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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 11, 2016 22:39:49 GMT -5
1 Billion internationally isn't SO unreasonable. 24 movies have done so (Including the 1st 2 of the Dark Knight Trilogy)... Star Wars just became the 1st non-James Cameron Movie to make 2 Billion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 22:44:14 GMT -5
1 Billion internationally isn't SO unreasonable. 24 movies have done so (Including the 1st 2 of the Dark Knight Trilogy)... Star Wars just became the 1st non-James Cameron Movie to make 2 Billion. How many of those have opened in March which is traditionally a very soft box office time domestically? How many of them have had a lot of pre-release negative reaction on social media and disappointing pre-sales on tickets? Those are the things WB is looking at, not what other movies have done. As the reviewer said, early screenings are happening, people are seeing this now and WB is not getting the reaction they hoped for. -M
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 11, 2016 22:55:23 GMT -5
It's true those were all pretty much summer movies..but if they released during the summer they'd have to compete with Marvel. Looks like Alice in Wonderland (The Johnny Depp one) was the only March release that made a billion.
Pre-Sales on tickets are a relatively new thing.. I'm not sure how much of an indicator that is. I think the negative press is probably the biggest thing, especially with people already wary of hype after Fantastic Four. Perhaps they'll shift a little more towards the light side of things if it doesn't meet expectations.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 0:21:46 GMT -5
It's true those were all pretty much summer movies..but if they released during the summer they'd have to compete with Marvel. Looks like Alice in Wonderland (The Johnny Depp one) was the only March release that made a billion. Pre-Sales on tickets are a relatively new thing.. I'm not sure how much of an indicator that is. I think the negative press is probably the biggest thing, especially with people already wary of hype after Fantastic Four. Perhaps they'll shift a little more towards the light side of things if it doesn't meet expectations. What's being said (no idea how accurate) is that Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman will get released as planned as SS is done and WW is filming. Everything else would be taken off the table or pushed back and an Affleck solo Batman movie would be put in the first window of opportunity, and that Zach Snyder would be on the outs and new blood brought in. The other scuttlebutt is that WB thinks they might need their own Kevin Feige in place to give the line a distinct direction and vision. It wouldn't be someone already involved but someone who would helm their salt eof movies moving forward rather than taking each one individually and hoping for cohesion as has been the case. Again, rumors, grain of salt, etc. However, my take is if they get Goyer and Snyder the hell away from their slate of films,they can't help but be better. -M
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 13, 2016 16:47:20 GMT -5
Final trailer hit this morning and the Batman action sequences in it are the best thing I've seen related to this movie. However, there's starting to be scuttlebutt now that Warner's is worried how this movie is going to perform and if it doesn't meet expectations (they are hoping it pulls in a billion, yes a billion) it might jeopardize the slate of DC movies that haven't started filming yet, including the Justice League movie. review of trailer/rumors of WB concerns-M Those Batman scenes were pretty awesome, makes me want to see Aflek in a solo movie. I don't know what kind of Superman movie this will be but it looks like a decent Batman movie so I'm cool with that.
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Post by Action Ace on Feb 14, 2016 15:54:02 GMT -5
DC knew it wasn't going to get the comic book gold medal this year against Civil War, since Warner Brothers tucked tail and ran from it with Batman vs. Superman. Now comes the spectre that DC's two most famous heroes may not even be able to draw as well as Deadpool. They seem to be trying to reposition this as a Batman with guest stars movie to try to save it. I get the feeling that the cool factor of this film is going to rest entirely on how decisively Batman beats Superman. I don't think the general public wants to see a draw or a cop out and anything less than Batman standing over a beaten Superman will not suffice. Sadly, Superman's most popular future seems to be the one he's been relegated to in things like this movie or the Injustice: Gods Among Us video game: a Batman villain. DC's cinematic future may very well mirror it's comic book future, Batman and friends/villains and not much else.
At least there's some hope on tv for the next couple of years.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 14, 2016 19:55:30 GMT -5
DC knew it wasn't going to get the comic book gold medal this year against Civil War, since Warner Brothers tucked tail and ran from it with Batman vs. Superman. Now comes the spectre that DC's two most famous heroes may not even be able to draw as well as Deadpool. They seem to be trying to reposition this as a Batman with guest stars movie to try to save it. I get the feeling that the cool factor of this film is going to rest entirely on how decisively Batman beats Superman. I don't think the general public wants to see a draw or a cop out and anything less than Batman standing over a beaten Superman will not suffice. Sadly, Superman's most popular future seems to be the one he's been relegated to in things like this movie or the Injustice: Gods Among Us video game: a Batman villain. DC's cinematic future may very well mirror it's comic book future, Batman and friends/villains and not much else. At least there's some hope on tv for the next couple of years. Eh, I doubt that'll happen. From everything we've seen from the trailers it looks like they'll duke it out for a bit before being interrupted by Doomsday which causes them to form a tenuous alliance and then Wonder Woman shows up too.
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 16, 2016 11:49:41 GMT -5
I get the feeling that the cool factor of this film is going to rest entirely on how decisively Batman beats Superman. *throwing up in my mouth a bit*
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Post by Gene on Feb 24, 2016 9:07:30 GMT -5
And now Warner Bros has announced an R rated Ultimate Edition Blu Ray release. Is it too late to bring back George Miller?
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Post by Warmonger on Feb 24, 2016 10:18:37 GMT -5
And now Warner Bros has announced an R rated Ultimate Edition Blu Ray release. Is it too late to bring back George Miller? LOL Really is sad that DC keeps putting their movie adaptations into the hands of talentless hacks like Zack Snyder.
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Post by Gene on Feb 24, 2016 10:37:09 GMT -5
And now Warner Bros has announced an R rated Ultimate Edition Blu Ray release. Is it too late to bring back George Miller? LOL Really is sad that DC keeps putting their movie adaptations into the hands of talentless hacks like Zack Snyder. You just don't understand his vision. Audiences today want a sneering, red eyed Superman who makes vague death threats to other superheroes. Anyone who thinks differently needs to get with the times.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 11:13:08 GMT -5
LOL Really is sad that DC keeps putting their movie adaptations into the hands of talentless hacks like Zack Snyder. You just don't understand his vision. Audiences today want a sneering, red eyed Superman who makes vague death threats to other superheroes. Anyone who thinks differently needs to get with the times. Or according to Snyder's partner in crime David Goyer, get out of their parent's basement and get a life, because anyone who knows who the Martian Manhunter is can't possibly understand a true artist's vision for these characters because they're too busy ogling pictures of She-Hulk. Said comments by Goyer being a prime reason (though not only reason) no project he's involved in will get another nickel of my money. If you are embarrassed by the source material, or to be working on a comic book project to the point you feel you have to legitimize it to be respected for your work, then don't take on the project, do something else you have a passion for. -M
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Post by Warmonger on Feb 24, 2016 20:54:25 GMT -5
You just don't understand his vision. Audiences today want a sneering, red eyed Superman who makes vague death threats to other superheroes. Anyone who thinks differently needs to get with the times. Or according to Snyder's partner in crime David Goyer, get out of their parent's basement and get a life, because anyone who knows who the Martian Manhunter is can't possibly understand a true artist's vision for these characters because they're too busy ogling pictures of She-Hulk. Said comments by Goyer being a prime reason (though not only reason) no project he's involved in will get another nickel of my money. If you are embarrassed by the source material, or to be working on a comic book project to the point you feel you have to legitimize it to be respected for your work, then don't take on the project, do something else you have a passion for. -M I honestly don't know that the hell makes DC and Warner Bros come running back to these two. When has Zack Snyder ever been associated with box office gold? And hasn't Goyer mostly been attached to video games and made for TV movies? A movie with a $150+ million budget showcasing the 3 most popular characters in the history of the DC universe...and this is the "dynamic duo" who they put in charge of it? And I'm sorry, but Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor has to be the biggest miscast in recent memory. I just can't get over that one.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Feb 25, 2016 21:10:34 GMT -5
Or according to Snyder's partner in crime David Goyer, get out of their parent's basement and get a life, because anyone who knows who the Martian Manhunter is can't possibly understand a true artist's vision for these characters because they're too busy ogling pictures of She-Hulk. Said comments by Goyer being a prime reason (though not only reason) no project he's involved in will get another nickel of my money. If you are embarrassed by the source material, or to be working on a comic book project to the point you feel you have to legitimize it to be respected for your work, then don't take on the project, do something else you have a passion for. -M I honestly don't know that the hell makes DC and Warner Bros come running back to these two. When has Zack Snyder ever been associated with box office gold? And hasn't Goyer mostly been attached to video games and made for TV movies? A movie with a $150+ million budget showcasing the 3 most popular characters in the history of the DC universe...and this is the "dynamic duo" who they put in charge of it? And I'm sorry, but Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor has to be the biggest miscast in recent memory. I just can't get over that one. Are you for real? Goyer wrote Dark City, the first 2 Blade Movies and all three Nolan Batman movies... Snyder had "300" make 500 million dollars with charachters no one knew outside a few comic geeks (budget 65 million $), and Man of Steel grossed over 700 million dollars, for a character that everyone thought was dead to the silver screen (for a budget of 200+ million dollars). Eisenberg stared in 8 movies that grossed over 200 million dollars and he has a wide appeal amongst certain demographics that the new film targets. And the idea that Goyer despises superhero comic books is really strange since he wrote over 50 issues of JSA amongst other titles. I really still fail to get it why comic book movies should be a transcript of the old comics. What's the point? The comics exist, I don't want to see the same stuff on screen, I find it self indulging and lazy. I'm really glad that DC isn't trying to copy Marvel since A/I think that appart from hte first Iron Man and Cap movies, all the other ones are horrible and pointless B/ If all those movies had the same tone, we'd tire of those much quicker if not already C/ Even if 300 is one of my most despised movies, Snyder has some technical skills and a strong personnality, a philosophy I don't share (some kind of right wing anarchism obsessed with the tragedy of humankind and war), but I'll take a personnal vision every day instead of the human focus group that Whedon and co are.
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Post by Action Ace on Mar 5, 2016 17:56:16 GMT -5
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