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Post by tartanphantom on Jan 29, 2024 15:35:22 GMT -5
Actually, it would probably pass the smell test if the swastika on the cover were obfuscated in the image, and people didn't use stupid, baiting keywords when listing it. It's probably an AI algorithm item-scan picking it up and flagging it, not an individual.
But the paperback novel is not affected and that has a swastika on it too.
Good point. That may mean that it's being flagged by some over-zealous triggered would-be "buyer" with nothing better to do, who has absolutely no idea that the book is explicitly anti-Nazi in tone.
It's got to be something along those lines, because I just did a quick search of certain war comics titles with that specific symbol on the cover, and they are still listed. Also, DC's Night Force #13 is still being listed as well.
Some uninformed 80-IQ idiot is being triggered by the book's title and cover image, which I would say is somewhat deceptively provocative, and not really reflective of the actual storyline.
As such, this trend will likely pass whenever the reporter gets bored or finds something else to complain about... like the complete runs of Captain Confederacy (another book with a very deceptive title, and a very abolitionist plot, Marvel/Epic even continued the book for 4 issues) on the very same Ebay site.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 1, 2024 16:27:43 GMT -5
I'll never forgive George Perez for leaving the Infinity Gauntlet to draw War of the Gods at Dc. I said it.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 1, 2024 19:15:16 GMT -5
I'll never forgive George Perez for leaving the Infinity Gauntlet to draw War of the Gods at Dc. I said it. Wrong way around. War of the Gods came first and Infinity Gauntlet intruded upon his work on it and the workload caused him to slow down and Marvel assigned Ron Lim to take over. Perez had pitched War of the Gods as both a Wonder Woman 50th Anniversary project and the big DC crossover series. However, between editor Karen berger being out on maternity leave and complications with both a proposed John Byrne Shazam series and the Titans continuity, around Donna Troy, the project was delayed and DC editorial was not interested in it being the company-wide crossover. Perez was only originally supposed to do layouts, but found himself contractually obligated to complete it. In the delays in getting the project underway, Jim Starlin offered him Infinity Gauntlet, which Perez thought was going to be the final chapter of Thanos; but they were talking sequel before they were half way into it. Perez lost enthusiasm and also felt that Starlin was padding his story well beyond the necessities of the plot and lost his enthusiasm. That, coupled with the double project workload, with a multitude of characters in each, killed Perez's enthusiasm for either and his place slowed greatly. Source: George Perez: Storyteller, pgs 86-90 It ended up souring his relationship with DC (and his exclusive contract was up) and somewhat with Marvel, though Hulk: Future Imperfect improved that.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 1, 2024 19:24:37 GMT -5
War of the Gods was crap.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 1, 2024 20:25:12 GMT -5
War of the Gods was crap. Not saying it wasn't; but, it also wasn't what he had envisioned and politics at DC made it worse, as well as his workload. I agree with him, though, that Starlin padded out Infinity Gauntlet longer than it needed to be and I kind of felt the same way with the movie version, across the two Avengers films. You could probably cut a third out of each film and have a better story.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 1, 2024 20:37:50 GMT -5
War of the Gods was crap. Not saying it wasn't; but, it also wasn't what he had envisioned and politics at DC made it worse, as well as his workload. I agree with him, though, that Starlin padded out Infinity Gauntlet longer than it needed to be and I kind of felt the same way with the movie version, across the two Avengers films. You could probably cut a third out of each film and have a better story. I’m saying that sometimes you make the wrong decision. IG is an evergreen tpb and War of Gods is forgotten.
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Post by berkley on Feb 1, 2024 23:31:54 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of either the Infinity Gauntlet or Wonder Woman but if I had to choose I'd take IG, mostly because I'd rather see Perez drawing Marvel characters than DC.
I wonder, since he was such a popular artist, did Marvel ever offer Perez his choice of book? Like, "Listen George, which series or character would you most like to do? Thor? Spider-Man? OK, it's yours for as long as you want it!" Or did that kind of thing never happen, as it seems to have done with writers, at least on occasion.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 2, 2024 0:51:13 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of either the Infinity Gauntlet or Wonder Woman but if I had to choose I'd take IG, mostly because I'd rather see Perez drawing Marvel characters than DC. I wonder, since he was such a popular artist, did Marvel ever offer Perez his choice of book? Like, "Listen George, which series or character would you most like to do? Thor? Spider-Man? OK, it's yours for as long as you want it!" Or did that kind of thing never happen, as it seems to have done with writers, at least on occasion. Kind of happened with Avengers, for the Heroes Return run.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 2, 2024 2:08:44 GMT -5
I don’t think he ever expressed a desire to write or take over a book until he was at DC and saw the likes of Byrne and Miller become top stars on Superman and Batman. He did write Silver Surfer years later.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 2, 2024 8:16:35 GMT -5
Maybe it is because I started out with Silver Surfer (when Starlin started it) and an issue of X-Men 2099 being one of the first comics I bought that I would have preferred Ron Lim do the whole story. Nothing against Mr Perez a very talented artist. I guess I was just use to those characters being drawn by Ron Lim.
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 2, 2024 9:06:14 GMT -5
Perez lost enthusiasm and also felt that Starlin was padding his story well beyond the necessities of the plot and lost his enthusiasm. Wow, Starlin was a true visionary. Today, neither DC or Marvel can do a series without several issues of padding.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 2, 2024 12:17:56 GMT -5
Maybe it is because I started out with Silver Surfer (when Starlin started it) and an issue of X-Men 2099 being one of the first comics I bought that I would have preferred Ron Lim do the whole story. Nothing against Mr Perez a very talented artist. I guess I was just use to those characters being drawn by Ron Lim. I think IG was the only mini series that I can remember where they lost their artist and the replacement didn't hurt the finished product. I think Lim should have more acclaim than he does.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 2, 2024 14:07:51 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of either the Infinity Gauntlet or Wonder Woman but if I had to choose I'd take IG, mostly because I'd rather see Perez drawing Marvel characters than DC. I wonder, since he was such a popular artist, did Marvel ever offer Perez his choice of book? Like, "Listen George, which series or character would you most like to do? Thor? Spider-Man? OK, it's yours for as long as you want it!" Or did that kind of thing never happen, as it seems to have done with writers, at least on occasion. I would have been very intrigued to see Perez do Thor. I don't really care much for Wondie as a character, but George seemed to embrace the mythology of the series well
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Post by berkley on Feb 2, 2024 20:29:47 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of either the Infinity Gauntlet or Wonder Woman but if I had to choose I'd take IG, mostly because I'd rather see Perez drawing Marvel characters than DC. I wonder, since he was such a popular artist, did Marvel ever offer Perez his choice of book? Like, "Listen George, which series or character would you most like to do? Thor? Spider-Man? OK, it's yours for as long as you want it!" Or did that kind of thing never happen, as it seems to have done with writers, at least on occasion. I would have been very intrigued to see Perez do Thor. I don't really care much for Wondie as a character, but George seemed to embrace the mythology of the series well
I still haven't read much of it though I've bought a few back-issues from the early part of the run. He did create a fantastic character design for Ares, and if he'd been able to do as much for the other Olympians that would have been almost worth the price of admission in itself. I don't believe he did, unfortunately, but perhaps I haven't seen enough to judge - I find I can't readily picture to myself his Zeus, Hera, etc, whether that means that I haven't seen them or that they just weren't strong enough to make an impression the way his Ares immediately did, I don't know.
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 2, 2024 21:58:41 GMT -5
I'll never forgive George Perez for leaving the Infinity Gauntlet to draw War of the Gods at Dc. I said it. No loss.
The IG story, especially the one on film--was a bloated train-wreck of a story.
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