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Post by MDG on Jun 28, 2023 8:27:03 GMT -5
Beware of fake Incredible Hulk 181s.....people who create these forgeries should be hanged and quartered.
The pages are really glossy. It's particularly striking when they compare the fake to an actual old comic. That was my original thought when i saw this (haven't watched the video yet). I imagine it would be difficult to computer print on comparable newsprint stock, even if you could find it. If they are being printed on other kinds of paper, they're suckering people who don't really know what they're buying, Like the folks in the 70s who bought DC Famous First Editions as the real thing even though they books were twice the size of the originals. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 28, 2023 8:50:08 GMT -5
I imagine it’s a crime you can only get away with a few times.
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Post by tarkintino on Jun 28, 2023 10:12:23 GMT -5
Like the folks in the 70s who bought DC Famous First Editions as the real thing even though they books were twice the size of the originals. In the 80s, I recall volumes of Overstreet's The Comic Book Price Guide bearing the Famous First Edition warning in that listing. That said, I never understood how any comic collector could be fooled by tabloid-sized copies of Golden Age books when anyone--especially in the 80s, when the Overstreet guides were printing that warning--a period when GA books were far easier to see and/or buy. I know the "get rich" / "investment" and "I heard rare comics are going for a bazillion bucks!" novices could be fooled, but to those who ever attended a convention, lived near a comic shop or used bookstore that sold ragged GA/SA comics, one would think they could not be fooled by a tabloid-sized reprint. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 28, 2023 10:18:17 GMT -5
Well, and there is the old saying that "You can't con an honest man." I always remember the words of consumer advocate David Horowitz. He used to have a syndicated show, in the mid-late 70s, where he tested claims in commercials. Every episode began and ended with the phrase, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!"
Copies of that Hulk issue don't turn up often, especially after the X-Men took off, in the late 70s and prices for anything related started skyrocketing. By the time of Miller & Claremont's Wolverine mini, you were likely to pay double digits for anything with Wolverine and that comic was climbing even faster. Regardless, any 1970s comic that is anything like a mint condition is going to be an outlier. We read and handled our comics back then.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 28, 2023 10:20:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd be really wary of any super high condition book before 1980 that's not graded at this point. (not that I'd ever buy such a thing.. I'm a reading copy kinda guy)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2023 20:57:12 GMT -5
Today I rejected a CGC graded 9.6 because I think they over-graded it. The book had a solid black spine so the single colour-breaking spine ding was quite conspicuous, so was the colour rub. I'd be generous if I gave it a VF, or 8.0 on that scale. Shame though, I was getting a $250 item for less than $50 if I took it.
Although I do respect these 3rd party graders most of the time, this was one occassion I gave it a thumbs down.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 29, 2023 10:14:12 GMT -5
The pages are really glossy. It's particularly striking when they compare the fake to an actual old comic. That was my original thought when i saw this (haven't watched the video yet). I imagine it would be difficult to computer print on comparable newsprint stock, even if you could find it. If they are being printed on other kinds of paper, they're suckering people who don't really know what they're buying, Like the folks in the 70s who bought DC Famous First Editions as the real thing even though they books were twice the size of the originals. The old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" still is true. I read somewhere that somebody a few years ago had put West Virginia (maybe I'm misremembering which state it was) up for action and actually had bids! Of course, ebay shut down the auction before any money changed hands, but there were people who actually thought you could buy a US state on ebay!! |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 29, 2023 10:17:52 GMT -5
That was my original thought when i saw this (haven't watched the video yet). I imagine it would be difficult to computer print on comparable newsprint stock, even if you could find it. If they are being printed on other kinds of paper, they're suckering people who don't really know what they're buying, Like the folks in the 70s who bought DC Famous First Editions as the real thing even though they books were twice the size of the originals. The old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" still is true. I read somewhere that somebody a few years ago had put West Virginia (maybe I'm misremembering which state it was) up for action and actually had bids! Of course, ebay shut down the auction before any money changed hands, but there were people who actually thought you could buy a US state on ebay!! Well, like most states, you could probably buy its government pretty easily..........and cheaply. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 29, 2023 10:38:54 GMT -5
I imagine it’s a crime you can only get away with a few times. You say that like a man who knows what he's talking about... |
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Post by tartanphantom on Jun 29, 2023 12:23:13 GMT -5
I imagine it’s a crime you can only get away with a few times. You say that like a man who knows what he's talking about...
Well, he is spitting distance from NJ, and it's fairly common knowledge that the NJ state motto is " It's only illegal if you get caught." 
It's only natural that a similar line of thinking might occasionally float across Arthur Kill into Staten... most likely from the Perth Amboy end of the kill.
Fugeddaboutit. Sorry, I can't use normal Jersey conversational vernacular here; the F-bomb used as a frequent conversational comma doesn't translate well to a friendly forum.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 29, 2023 15:16:12 GMT -5
You say that like a man who knows what he's talking about...
Well, he is spitting distance from NJ, and it's fairly common knowledge that the NJ state motto is " It's only illegal if you get caught."
It's only natural that a similar line of thinking might occasionally float across Arthur Kill into Staten... most likely from the Perth Amboy end of the kill.
Fugeddaboutit. Sorry, I can't use normal Jersey conversational vernacular here; the F-bomb used as a frequent conversational comma doesn't translate well to a friendly forum.
Unaware as you are that I am Jersey-born and bred, I will refrain from too much criticism of your attempt to spell like you came from the Garden State. However, next time, remember that it's "fugeddaboudit." Wid a "d." |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 29, 2023 19:20:19 GMT -5
You say that like a man who knows what he's talking about...
Well, he is spitting distance from NJ, and it's fairly common knowledge that the NJ state motto is " It's only illegal if you get caught."
It's only natural that a similar line of thinking might occasionally float across Arthur Kill into Staten... most likely from the Perth Amboy end of the kill.
Fugeddaboutit. Sorry, I can't use normal Jersey conversational vernacular here; the F-bomb used as a frequent conversational comma doesn't translate well to a friendly forum.
I don’t care how much you besmirch the fine borough of Staten Island, I will not delete my account. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Jun 29, 2023 19:29:24 GMT -5
Beware of fake Incredible Hulk 181s.....people who create these forgeries should be hanged and quartered.
Man, now I want a comic book themed rendition of "Catch Me If You Can"...
Really interesting video though
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 29, 2023 20:00:42 GMT -5
Well, he is spitting distance from NJ, and it's fairly common knowledge that the NJ state motto is " It's only illegal if you get caught."
It's only natural that a similar line of thinking might occasionally float across Arthur Kill into Staten... most likely from the Perth Amboy end of the kill.
Fugeddaboutit. Sorry, I can't use normal Jersey conversational vernacular here; the F-bomb used as a frequent conversational comma doesn't translate well to a friendly forum.
I don’t care how much you besmirch the fine borough of Staten Island, I will not delete my account. You mean the island New York stole from New Jersey. Where we all went via the Bayonne Bridge when the drinking age was 18 in NYC and 21 in Jersey... |
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Post by kirby101 on Jun 29, 2023 20:18:50 GMT -5
We didn't steal it, won it in a boat race. But Jersey can have it back.  |
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