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Post by Farrar on Nov 25, 2015 12:54:04 GMT -5
I remember reading an interview with Cockrum years ago (in "Back Issue" most likely), where he mentions the "markings" on Violet's costume that he designed, are actually a stylized lettering that spells out her code name. but I've never been able to figure that one out.  IIRC that was mentioned in an interview with Cockrum and Grell, in Back Issue as you said. Grell remarked that he eventually realized that the "black squiggles" in Vi's bodice (the "squiggles" atop the cleavage area, in other words) were were supposed to be an S and a V, and Cockrum had confirmed that was indeed the original design/intention. I've never really seen that in any Vi images by either artist, though. Hmmm, maybe the v-neck is meant to be the "V."  And in the first pic here it almost looks like there is an "S" squiggle near the cuff on one forearm. Anyway, it's a sleek and striking costume and I love how Vi looks in this shade of green. This color obviously provides continuity with her former look (though it's a darker green) and it looks beautiful with her black hair and black tights/accents...but I'm surprised no one thought to give her a, you know, violet (purplish) costume...perhaps a color like Cockrum's Polaris costume.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 15:29:51 GMT -5
I remember reading an interview with Cockrum years ago (in "Back Issue" most likely), where he mentions the "markings" on Violet's costume that he designed, are actually a stylized lettering that spells out her code name. but I've never been able to figure that one out. IIRC that was mentioned in an interview with Cockrum and Grell, in Back Issue as you said. Grell remarked that he eventually realized that the "black squiggles" in Vi's bodice (the "squiggles" atop the cleavage area, in other words) were were supposed to be an S and a V, and Cockrum had confirmed that was indeed the original design/intention. I've never really seen that in any Vi images by either artist, though. Hmmm, maybe the v-neck is meant to be the "V." And in the first pic here it almost looks like there is an "S" squiggle near the cuff on one forearm. Anyway, it's a sleek and striking costume and I love how Vi looks in this shade of green. This color obviously provides continuity with her former look (though it's a darker green) and it looks beautiful with her black hair and black tights/accents...but I'm surprised no one thought to give her a, you know, violet (purplish) costume...perhaps a color like Cockrum's Polaris costume. they did. . in "Legionnaires"  |
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Post by Action Ace on Nov 25, 2015 15:30:58 GMT -5
It's the style of what he was drawing (mullets, thong outfits that make no sense, crazy facial expressions), not so much the artist's art itself, I think. It's what we demanded back then, or what comics creators thought we demanded (or what they wanted us to demand). Yes, but "we" does not include me, since I happily skipped the 90's in terms of comics. Well, it's still better than the LOSH leather jacket phase.  The early issues on Legionnaires were done by Chris Sprouse and the art was outstanding. |
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 25, 2015 16:05:12 GMT -5
My memory is being unusually uncooperative on this, but I'm pretty sure this is the first Legion comic I picked up after "officially" starting to collect comics:
I did have one issue earlier that was lost to the sands of time, but I've since replaced:
Along with another sadly lost bit of Legion lore that became one of my holy grails. I was finally able to replace it at a reasonable price a few months ago. It regularly goes for at least $50, often over $100, but I managed to get it in pretty good shape for under $10:
So it's safe to say I've been a fan for a long time. I finally gave up during the "shove it grandpa" reboot, but I hope we'll get a better (closer to the original) incarnation soon. Totally jealous of that zine ! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 16:29:55 GMT -5
The Comic Book Store that I go to will ship one Archive Book a month starting January 2016 and I should be getting the Complete 13 Volume Set for a low price of $24.00 a month (includes shipping and handling) and I get the 13th book for free. So by end of December 2016 - I should be getting the complete set. More I read this thread - I'm hooked on it and my love for Titans Hunt kind of sparked interest in the Legion of Super Heroes.
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Post by Farrar on Nov 25, 2015 16:52:55 GMT -5
...but I'm surprised no one thought to give her a, you know, violet (purplish) costume...perhaps a color like Cockrum's Polaris costume. they did. . in "Legionnaires" Ah good--thanks. This was in the '90s, right? Well, better late than... EDIT: LOL, just noticed the corsage/boutonnière |
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Post by dbutler69 on Nov 25, 2015 18:04:21 GMT -5
Yes, but "we" does not include me, since I happily skipped the 90's in terms of comics. Well, it's still better than the LOSH leather jacket phase. The early issues on Legionnaires were done by Chris Sprouse and the art was outstanding. My snarky leather jacket comment was referring to Giffen's art (whatever happened to that guy, he used to be good?) in the Five Years Later Legion. Yuck, as far as I am concerned. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 23:30:14 GMT -5
they did. . in "Legionnaires" Ah good--thanks. This was in the '90s, right? Well, better late than... EDIT: LOL, just noticed the corsage/boutonnière yep. . THAT part, I thought was stupid |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Nov 26, 2015 0:31:59 GMT -5
 One of my favourite Legionnaires, by the great Steve Lightle. |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Nov 26, 2015 0:45:20 GMT -5
My favourite storyline  ...and one of my favourite covers  |
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Post by berkley on Nov 26, 2015 2:18:13 GMT -5
One of my favourite Legionnaires, by the great Steve Lightle. Did Lightle change his style over time? I don't know his art that well but this isn't how I picture it. Don't care for the costume change here: the gold insignia is too obtrusive, the hip-boots rarely work for me, and I've always disliked the way they cut the shorts or swim-suits way up over the hips in so many of the modern outfits for the female characters. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 2:40:04 GMT -5
One of my favourite Legionnaires, by the great Steve Lightle. So he basically put her in the Ms. Marvel costume that had been around since the 70s (debuted in Ms. Marvel 20 I think)   -M |
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 26, 2015 14:53:43 GMT -5
So he basically put her in the Ms. Marvel costume that had been around since the 70s (debuted in Ms. Marvel 20 I think) -M Well, Carol wasn't using it after Immortus brain-washed her and seduced her so that he could be reborn as her baby and she stayed with him in Limbo and not one member of the Avengers thought there was anything wrong with it. |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Nov 26, 2015 18:17:16 GMT -5
Hey it was the only cover with her I could find on GCD, and I did see the Warbird likeness too. Doesn't detract from my enjoyment of his style though.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Nov 26, 2015 18:27:45 GMT -5
One of the (many) things I like about the Legion is the depiction of a lot of very strong female characters, not physically per se, but there aren't a lot of wallflowers once you hit the late 70s to early 80s. I loved how the girls would be watching the guys screw up, and collectively roll their eyes. Even dream Girl who became the ultimate vapid clothes horse grew into a shrewd leader. Shady, Phantom Girl, Lightning Lass, and Night Girl quickly became favourites of mine, among others...like Polar Boy, loved the characterisation.
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And in the first pic here it almost looks like there is an "S" squiggle near the cuff on one forearm. 
