the current Netflix actor play DD. Because that guy is definitely swoon-worthy. Oh, and a great actor, too. I saw him first. Go swoon over Foggy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 16:18:28 GMT -5
They need to make a new DD movie and have the current Netflix actor play DD. Because that guy is definitely swoon-worthy. Oh, and a great actor, too. I saw him first. Go swoon over Foggy No way. I need Mr. Resting-Snarl-Lip-Face.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 24, 2016 16:50:20 GMT -5
I agree with much of that you say, except the Pym storylines. Pym was one of my favorite silver age characters. Disagree about it peaking that soon. Good to great stories until issue #300. Nothing worth reading after that. Oh, I don't know about that! The post Heroes Return/pre Disassembled stuff was mostly pretty good! Yes. I meant v.1. Good stuff in the Busiek run.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 24, 2016 16:58:19 GMT -5
Cheeseburger are better than steak for me. The Cheeseburger metaphor in this instance( JLA) was boring as can be. For me, JLA doesn't really become interesting until around the time Zatanna shows up. I mean, I own most of the earlier stuff, and it's often quite fun and historically interesting, but I won't pull that sixties stuff out and reread it the way I will the 70s issues, stories like the SSOSV three parters or the murder of Mr Terrific. And i was always more interested in characters like Zee, Elongated Man, firestorm and Reddy than in the big names who had tbeir own books. The pre 70's JLA is like beautiful looking food that, when you taste it, is bland without flavor. Lots of nice costumes and heroes running around but absolutely no personality.
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