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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 16:52:38 GMT -5
beccabear67 ... I'm thinking of reading Supergirl and the Legion later on this year and I have a friend that has the complete set and thanks for your suggestion here. I think it was sabongero posting a cover of #17 that let me know the series with her in the title even existed (nothing about it in the Supergirl solo title from the same time period which seems a by mistake by DC, at least up to #10 where I ended). I got Legion #1-15, Supergirl & The Legion #16-30 and am going to end there as it looks like there is a permanent creative team change after that. Thanks for letting me know about sabongero and all that and the heads up too.
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 28, 2018 23:17:52 GMT -5
Well, there I go again; came into a really nice deal on some of the early Mike Grell Legions, a couple of which I'd had at one time, so bought 'em: #207, 209-215 and 217. I couldn't refuse! I feel now I'll have a respectable if small '70s DC collection with three Metal Men, a couple Warlords, and a First Issue Special Dr. Fate (plus maybe a couple All Star Comics). I'm not even going to say 'no more' because that trick never works.
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Post by zaku on Oct 6, 2018 5:58:11 GMT -5
Comic books constantly ignore the law of conservation of energy anyway. In real life, pretty much any super-punch would be fatal to a regular human, rather than just sending him flying. And any blow that renders you unconscious would also leave you impaired for days to weeks. Yep. A lot of non-powered Superheroes/villains should be on a wheelchair or dead by now. I mean, a lot of comic books fights are just the good guys punching the bad guys until they can't fight back. And I often wondered how not-invulnerable heroes, like Ororo or Cyclops, were still alive, considering that you just need a bullet to kill them.
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Post by beccabear67 on Oct 6, 2018 15:47:45 GMT -5
Read Superboy & The Legion #211 and 212... I'd forgotten they had two stories each in them at this time. I'd had #211 before. Three stories by Jim Shooter and one by Cary Bates, all with Mike Grell art. Both had provocative cover situations making you want to read what happens... does Element Lad kill someone?... do a group of rejects beat up Legionnaires demanding to take their places? Everything ends up unchanged at the end, which is fine with me. I did notice a flashback to an old Adventure Comics where Star Boy was in exile punishment for causing a death accidentally. That was nice as I had that issue and remember his old costume. Grell was lavishing more attention on his own Warlord comic at this same time but there are some nice art moments here and there, seems he was inking everything himself too at this stage but I'm sure that will change in the later issues. I think he was the regular artist on the revived Green Lantern/Green Arrow around then too, but then again, these are eight times a year titles.
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Post by String on Feb 8, 2019 22:02:42 GMT -5
Wow, totally shocked and thrilled when I came across this listing on Amazon: in July of this year, DC seems set to release Legion of Superheroes: Five Years Later Vol 1 which will apparently collect #1-12 and Annual #1 of Giffen's masterpiece (depending on your point of view)
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 10, 2019 15:04:15 GMT -5
The series was revolutionary back in the 90's and ahead of its time.
Word has gotten around and I think there's a lot of curiosity with newer readers to see what all the fuss was about.
I think it'll do ok.
If Marvel can collect and sell Spidey's Clone Saga then DC should be able to sell this; besides, it was great.
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Post by brutalis on Feb 20, 2019 8:09:24 GMT -5
The 5 Year Later Legion was quite good. It put aside the more traditional super-hero aspects and took the Legion more into the realms of science-fiction/fantasy. This of course upset most of the regular readers of the LOSH who preferred the capes and club scenario but I enjoyed it very much. Good on DC collecting this run as there is room for all of the myriad LOSH versions. Something for everyone!
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 20, 2019 12:26:29 GMT -5
I can't believe DC doesn't put half the energy into LSH that they do the Titans.
I think what has hamstrung DC is the 1,000 years in the future thing.
The Legion is a great concept and I think one way you could add a twist to the title is the constant state of flux what with their past, our current time, disrupting them because of events always changing here. That could be cool but maybe too drastic. They could link it to the Time Trapper constantly coming back and forth between the two and since starting his time journeys, it's caused an anomaly or rut between the two times that's jacked things up.
LSH was one of my favorite franchises back in the day. The 90's were especially great with LSH, Legionnaires and L.E.G.I.O.N.
C'mon DC, get Jonathon Hickman on this, or, Grant Morrison.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:33:09 GMT -5
I can't believe DC doesn't put half the energy into LSH that they do the Titans. I think what has hamstrung DC is the 1,000 years in the future thing. The Legion is a great concept and I think one way you could add a twist to the title is the constant state of flux what with their past, our current time, disrupting them because of events always changing here. That could be cool but maybe too drastic. They could link it to the Time Trapper constantly coming back and forth between the two and since starting his time journeys, it's caused an anomaly or rut between the two times that's jacked things up. LSH was one of my favorite franchises back in the day. The 90's were especially great with LSH, Legionnaires and L.E.G.I.O.N. C'mon DC, get Jonathon Hickman on this, or, Grant Morrison. I'm 100% behind you ... Hickman, would be my 1st choice, then Morrison.
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Post by brutalis on Feb 20, 2019 13:23:36 GMT -5
I can't believe DC doesn't put half the energy into LSH that they do the Titans. I think what has hamstrung DC is the 1,000 years in the future thing. The Legion is a great concept and I think one way you could add a twist to the title is the constant state of flux what with their past, our current time, disrupting them because of events always changing here. That could be cool but maybe too drastic. They could link it to the Time Trapper constantly coming back and forth between the two and since starting his time journeys, it's caused an anomaly or rut between the two times that's jacked things up. LSH was one of my favorite franchises back in the day. The 90's were especially great with LSH, Legionnaires and L.E.G.I.O.N. C'mon DC, get Jonathon Hickman on this, or, Grant Morrison. What has really hurt the Legion is DC's incessant need to "CONNECT" everything to whatever is current in the DCU. The Legion is 1000 years in the future and could and should exist on it's own without having it interact and constantly referencing past history. We want to explore the future, the unknown worlds, the new alien cultures in "CONTEXT" to current times without all the baggage. Look ahead DC and stop looking backwards...
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Post by MDG on Feb 21, 2019 11:01:18 GMT -5
What has really hurt the Legion is DC's incessant need to "CONNECT" everything to whatever is current in the DCU. .... Look ahead DC and stop looking backwards... Is this DC's fault or is it responding to the fact that fans will insist that everything "makes sense"?
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Post by rberman on Mar 22, 2019 21:23:22 GMT -5
So... recognizing that this thread is here and is 30 pages long... would people rather see a story-by-story review thread of Silver Age LSH from the beginning, or a thread covering the Mark Waid era in the mid 00s?
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 22, 2019 23:42:19 GMT -5
So... recognizing that this thread is here and is 30 pages long... would people rather see a story-by-story review thread of Silver Age LSH from the beginning, or a thread covering the Mark Waid era in the mid 00s? Well, my personal interest is the Cockrum and Grell years, on up through Levitz & Giffen; but, that's when I discovered it and read it. The Silver Age had great stories, though I prefer the later art, as much as I like Swan on Superman. The Legion was better with more dynamic art. Besides, I prefer the funkier costumes. I mean, come on; Cosmic Boy in a corset or Cos in his pink George Jetson outfit?
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Post by hondobrode on Mar 23, 2019 0:09:06 GMT -5
The Mark Waid analysis would be more to my liking.
I'm a Legion fan, but for me everything pre-Great Darkness was just pretty much ok, but from that demarcation point on, it's been much more interesting IMHO.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 23, 2019 9:28:35 GMT -5
So... recognizing that this thread is here and is 30 pages long... would people rather see a story-by-story review thread of Silver Age LSH from the beginning, or a thread covering the Mark Waid era in the mid 00s? I'd much rather see the Silver Age review thread.
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