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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 23, 2019 9:32:43 GMT -5
So... recognizing that this thread is here and is 30 pages long... would people rather see a story-by-story review thread of Silver Age LSH from the beginning, or a thread covering the Mark Waid era in the mid 00s? Well, my personal interest is the Cockrum and Grell years, on up through Levitz & Giffen; but, that's when I discovered it and read it. The Silver Age had great stories, though I prefer the later art, as much as I like Swan on Superman. The Legion was better with more dynamic art. Besides, I prefer the funkier costumes. I mean, come on; Cosmic Boy in a corset or Cos in his pink George Jetson outfit? In terms of art, I agree that's the best era (though Greg LaRocque's art in the Baxter series could give them a serious run for their money) but in terms of writing, I'm a Levitz guy first and foremost. |
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Post by hondobrode on Mar 23, 2019 13:46:14 GMT -5
Levitz was great on the v3 (Baxter) and really kicked into high gear with The Great Darkness Saga. His work before then was ok but nothing to write home about IMO.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 31, 2019 20:52:39 GMT -5
So... recognizing that this thread is here and is 30 pages long... would people rather see a story-by-story review thread of Silver Age LSH from the beginning, or a thread covering the Mark Waid era in the mid 00s? 'My' Legion was the triangle era.. though the Waid book was pretty good too. That said, I'd probably be most interested in a thread from the Silver age, since I've not read many of those. |
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Post by rberman on Mar 31, 2019 21:32:22 GMT -5
So... recognizing that this thread is here and is 30 pages long... would people rather see a story-by-story review thread of Silver Age LSH from the beginning, or a thread covering the Mark Waid era in the mid 00s? 'My' Legion was the triangle era.. though the Waid book was pretty good too. That said, I'd probably be most interested in a thread from the Silver age, since I've not read many of those. A Waid Legion thread will begin next week. I will keep Silver Age LSH in mind for a possible future thread. |
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Post by dbutler69 on Apr 3, 2019 18:15:39 GMT -5
I'm into the Bronze Age Legion more than anything, and especially the Levitz stuff(Cockkrum and Grell, too) but I'll check out the Waid thread, anyway.
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Post by String on Jun 9, 2019 14:36:57 GMT -5
 The Great Darkness Saga deservedly gets praise as one of the best LSH epics but I think one arc that tends to get overlooked in a similar fashion is the Legion of Super-Villain arc from LSH (vol 3) #1-6. The reborn LSV attack suddenly and quickly with their overall intentions unknown. The villains seem more organized, more powerful and the Legion seems overwhelmed. Levitz adds to the drama by focusing on long-standing Ranzz family issues. Mekt Ranzz, Lightning Lord, is far more chilling here, how powers seemed to have warped his mind and he becomes singularly obsessed with Light Lass especially after her capture by the LSV. Mekt, a lone child born on a world more accustomed to twin births, eagerly wants Ayla to join his cause (to the point of torture) even though she has reluctantly left the Legion prior to this new assault. Throw in Garth (Lightning Lad) being torn between his duties to the Legion and becoming a brand new father with Imra and the whole family crisis seems about to boil over the galaxy. Levtiz makes this new attack even more personal, the LSV's new leader is Nemesis Kid who seems poised to become a truly menacing foe for the Legion. However the LSV's goals are set on the planet Orando with their newly married royalty of Princess Projectra and Karate Kid. An ensuing brutal and violent duel leads to one death and sends another on a mission of revenge for love. Giffen, Lightle and Mahlstedt handle the art superbly with every punch and emotion possible. Joe Orlando spotlights #6 on the epilogue of Ayla and Mekt as some form of family resolution is (temporarily) sought. With this arc, I think Levitz matched his work on Great Darkness, two such arcs back-to-back is quite amazing. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 9, 2019 23:15:38 GMT -5
Looking over some of the books of material collected from a Greg Shaw music fanzine titled Bomp makes me think that someone should do a collection of material from the old Legion Outpost fanzines. It's something I've only heard about, never seen, and i did have some obscure fanzines. Amazing World Of DC had that special Legion issue (and Foom an X-men issue) with nice Dave Cockrum artwork... reproductions of those would be more fun than yet another Action #1 or Amazing Fantasy #15 reprint! Or I could win a lottery.
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Post by Farrar on Jun 10, 2019 8:32:13 GMT -5
Looking over some of the books of material collected from a Greg Shaw music fanzine titled Bomp makes me think that someone should do a collection of material from the old Legion Outpost fanzines. It's something I've only heard about, never seen, and i did have some obscure fanzines... TwoMorrows published a "Best of the Legion Outpost." Great resource. Available on Amazon and other fine vendors www.amazon.com/Best-Legion-Outpost-Glen-Cadigan/dp/1893905365A couple of years ago at a non-comics event I met someone who was part of the Legion Outpost gang. Somehow the conversation turned to old superhero comics and he said to me "We saved the Legion!" Later on I showed him the book and as he'd been away from comics for decades he was surprised to see his old columns/articles replicated in the book (and online!). |
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 10, 2019 10:16:02 GMT -5
The Great Darkness Saga deservedly gets praise as one of the best LSH epics but I think one arc that tends to get overlooked in a similar fashion is the Legion of Super-Villain arc from LSH (vol 3) #1-6. The reborn LSV attack suddenly and quickly with their overall intentions unknown. The villains seem more organized, more powerful and the Legion seems overwhelmed. Levitz adds to the drama by focusing on long-standing Ranzz family issues. Mekt Ranzz, Lightning Lord, is far more chilling here, how powers seemed to have warped his mind and he becomes singularly obsessed with Light Lass especially after her capture by the LSV. Mekt, a lone child born on a world more accustomed to twin births, eagerly wants Ayla to join his cause (to the point of torture) even though she has reluctantly left the Legion prior to this new assault. Throw in Garth (Lightning Lad) being torn between his duties to the Legion and becoming a brand new father with Imra and the whole family crisis seems about to boil over the galaxy. Levtiz makes this new attack even more personal, the LSV's new leader is Nemesis Kid who seems poised to become a truly menacing foe for the Legion. However the LSV's goals are set on the planet Orando with their newly married royalty of Princess Projectra and Karate Kid. An ensuing brutal and violent duel leads to one death and sends another on a mission of revenge for love. Giffen, Lightle and Mahlstedt handle the art superbly with every punch and emotion possible. Joe Orlando spotlights #6 on the epilogue of Ayla and Mekt as some form of family resolution is (temporarily) sought. With this arc, I think Levitz matched his work on Great Darkness, two such arcs back-to-back is quite amazing. I read this storyline when it was reprinted in the non-Baxter Tales of the Legion of Super-Heroes. OH BABY! It's pretty awesome. I think it's quite a bit better than The Great Darkness "Saga," which I've always thought was at least a little over-rated. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 10, 2019 13:12:54 GMT -5
Wow, cool about the Legion Outpost book. It might be I read something alluding to it somewhere and the idea of it lingered. There's something about comics with a lot of people with different code names and costumes (and other planets) that still gets me excited somehow. Odd since my first exposure was a John Forte reprint in a 100pager where the heroines try to get rid of the heroes... very silly story. I think Dave Cockrum saved the comic at one point, though Jim Shooter's stories were a step up from many of the older ones with that whole DC someone acting evil or crazy stuff (if they weren't turning into an ape or being inflated).
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 10, 2019 22:47:34 GMT -5
I feel fairly fortunate to have found a copy of the Twomorrows Best Of The Legion Outpost tome with some minor shelf wear for just under $20 and ordered. I saw some parts of it and think it will be well worth it.
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 10, 2019 23:16:52 GMT -5
I've got it.
Yep it's a goodie.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 11, 2019 11:41:34 GMT -5
The Great Darkness Saga deservedly gets praise as one of the best LSH epics but I think one arc that tends to get overlooked in a similar fashion is the Legion of Super-Villain arc from LSH (vol 3) #1-6. The reborn LSV attack suddenly and quickly with their overall intentions unknown. The villains seem more organized, more powerful and the Legion seems overwhelmed. Levitz adds to the drama by focusing on long-standing Ranzz family issues. Mekt Ranzz, Lightning Lord, is far more chilling here, how powers seemed to have warped his mind and he becomes singularly obsessed with Light Lass especially after her capture by the LSV. Mekt, a lone child born on a world more accustomed to twin births, eagerly wants Ayla to join his cause (to the point of torture) even though she has reluctantly left the Legion prior to this new assault. Throw in Garth (Lightning Lad) being torn between his duties to the Legion and becoming a brand new father with Imra and the whole family crisis seems about to boil over the galaxy. Levtiz makes this new attack even more personal, the LSV's new leader is Nemesis Kid who seems poised to become a truly menacing foe for the Legion. However the LSV's goals are set on the planet Orando with their newly married royalty of Princess Projectra and Karate Kid. An ensuing brutal and violent duel leads to one death and sends another on a mission of revenge for love. Giffen, Lightle and Mahlstedt handle the art superbly with every punch and emotion possible. Joe Orlando spotlights #6 on the epilogue of Ayla and Mekt as some form of family resolution is (temporarily) sought. With this arc, I think Levitz matched his work on Great Darkness, two such arcs back-to-back is quite amazing. I agree that this is a top notch Legion saga, pretty close to The Great Darkness Saga. And Lightle is really fantastic. Maybe even my favorite Legion artist?! |
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 11, 2019 11:48:22 GMT -5
Wow, cool about the Legion Outpost book. It might be I read something alluding to it somewhere and the idea of it lingered. There's something about comics with a lot of people with different code names and costumes (and other planets) that still gets me excited somehow. Odd since my first exposure was a John Forte reprint in a 100pager where the heroines try to get rid of the heroes... very silly story. I think Dave Cockrum saved the comic at one point, though Jim Shooter's stories were a step up from many of the older ones with that whole DC someone acting evil or crazy stuff (if they weren't turning into an ape or being inflated). Yes, Jim Shooter's stories were a big step up (though I think the Edmond Hamilton stuff was infinitely better than the stuff written by Jerry Siegel, Otto Binder, and Robert Bernstein) but I also agree that Dave Cockrum really took the Legion to another level. I think that's where they started to achieve greatness (though I also think some of Shooter's better stories were great also). From there it was only a small step down to Mike Grell, then a merry-go-round of artists, some very good and some not so good, until Keith Giffen comes along. |
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Post by brutalis on Jun 13, 2019 12:21:02 GMT -5
ComicsBeat has LOSH information! Written by Bendis and art by Ryan Sook . 1st up is a 2 issue series: Legion of Super-Heroes: Millenium which will set up the ongoing. The 2 parter is a tour guide taking readers through the long journey into the 31st century including looks at those future history connections: Supergirl, Batman Beyond, Kamandi, Tommy Tomorrow, Booster Gold, OMAC, DC off-world chapter and then LOSH. Afterwards Bendis/Sook will follow up with the LOSH ongoing (no premiere date as yet) from there.
Article includes some pictures from the interior 2-parter. The Legion gets a revamped but recognizable Logo as well as new uniforms/costumes. The art shows off Brainiac 5, Chameleon Boy, Cosmic Boy, Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl and Shadow Lass. All easily identifiable but updated and slightly more futuristic in design. Chameleon Boy and Shadow Lass while humanoid receiving more "alien" looking styles. This may well be the energetic boost the LOSH needs to reclaim their fame and notoriety as fan favorites!
Previews all look interesting and good so far. Makes another new comic series worth looking into. Way to go DC...
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